Pick Your Power: Double Deck (GAME OVER)

[gigabyteTroubadour]

hello all

Merry Christmas all

Can someone be a dear and help me where we are heading in this game. Can I skip the 155 pages and pick up the game from here.

Guys I am beloved and hated with that spade up. I haven't finished reading but I did complete an ISO of Vedith I read through and realized Vedith claimed cards. Won't have time today because of holidays. Can someone give me the 411?

Yes, I started to prepare a post with claims, quick wagon summaries, and people I'd like to claim but didn't get to finish it.

ok something doesn't add up here

i went back and took a look at my reads and i have way too many townreads, i had to even throw away some to make a scumteam that works in numbers (but not dynamics). gonna try to start from scratch here :/

@Uzi, who do you think is scum with Maria?

Leaning towards Kison, Milkshake, Titus, and McMemmo/Spy

I still think there is a small chance of Transcend since I pointed out that rb might have cleared Gerry as opposed to him.

first can you point out where rb may have cleared gerry as opposed to transcend?

Also, can you explain why you would think Kison/Titus is scumteam dynamic? I get why Titus would be on the list but Kison as a Maria partner also makes zero sense to me, why does it look like a bus?

Mostly because this reads to me like you just listed other popular scumreads (and Titus, who would have been a lynch candidate today from at least 1 faction from the game) without really trying to think they make sense as Maria partners.

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

^ also this is the wagon I'd like for today, mostly for that post being something i'd expect from a Maria partner

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While I felt Titus was obvious town (or at least an obvious townbeard), I think her being vigged is ultimately helpful because the other King of Diamonds now can hide and doesn't have to worry about being a lover (although the PT may have been useful).

My personal request to the card revivers is to give me the Ace of Hearts and someone you trust that isn't me the 2 of Diamonds (although i really want diamond neighborhood access zzzzz), although I can understand why you may not trust me until Hearts are in trumps and thus not listen to me. A more general request is that pro-town cards should go to any one of {Giga, Drealmerz, Fishy} and maybe -Grey- (kraska was obvious town but you may not want to put some cards in the hands of someone who just replaced in, use your judgement). I absolutely

do not

want the King of Diamonds, the reason I want PT access is to give out inside information I may have in the case that I die due to being confirmed town which is rendered useless by the King of Diamonds.

If you give anyone a cop, note that we have more claims/flips of Jacks, so the Queen cop is theoretically better to give out but I don't think you're allowed to given it's a spade.

I also should clarify that my investigation result from yesterday was misread, there were 13 diamonds in the deck at the start of the game/at the time of my inventory.

Also merry Christmas everyone <3

[drealmerz7]

yup

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

if you want more to my reason than "I think it very likely he's scum", it'll have to wait, I have other priorities atm...

[Maxous]

Anybody with the 7 of Hearts should just claim it ASAP.

Tia

[gigabyteTroubadour]

The Skinny

Claims

• Vedith (now Mathblade) claimed to have the Jack of Clubs, 8 of Spades, and 2 of Spades at L-1.
  
  
  
• Transcend claimed to rig the deck with the Ace of Clubs, meaning he has the Ace of Clubs and Jack of Spades. He also claimed to be a member of the Clubs Neighborhood (which I can verify), so he has the 8, 9, or 10 of clubs.
  
  
  
• Transcend is presumably the innocent result of rb's sole investigation. Look through rb's ISO and voice any disagreement you have though.
  
  
  
• gigabyteTrouabdour claimed to have the 2 of hearts (Innocent Child) and 3 of clubs. McMenno claimed to be neighbors with them in the Clubs Neighborhood, which they verified. This means their remaining card is an 8, 9, or 10 of clubs.
  
  
  
• Vecna claimed fruit vendor and vended fruit to Gerry, which has been verified by Gerry.
  
  
  
• McMenno claimed to be a member of the Clubs Neighborhood, and so has an 8, 9, or 10 of clubs.
  
  
  
• The deck started out with 13 diamond cards, so 13 diamond cards are in the hands of players and 13 are in the deck (now 12). (This is the result of giga's N2 inventory)

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Wagons

• Major D1 wagons include LUV (major pushers being Titus, Fishy, and Kison. Strong opposition mostly came from rb), Transcend (pushed by Kraska/-Grey-), and Vedith (pushed by rb). Drone was a lolcompromise wagon that got hammered way too quickly.
  
  
  
• Major D2 wagons include Transcend (which was stopped because of rb's presumable inno on him), LUV, and Jackel (pushed by kraska/-grey-, main reason being that he was a scumread player with a vengeful, and any kill at that stage of the game would provide information. he flipped town and presumably attempted to kill Maria, but she could have been protected by a scum white mage).
  
