Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

[Skullduggery]

Day 6, Vote Count #20

Current Vote Count:

(0)

SirCakez

(0)

Giovanni il Pellegrino

(2)

MathBlade -- BigYoshiFan, JaeReed

(3)

PeregrineV -- Nahdia, Not Chara, MathBlade

(0)

Nahdia

(0)

Accountant

(0)

Not Chara

(0)

Ankamius

(2)

BigYoshiFan -- Creeps20, Accountant

(0)

Narna

(1)

Almost50 -- Narna

(0)

JaeReed

(0)

Creeps20

Not Voting:

PeregrineV, Ankamius, Giovanni il Pellegrino, Almost50, SirCakez

With 13 votes available, it takes 7 votes to hammer.

Creeps20 is V/LA until 1/2.

Day 6 Will End on Monday, December 26th, at 9 p.m. Eastern Time
Countdown: (expired on 2016-12-26 21:00:00)

[Almost50]

Gio already checked Narna didn't he? Are we reconfirming Narna then?

Either/or. Narna checks Gio , Gio checks Math works for me. Narna checks Math, Gio reconfirms Narna is not optimal but still works for me. Either way we get confirmation on MATH for starters. We also get a result on you and/or the person who checks Math.

[MathBlade]

Works for me as well.

[Almost50]

Everyone seems to think I am dancing when I am not.

Slevin: Listen, I've been hearing that a lot lately...

The Rabbi: [interrupting] My father used to say: "The first time someone calls you a horse you punch him on the nose, the second time someone calls you a horse you call him a jerk but the third time someone calls you a horse, well then perhaps it's time to go shopping for a saddle."

[MathBlade]

Yes for that someone because they are the horse because they can't tell what a human is. Why are you telling me what I already know? In a weird story form?

[BigYoshiFan]

Did my claim to be an infinite-voter seem logical to you too?

It is bastard. As long as it isn't something like 2 role PMs it gets taken at face value and then analyzed for inconsistencies.

Then why would I ever bother making cases when I could just lynch them? Why am I arguing over this? Your self-proclaimed logical abilities are shit when you compare it to how you reacted to my infinite-voter claim.
And how can you play like the way you are if bastard means that roles like an infinite-voter are possible?

[JaeReed]

...Explain why I have only lost two scum games in 3 years on MS?

It's because you're so damn illogical as town that people give you free passes as scum.

[Not Chara]

i found the opposite in Shadowrun, Jaereed. then again, you were in the game for longer.

[MathBlade]

Did my claim to be an infinite-voter seem logical to you too?

It is bastard. As long as it isn't something like 2 role PMs it gets taken at face value and then analyzed for inconsistencies.

Then why would I ever bother making cases when I could just lynch them? Why am I arguing over this? Your self-proclaimed logical abilities are shit when you compare it to how you reacted to my infinite-voter claim.
And how can you play like the way you are if bastard means that roles like an infinite-voter are possible?

Bastard doesn't mean "anything goes". It means you listen and then analyze like I said. I listened and then had to immediately react in case I was dead. Once Skull posted a vote count it became clear you were full of shit.

Some people like Ank don't bother with cases. It infuriates me. Some people don't play mafia for cases. Some people are logical players like me who use mechanics. Some are more "tone". The "tone" players do adopt the fuck cases just lynch player approach and it drives me insane because I am three steps back and can never tell when they are lying because they don't explain and ergo I don't trust them.

[Almost50]

Because if Gio is town they have to because if Narna is town it innocent Child's Gio. Gio is the starting point not Narna. Narna's alignment confirms Gio's. (

Well assuming no mass event N5

)

And we KNOW there has been NO MASS EVENT on N5. Right?

It's not like a certain player claimed a mass event on N5, is it?

[MathBlade]

Did my claim to be an infinite-voter seem logical to you too?

It is bastard. As long as it isn't something like 2 role PMs it gets taken at face value and then analyzed for inconsistencies.

Then why would I ever bother making cases when I could just lynch them? Why am I arguing over this? Your self-proclaimed logical abilities are shit when you compare it to how you reacted to my infinite-voter claim.
And how can you play like the way you are if bastard means that roles like an infinite-voter are possible?

I am also one of the most literal people here. I am still learning each player's sarcastic. It is why I hate RVS that fake claims mason and shit like that. By the time I figure out the sarcasm I am 100 posts back.

[MathBlade]

...Explain why I have only lost two scum games in 3 years on MS?

It's because you're so damn illogical as town that people give you free passes as scum.

This is incorrect. Explain my sig. look at 1800 look at my first scum game. None of those were "free illogical passes". In Shadowrun I planned out nearly everyone's actions. Seriously stawp.

