'The Lost Boys' Mafia (Cry Little Sister, it's OVER!)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

My list is only CL based.

[Setael]

Cicero, by saying you're not actually pursuing a Pooky case, what I mean is while stating you're not trying to distract from the Pooky case, all this stuff with Ecto feels like you're just trying to distract from the Pooky case.

[cicero]

Cicero, by saying you're not actually pursuing a Pooky case, what I mean is while stating you're not trying to distract from the Pooky case, all this stuff with Ecto feels like you're just trying to distract from the Pooky case.

Setael: Because Ectomancer acted like an ass, what should have been a simple set of due diligence questions turned into a "thing". Fearing that it might be distracting from Pooky or that it might be seen as distracting from Pooky I specifically, in bold print, reminded people not to get distracted from investigating Pooky. I also specifically challenged him on repeated occassions to give us a list of suspects, to be more explanatory with respect to why he had listed those on his list of suspects, and pointed out his possible (probable?) slip with respect to "knowing" the vampires recruited last night when this had not been the previously accepted supposition. I, in fact, had pressed Pooky exactly seven minutes before in the post immediately above the post in which you accused me of not pressing Pooky.

So your post on the subject was a clear misrepresentation. The only question for the town is whether your misrepresentation was careless or deliberate.

[cicero]

B) I'm sorry I'm assuming things that just make sense in terms of balance, I've been thinking quite a bit more about the game setup than most have and I've had quite a bit of time to think about it. I'm looking at this from a pure strategy viewpoint, balance-wise it doesn't make any sense for the CL to refrain from recruiting ecto which is why I'd imagine he would nor would it make sense for the Curfew to affect the Cult but not the Cop. I'm sure of these things just as I was sure of the existence of a Cult on Day 2, basically I am operating from one premise, "the setup must make sense given what we are working with"

Your ideas about setup don't explicitly seem to take into account the fact that, if we believe Mariyta, Ectomancer would be a half recruit with the choice not to join. Doesn't that create a disincentive for the recruiter? How do you respond?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Does a setup where we're up against a single cult that has no ability to get rid of Cops make any sense to you?

[cicero]

No idea. I have two completed games. None with cults. Explain it to me like I'm a three year old. Please incorporate all the information we currently have on the suspect and how it affects your suspect list. What conclusions does it give you with respect to our two claimed "cop-like" players.

[cicero]

ebwop: "currently have on the

suspect

game/

."

[Mr. Flay]

Fifth Vote Count of Day Four:

(same as the last count, actually)

PookyTheMagicalBear - 3 (Setael, Dasquian, Mariyta)

Yosarian2 - 1 (Crub)
Mariyta - 1 (Battle Mage)
Ectomancer - 1 (cicero)

Not Voting - 10 (PookyTheMagicalBear, AniX, -TinVision-, Sudo_Nym, HackerHuck, Ectomancer, Arafax, Yosarian2, Sir.Laggalot, Mastermind of Sin)

It is now Day Four; with sixteen left, nine votes will be needed to lynch.

[Ectomancer]

Does a setup where we're up against a single cult that has no ability to get rid of Cops make any sense to you?

What exactly is preventing the Cult from killing the Cops? Are you assuming that because Mariyta was given a choice, and killing was the method of acceptance, that no other Cult member/recruit would be able to kill at night?

[cicero]

Re: Ecto's game and his mafia roleblocker story. I searched and found it. He wasn't lying.

[Battle Mage]

Does a setup where we're up against a single cult that has no ability to get rid of Cops make any sense to you?

why are you not voting for Mariyta?

[Ectomancer]

Re: Ecto's game and his mafia roleblocker story. I searched and found it. He wasn't lying.

I retract any previous statements about laziness.

[Yosarian2]

I swear people don't read sometimes. Did you miss it when I just explained to Cicero why I was giving him a hard time? Rather silly to come along right after an explanation and tell someone you hope they have one...

Um...you said you asked me because you wanted to see how I would respond, fine. But you never really explained why you thought making Cicero play guessing games with your role breadcrumbs or whatever would be a useful thing to do, or if you did I must have not understood your explination.

