Large Normal 199: L'Hôtel Pleuvoir (Fin)

[mozamis]

He WASN'T the bona fide most town needed to be eliminated person, he was kinda fledgling middle. Cabd was my guess for dying tonight

He was very town read.
So was Cabd.
Why the fuck is Cabd still alive? Thoughts Cabd?

[Cabd]

Also once syr is here; I wanna talk setup spec because I have thoughts to bounce off of him.

Sure. Talk about your Lapsa vote first, though.

I did. It's not my fault you can't seem to catch up. Instead you keep asking stupid questions that are already responded to a few posts past the ones you quote.

[mozamis]

Ok, I am basically swapping Cabd for Elbrin as my "super strong town" read for the day.
Everything he has said so far seems confused, uncertain, and basically is asking the right questions. He wants to clarify, not obfuscate.

[mozamis]

In post 1842, CloudKicker wrote:
Titus is town, tywin is town, aj looks town, sonia is gut town with pro reads that are just like mine. Sbm might be playing a great scumgame btw, elbirn looks town enough, gamma with the mason comment looks ridiculously town

So Titus, tywin and Aj scum?
I can totally buy that.
Apart from the massive tywin and titus spat. Epic performance if so. I know Titus is capable of that sort of game. Anyone know Tywin's game? Is he good enough to pull of that kind of stuff?

[Alisae]

In post 1842, CloudKicker wrote:
Titus is town, tywin is town, aj looks town, sonia is gut town with pro reads that are just like mine. Sbm might be playing a great scumgame btw, elbirn looks town enough, gamma with the mason comment looks ridiculously town

So Titus, tywin and Aj scum?
I can totally buy that.
Apart from the massive tywin and titus spat. Epic performance if so. I know Titus is capable of that sort of game. Anyone know Tywin's game? Is he good enough to pull of that kind of stuff?

Yep. He is definitely good enough to pull that shit off.

Read this game for an example:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=69290
We spent the whole game scumreading each other. We were both townies.

[Elbirn]

In post 1842, CloudKicker wrote:
Titus is town, tywin is town, aj looks town, sonia is gut town with pro reads that are just like mine. Sbm might be playing a great scumgame btw, elbirn looks town enough, gamma with the mason comment looks ridiculously town

So Titus, tywin and Aj scum?
I can totally buy that.
Apart from the massive tywin and titus spat. Epic performance if so. I know Titus is capable of that sort of game. Anyone know Tywin's game? Is he good enough to pull of that kind of stuff?

Uh......no, no titus is nearly conftown, tywin is town, aj is whatever

This is the post that proves kyouko is a scummy butt

[Cabd]

In post 1842, CloudKicker wrote:
Titus is town, tywin is town, aj looks town, sonia is gut town with pro reads that are just like mine. Sbm might be playing a great scumgame btw, elbirn looks town enough, gamma with the mason comment looks ridiculously town

So Titus, tywin and Aj scum?
I can totally buy that.
Apart from the massive tywin and titus spat. Epic performance if so. I know Titus is capable of that sort of game. Anyone know Tywin's game? Is he good enough to pull of that kind of stuff?

Literally impossible unless those three plus me are scum

[Alisae]

Elbrin, if Tywin is town. Describe his push on Sonia earlier. Because that feels forced to me.

[mozamis]

Literally impossible unless those three plus me are scum

ok, caught up and have calmed slightly.
I'll rescind my rage vote for now. His reason for voting Lapsa sounds OK. Plus, I really want him to be town. He has to be null I guess for a while. But seems more profitabke to concentrate on cloud kikers stuff.

UNVOTE

[mozamis]

Instead you keep asking stupid questions

Try and keep it civil though. I don't want to have to bring down the full weight of my mighty rhetoric on your charming shoulders

[mozamis]

although i think that grammar was shit lol

[Titus]

Kyoko > Mizamis > Not Somia/Cabd

[Nosferatu]

s'ah dudes

[xSoniaNevermindx]

omg does that mean I'm one of your top tr's Titus? ;-;

[Pine]

Literally impossible unless those three plus me are scum

ok, caught up and have calmed slightly.
I'll rescind my rage vote for now. His reason for voting Lapsa sounds OK. Plus, I really want him to be town. He has to be null I guess for a while. But seems more profitabke to concentrate on cloud kikers stuff.

UNVOTE

My run through of Cloudkicker's ISO suggests that he was attacking Gamma, Alisea, Nero and I pretty consistently. There were others, and a few he went back and forth on, but they seemed more a feature of his spazzy nature than serious attacks.

More important is how hard he defended Tywin. That's where my vote is going.

VOTE: Tywin

[Alisae]

Pine do you think Cloud incriminated Kyouko?

