WWE Mafia - Smackdown! (Game Over - Off Television)

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You can't fight the mod's info bro

You should be careful about messing with someone whose ass cheek is as large as your entire body.

VOTE: -Grey- for being a fake wanna-be rapper white boi. I see you clearly, poser.

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@Vince McMahon, can general managers be scum?

What era is the game taking place in?

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2 mini's that merge into 1 I assume?
Neat

Why would you assume that?

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2 mini's that merge into 1 I assume?
Neat

Why would you assume that?

Well why else would he ask for a 30 player sign up in a large theme instead of just asking for 2 mini's

It's a single game spread between two topics. What I'm wondering is why you assume that the two topics will merge at some point.

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VOTE: Gamma
VOTE: Pepto

Leave my mason buddy alone.

That's not how saving someone works, by the way.

I'm already voting Grey and tbh I'm kinda OK with my vote there. The finishing moves seemed like an awkward ploy to me.

Creature is probably scum too.

IaI and Titus are probably town.

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Wtf is going on here. I can't tell if people are joking with 'finishers' or not due to how many on ms think fake claim actions are a cool thing to do. If someone is joking, they need to not bold it. These mechanics require others to join in to support or stop a finisher. If I can't tell if serious, then wtf?

I read Raw and then saw Mcmennis call TB and I scum. I also so a fight about whose scummy compared to who took what seriously? Apparently I need to reread to look for finishing moves that were serious/not serious? That should be a policy tho to not joke about a bolded finisher. It breaks the game. Stop.

Relax.

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Apparently I'm voteless ...

@Vince McMahon, did my vote for Grey not get counted on purpose?

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VOTE: Gamma
VOTE: Pepto

Leave my mason buddy alone.

That's not how saving someone works, by the way.

I'm already voting Grey and tbh I'm kinda OK with my vote there. The finishing moves seemed like an awkward ploy to me.

Creature is probably scum too.

IaI and Titus are probably town.

Why are your reads terribad?

What a strange question, considering I had you as a town read.

I'll give you another chance to rephrase.

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alban, IAI, Titus, Grey, Tywin, me

Why am I being grouped with alban and Titus?

Creature is trying to townblock the hood.

It's pretty weird that one of my scum reads is trying to form a town bloc with my top scum read despite not having any meaningful interactions between them.

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alban, IAI, Titus, Grey, Tywin, me

Why am I being grouped with alban and Titus?

Creature is trying to townblock the hood.

It's pretty weird that one of my scum reads is trying to form a town bloc with my top scum read despite not having any meaningful interactions between them.

Pronoun confusion.

Creature, and Grey.

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Too many posts to go into depth but I'll post my skim-thoughts.

@Creature, you can stop including me in the fake town bloc now.

@Tywin, I haven't forgotten about your question, it's just the pace of the game right now is piling more crap I have to sort through. That being said, you are asking everyone tons of questions but avoiding (?) taking a stance on anyone. Correct me if I missed your reads or just give your current reads please.

@Vifam, the actions of Grey might be NAI but I suspect his mannerisms and motive for using it to be scummy. I'll try to elaborate more tomorrow when I have more time to fully dive into the thread.

Titus is also starting to worry me. There are some logical holes in her exchange with Maria but I will have to revisit that later.

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GMs are not confirmed to be Town so why are y'all even speccing what they might possibly do?

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I wish we could ship Maria over. Her interactions are all over the place. While I think she's town, she's not making it easy for me to sort people like Titus and Vifam.

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Lynch in Gamma IAI Creature Alban all I gotta say

I could do Creature but apparently none of my votes are counted properly. I've already asked for mod confirmation twice so there's something going on with my vote out of my control.

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Honestly lets just kill everyone that isn't Me/KT/Maria/Grey/Zef/Tywin and we'll be okay imo

Why are you town-reading Grey?

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and the fact that NOBODY has tried to save GAMMA at all seems to show that he doesnt have scumbuddies here to save him so it's more likely hes not scum

Gamma and Grey could be partners. I will need to reread Gamma soon when I have some time. Just skimming his catch-up, I don't see a whole lot of content to draw a conclusion from. Meh.

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I no longer have qualms about this:

VOTE: GammaEmerald

Reasons:

-Nobody scumreads Grey (who is obviously scum [and yes I know I still haven't typed up my case on him, but I have one] and getting a free pass due to a hard defense by Titus for illogical reasons) and is willing to pursue his lynch
(That last sentence was a doozy but if you follow the laws of parentheses you'll be fine)
-Grey saved Gamma for inexplicable reasons. It's part of my case, but why would someone who shamelessly uses his finishers suddenly jump in to stop another finisher that had nothing to do with him? Like Titus said, it's completely out of left field. The only thing that makes sense is that Grey and Gamma are scum partners.
-Gamma's catch-up provided no substantial content, just a bunch of one-liners and fluff.
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The biggest reason though, is because Gamma stormed into action to try and gain town-standing off of the whole Vifam "slip" thing despite not having any convictions about these matters before. It reads as an attempt to rush to a so-called "confirmed" townie's defense and align himself in the same vein.