[SirCakez]

Will catch up tomorrow morning, I'm five pages behind and it's late

[JaeReed]

i found the opposite in Shadowrun, Jaereed. then again, you were in the game for longer.

What do you mean?

I know I threw away a lot of stuff Math was doing that I would have scumread any other player for, because "Oh it's Math" and I shouldn't have.

[MathBlade]

Because if Gio is town they have to because if Narna is town it innocent Child's Gio. Gio is the starting point not Narna. Narna's alignment confirms Gio's. (

Well assuming no mass event N5

)

And we KNOW there has been NO MASS EVENT on N5. Right?

It's not like a certain player claimed a mass event on N5, is it?

We don't know what that my faction means. That has been drummed up in circles.

[Not Chara]

Math is town, could we just leave them be? i called their behaviour scummy earlier, but it was out of frustration at it, not genuine belief they were scum.

[MathBlade]

Since we aren't mislynching me today I agree with the notion.

[JaeReed]

Fine; whatever. I still think they're scum.

I'm all for Almost's plan. Am only willing to lynch Creeps out of the ones that are apparently on the table for a lynch.

[BigYoshiFan]

Since we aren't mislynching me today I agree with the notion.

I mean, of course you would, but you'll just put this out there to be more LAMIST.

[MathBlade]

Fine; whatever. I still think they're scum.

I'm all for Almost's plan. Am only willing to lynch Creeps out of the ones that are apparently on the table for a lynch.

Creeps is not on the table. He is one of Narna's checks :face palm:

[Not Chara]

i found the opposite in Shadowrun, Jaereed. then again, you were in the game for longer.

What do you mean?

I know I threw away a lot of stuff Math was doing that I would have scumread any other player for, because "Oh it's Math" and I shouldn't have.

Math's play in Shadowrun was mostly deliberate. after arguing with them at length here, the actions of theirs i don't agree with come from differences in how we play the game. despite those differences, Math's internal logic here is consistent with 'Math'. in Shadowrun, i found myself agreeing with a lot more of what they were saying, presumably because they were more focused on their goal as scum than here, where they're playing normally and their 'moonlogic' is out in full force.

Shadowrun Math was concerned with not being mislynched, and with being listened to. Math here is being honest about their methods, means of reading players, and is receiving backlash for it but hasn't backed down or contradicted their beliefs.

if i'm wrong, let me know. i don't mean to compare the two and call Math town because they're different, i know that's faulty.

mainly what i'm saying is that Math doesn't appear to have a plan. they're literally posting as they feel. the logic isn't forced or changed to fit the narrative they need to push for the win.
i'm dissatisfied with how i'm wording this. :<

[JaeReed]

Fine; whatever. I still think they're scum.

I'm all for Almost's plan. Am only willing to lynch Creeps out of the ones that are apparently on the table for a lynch.

Creeps is not on the table. He is one of Narna's checks :face palm:

Urgh, I can't keep them clear. Too many in the chain.

I don't want a lynch on Pere because I think this is mislynch bait and being pushed like what happened in Shadowrun. I don't have a read on him so much as the people I find suspicious are pushing him.

I don't want a lynch on Ank. I hard townread him.

I don't want a lynch on Almost or Yoshi, I soft townread the former (and yes I adjusted for potential buddying there; I still think he's town) and the latter seems more likely to be town because I can make logical sense of his claimed action to fit with the gamestate. I guess the only question there would be: he wouldn't know that something like another faction would be created, so why didn't he use the shot earlier? Even then I feel the answer to that is a bit of a no brainer.

[MathBlade]

Like shooting fish in a barrel, right? 5 of the bolded players are scum out of 6....

SirCakez is conf town through things I cannot explain and I am town.

Not Chara/Yoshi/Almost 50 be scums

Sure- let's mark that.



02

SirCakez

03 Giovanni il Pellegrino*-weak cleared Narna
05

MathBlade

06

PeregrineV

11 Nahdia*-cleared as not killer
12 Accountant*

13 Not Chara
14 Ankamius*
17 BigYoshiFan

18 Narna- Kill checker

19 Almost50
21 Pine**

22 Creeps20-cleared as not-killer

So these are all just the remaining scum? I thought there were more clears.

Fixed. I am technically not clear but I am Town. SirCakez while clear to me is not clear to everyone else.

So, technically, I made the list of who I'm supposed to accept as scum.

You have made a list of......what exactly?

A list of pure concrete this is where scum could be lost.

I don't believe Yoshi FYI Andrius would have used it during the many times there were mislynches so we didn't end up in this spot.

Point of reference for you JaeReed

[MathBlade]

Then your only option is Not Chara.

[BigYoshiFan]

Well, if Shadowrun Math was concerned with not being lynched and with being listened to, then huge red flags or being thrown considering how many times he's said "so we're not mislynching me" and by how often he posts to ensure he is being listened to.