[Titus]

omg does that mean I'm one of your top tr's Titus? ;-;

Nope. It just means by how the situation is playing out I don't want to lynch you for a few days.

[Elbirn]

@Alisae's question

Tywin's push on Sonia didn't feel forced to me? It seemed sensical. A belief that scum kill for a reason, which I share, and proposing that scum killed cloud due to a connection with sonia. Fair.

But what's YOUR read on Sonia because uhh you're all over the place?

What's your read on me altsae

Gun to my head town.

WERE GOOD FRIENDS AND IF I WAS SCUM I WOULD'VE KEPT HIM ALIVE FOR SO LONG

I can WIFOM this all fucking day.

Kyouko youre really underestimating what a traitor would to to indicates hes the traitor to their scumteam

Doesn't this post suggest lynch Kyouko?

To me it really does.

To me it also suggest a lynch on Sonia. It's makes absolutely no sense for her to shoot cloud that it makes sense.
Not to mention if Cloud was trying to buddy her, he could be trying to indicate to Sonia to pick him up on the scumteam.
Tho that part on Sonia probably needs more work.
VOTE: Kyouko

In fact in that last one you're even contradicting your view that tywin is "forced", *because you're agreeing with him and saying what he's saying*, that scum killed cloud for the sonia connection

And I'm kinda frustrated cuz man you're verifiably not scum now that you have that vig shot, even if you're an sk you're not group scum so idk where this mindset is even coming from.

And I just wanna, with this post, challenge you to think think think about the things and let's work this out.

Tywin is not a good push.

[xSoniaNevermindx]

omg does that mean I'm one of your top tr's Titus? ;-;

Nope. It just means by how the situation is playing out I don't want to lynch you for a few days.

Jee...thanks

[Titus]

Serial killer more likely than not.

Wants to appease everyone and gas a kill = SK (Option A)
Massive PR (Option B).

Those tend to be the two slots that want everyone to like them.

[Titus]

omg does that mean I'm one of your top tr's Titus? ;-;

Nope. It just means by how the situation is playing out I don't want to lynch you for a few days.

Jee...thanks

Had to throw out my reads and start again. Plus, there's a scumhunting reason to be slow with reads as near conftown. A lack of pushback means no check on my reads.

[Aj The Epic]

Yeah gunsmith suggests SK, but tbh it's a necessary evil at this point.

[Titus]

@Alisae's question

Tywin's push on Sonia didn't feel forced to me? It seemed sensical. A belief that scum kill for a reason, which I share, and proposing that scum killed cloud due to a connection with sonia. Fair.

But what's YOUR read on Sonia because uhh you're all over the place?

What's your read on me altsae

Gun to my head town.

WERE GOOD FRIENDS AND IF I WAS SCUM I WOULD'VE KEPT HIM ALIVE FOR SO LONG

I can WIFOM this all fucking day.

Kyouko youre really underestimating what a traitor would to to indicates hes the traitor to their scumteam

Doesn't this post suggest lynch Kyouko?

To me it really does.

To me it also suggest a lynch on Sonia. It's makes absolutely no sense for her to shoot cloud that it makes sense.
Not to mention if Cloud was trying to buddy her, he could be trying to indicate to Sonia to pick him up on the scumteam.
Tho that part on Sonia probably needs more work.
VOTE: Kyouko

In fact in that last one you're even contradicting your view that tywin is "forced", *because you're agreeing with him and saying what he's saying*, that scum killed cloud for the sonia connection

And I'm kinda frustrated cuz man you're verifiably not scum now that you have that vig shot, even if you're an sk you're not group scum so idk where this mindset is even coming from.

And I just wanna, with this post, challenge you to think think think about the things and let's work this out.

Tywin is not a good push.

I want to see where this Tywin push goes.

[Elbirn]

Literally impossible unless those three plus me are scum

ok, caught up and have calmed slightly.
I'll rescind my rage vote for now. His reason for voting Lapsa sounds OK. Plus, I really want him to be town. He has to be null I guess for a while. But seems more profitabke to concentrate on cloud kikers stuff.

UNVOTE

My run through of Cloudkicker's ISO suggests that he was attacking Gamma, Alisea, Nero and I pretty consistently. There were others, and a few he went back and forth on, but they seemed more a feature of his spazzy nature than serious attacks.

More important is how hard he defended Tywin. That's where my vote is going.

VOTE: Tywin

I'm just gonna keep defending tywin while he continues to ignore my love

It's pretty easy for scum to play peacemaker for town cred when they see a TvT fight. I don't think there was anyone in this game that wanted to see tywin v. Titus continue any longer, and the "protown" move was clearly to try to promote peace

[Titus]

Yeah gunsmith suggests SK, but tbh it's a necessary evil at this point.

Not really. Vig shows as with gun.

Too bad Cabd is out of shots though.