[cicero]

Hey there is a hotel in Lost Boys after all! It's a sunken one destroyed in an earthquake

where the the Cult of Vampires hangs out.

Thanks Ecto!

[cicero]

51 EXT. BLUFF FROM THE OCEAN'S POV 51

A beautiful magic spot. David, Michael, Star and the
others climb down old condemned wooden stairs, passing
huge signs on old rusted pilings reading: "CONDEMNED,"
"UNSAFE," "UNLAWFUL TO GO PAST THIS POINT." The group
presses on toward a LARGE OPENING IN THE ROCKS.

52 INT. CAVE 52

The group enters and Michael can't believe his eyes.

A VICTORIAN HOTEL LOBBY

has seemingly dropped through a crack in the earth. It
is tilted and broken, but nearly intact: Front desk,
lobby mural; wrought-iron elevator, and more.

Shafts of moonlight shoot down from cracks in the ceiling.

DAVID
This was the hottest resort in Santa
Carla back about eighty years ago.
Too bad they built it right on top
of the San Adreas fault.
(beat)
In 1906, when the big one hit San
Francisco, the ground opened up and
this place took a header into the
crack.

PAUL
Man, you wouldn't believe the cool
stuff we've found in here.

[Ectomancer]

Hey there is a hotel in Lost Boys after all! It's a sunken one destroyed in an earthquake

where the the Cult of Vampires hangs out.

Thanks Ecto!

Right you are, not the one I'm staying at though. This one has people that escort you back inside when you try to break curfew.

[cicero]

You had time to post that and yet ignore Yosarian. Gotcha.

[Ectomancer]

You had time to post that and yet ignore Yosarian. Gotcha.

He made a statement and he was right. He must not have understood what I said. I'm not of the mind to go into another explanation without understanding what it is that he is not understanding. If he needs a one word explanation, he can have "baiting".

[cicero]

You could have responded to Yos with "what didnt you understand" but needed me to point out that you ignored him first. You don't like when people ask you questions. Not one bit.

[Crub]

*looks over horse*
Nope. Still Dead.

[cicero]

*looks over horse*
Nope. Still Dead.

There may be a world in which I care what Crub thinks. It is not this one.

You've contributed precious little in this game. Virtually no scumhunting. Please by all means keep it up so you really arent one to talk about it.

But you are currently shielded by Ectomancer's cop claim so I can certainly understand your loyalties to your master. You literally probably owe Ecto your life at this point. I'd be loyal to him too.

[Crub]

Ask yourself this question? How is what I'm doing helping the town? If you get the answer "well actually it's distracting town from what we should be doing right now" then maybe you should stop what you're doing.

I'm sure everyone in the back of their minds is aware that ecto's claim is not verified and definitely does not clear him. That doesn't mean we should try and push him for flavour information when it is only advantageous to the cult at this point to get his flavour.

Think about it. Even if ecto did flavour claim, I don't think there's going to be anything he can say to convince me that he's scum (at least today).

[Ectomancer]

Pooky...distracting...thought you weren't doing that...

Yes, I pretty much answer or ignore what I feel like. You can vote me if you don't like the habit, but it wont change it, nor indicate my alignment. Much like many of the players here and their playstyles. If you don't believe me, try voting Anix to see if you can get a post before the 11th hour (whenever he decided that moment to be).

[cicero]

That's cool. It's my playstyle to pester people who play like that as needed.

As for Pooky, I'm POSITIVE the town can hold two thoughts in their heads at once. Especially since I keep alternating questions.

Once again though I note your inference. Questioning Ectomancer = accusation of scummy motive. Not questioning ectomancer = ectomancer pretty much leaves you alone. Noted.

[Mastermind of Sin]

You had time to post that and yet ignore Yosarian. Gotcha.

He made a statement and he was right. He must not have understood what I said. I'm not of the mind to go into another explanation without understanding what it is that he is not understanding. If he needs a one word explanation, he can have "baiting".

Please quote and point out your explanation so that Yosarian can show you what he doesn't understand. He doesn't think you explained it, so if he didn't understand it, he'd have a hard time pointing out which post contained the explanation so that you would know what he didn't understand. Seriously, Ecto, at least

try

to be helpful. This is unlike you.