  
  
• D3 was basically just the Maria wagon.
  
  
  Anyone is welcome to provide more on the specific cases, but I figured ISOs can speak for themselves once you point out the major wagons.

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General Announcements

• IF YOU RECEIVED FRUIT AT ANY POINT,
  please claim when!! Knowledge of what fruit vendors are in play will help me figure out what diamond cards are in the deck and better plan out night actions once the next 2 inventories necessary are completed.
  
  
  
• IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO INVENTORY,
  please select either
  SPADES
  or
  HEARTS
  . I already have the most information on Clubs, so one of the other two suites will be more helpful to me. Crumb your result if you have no way of communicating with me more privately. Inventorying for specific cards isn't going to be helpful until we figure out all of the suites.
  
  
  
• I want to know how many people are in the diamonds hood, but I don't know the safest way to do so without outing anyone there. Giving me the 2 of diamonds is a waste since that card is specifically designed to doctor me, but otherwise that would have been pretty convenient.

Anybody with the 7 of Hearts should just claim it ASAP.

Tia

Why, to make sure that no one revives the same card at once? We know there's two of them already so I guess that's valid.

They should also claim how many people are in that hood btw.

[Maxous]

So we can publicly plan and discuss what card we're gonna revive and what we're gonna do with it.
Probably the best option is using transcend to put a vig card on for tonight.
We know grey has a vig

[McMenno]

I want to know how many people are in the diamonds hood, but I don't know the safest way to do so without outing anyone there. Giving me the 2 of diamonds is a waste since that card is specifically designed to doctor me, but otherwise that would have been pretty convenient.

three. there are three people in the diamonds hood. what a hoot

[Maxous]

Additionally the 10 cards also have a cop power.
So we deffo want to put a 10 on top for the next night.
If we have a second card revive we can give a card to Giga

[Titus]

Baaaaaaaaah. I liked my king of diamonds. I got to pick my husband.

Bye.

[Transcend]

1. Merry Christmas

2. Protip: when someone defends mafia, that doesn't mean they're mafia as well. MariaR is a good scum and both Titus and myself failed to read her correctly.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

In that case, we should revive a 9 of diamonds to put on the top of the deck.

9 of diamonds would give us beta vigs, and also at least 1 other inventory and 2 card-cop results in the clubs neighborhood. I also have a relatively safe way of directing specific people in that hood who to investigate without outing them, too. The only issue I can see is that a second 9 of diamonds should be revived because we're ensured no doctors, which might be an issue.

Additionally the 10 cards also have a cop power.
So we deffo want to put a 10 on top for the next night.
If we have a second card revive we can give a card to Giga

I mean that works too, but there's the same issue of not having doctors.

I want to know how many people are in the diamonds hood, but I don't know the safest way to do so without outing anyone there. Giving me the 2 of diamonds is a waste since that card is specifically designed to doctor me, but otherwise that would have been pretty convenient.

three. there are three people in the diamonds hood. what a hoot

that's uh

actually very informative

thank you

[gigabyteTroubadour]

do you mean 3 counting rb btw

[McMenno]

no

[McMenno]

one tends to move out after one dies

[gigabyteTroubadour]

that actually changes everything goddamn it

[gigabyteTroubadour]

The only issue I can see is that a second 9 of diamonds should be revived because we're ensured no doctors, which might be an issue.

laughing at the unintentional redundancy here btw

and since we don't have doctors when 10s are in trumps i'm even more in favor or 9s but I still don't think it's my first choice

i'd actually like vecna's input here

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Also, -Grey-, who was Kraska set to kill before you replaced in, or were you not told/did she not input anyone?

[Dunnstral]

know what time it is

indeed

VOTE: dunnstral

no

[gigabyteTroubadour]

oh fuck i missed fishy's claim lmfao

[Dunnstral]

Anybody with the 7 of Hearts should just claim it ASAP.

Tia

I've got it.

[Dunnstral]

Don't see the usefulness in ace of hearts sorry

[Dunnstral]

Should I give a 2 card to a card rigger?

[Dunnstral]

Maybe I should make giga bulletproof

[Dunnstral]

that actually changes everything goddamn it

how so

[gigabyteTroubadour]

neighborhood with conftown...?

it's not my first choice any more but once i figure out the deck's contents then i do need someone trustworthy to tell it to

also dunn i'm already BP during clubs

[gigabyteTroubadour]

that actually changes everything goddamn it

how so

thought menno knew the 2 of diamonds for sure, plus it strongly hints at who is in the hood (in terms of cards not people)