It's bullshit.

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I no longer have qualms about this:

VOTE: GammaEmerald

Reasons:

-Nobody scumreads Grey (who is obviously scum [and yes I know I still haven't typed up my case on him, but I have one] and getting a free pass due to a hard defense by Titus for illogical reasons) and is willing to pursue his lynch
(That last sentence was a doozy but if you follow the laws of parentheses you'll be fine)
-Grey saved Gamma for inexplicable reasons. It's part of my case, but why would someone who shamelessly uses his finishers suddenly jump in to stop another finisher that had nothing to do with him? Like Titus said, it's completely out of left field. The only thing that makes sense is that Grey and Gamma are scum partners.
-Gamma's catch-up provided no substantial content, just a bunch of one-liners and fluff.
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The biggest reason though, is because Gamma stormed into action to try and gain town-standing off of the whole Vifam "slip" thing despite not having any convictions about these matters before. It reads as an attempt to rush to a so-called "confirmed" townie's defense and align himself in the same vein.

It's bullshit.

You know I didn't HAVE TO catch up as scum: as someone else said, talking more gives associations. It's a bad idea to talk more as scum if you are doomed.

The only associations given are with Vifam, who's essentially a mod-confirmed IC that you decided to white-knight extraordinarily hard, and Maria, who you scumread for no discernible reason.

You also ignored my primary point despite it being bolded, perhaps because you have no refutation available. You were overly giddy in trying to coattail the "confirmed town by Vifam slip!!" debacle and were caught.

You have now attempted to unravel the thread in your dying moments by using WIFOM and uncertainty to threaten the Town, all whilst providing no meaningful reads. You can eat rope.

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DiamondSentinel, MariaR, Peptobislawl, zefiend

Everybody else is town.

That's our queue, Maria!

VOTE: Creature

Continually making wide-spread town bloc reads with no actual content only lets you coast so long.

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Oh yeah. This lines up exactly with my read of creature. Sorry, z. I'm not going to join you on that. He just seems like he is really really wrong about stuff. Doesn't make him scum, though.

PEdit: If you read my catch-up post, I think that was one that I cited. She made some very very strong townposts. Most of her ISO has those.

Yes he is very wrong about stuff, but also he just admitted he's not willing to work with us.

I also want to get Grey but everyone else is blind to his scumtells apparently.

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Grey.

Tell me why the fuck you are scumreading me.

Is it because I said that you've got a pissy attitude? Because you do. You waltzed into this thread and gave out a toxicity only matched by KainTepes. You've done nothing to help the game. You led a wagon that ended up killing a town player, without there actually being a good reason for it.

Pot, meet kettle. So after reading everything, your only scum read was me, and from what I can gather, it was due to me 'naked voting' Gamma. You apparently didn't care about any posts I made previously when I scum read him, so your huge scum read that you want lynched is due to a vote, one that almost everyone else made as well.

So... You're basically saying that you don't have any scum reads at all, and you want to lynch me without reason... Yet give -grey- shit for lynching someone 'without reason.' You also give him shit for his content, yet yours is just admitting that you have nothing to add. Everything you've said so far is about shading others due to voting Gamma, yet you're ignoring everyone else who voted him. Why? How do you have no real scum reads after freshly reading the game? If your clamering to get me lynched is due to voting Gamma, then saying 'I have no real SRs' would be more honest of you.

Can you reread Grey outside the context here (with respect to DiamondSentinel) and tell me your thoughts? He's essentially trolling his way to victory if he's scum. How is using a pseudo-day-vig for no better reason than roleplaying anything but anti-town?

I have been wanting Grey since forever but apparently everyone is blind to scumtells in this game.

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So everyone finds Grey NAI for the whole game? I'm done beating that dead horse.
DS' read on Tywin is laughably inaccurate, but I dunno if scum could be so deliberately stubborn with the entire thread. He gets a weird pseudo-town-read from me for now.
Something about the Pepto wagon stinks. Need to reread from yesterDay later.

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VOTE: Titus
Let's just end this rn

I claim Mason with Pepto

OK cool. But can we get Grey instead?

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Ohmygod this game. Think I'm gonna go back and reread from DS' intro post to make sense of all this progression.

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@Tywin: The scumread on Grey is attributed to three things 1) his half-joking/half-serious use of the finishers, 2) not producing independent reads (except the recent OMGUS on me), and 3) gut feeling partially based on the awkward interactions with Titus.

In regards to Diamond, I feel about him the same way you feel about Creature. I think he is really wrong about things (like scumreading you), but I don't scumread him for it.

Creature's vote on Grey (that Vince apparently missed) is also very strange and doesn't sway me from thinking that Grey and Creature could be partners.

I am taking Maria's claim at face value because I've had her as a Town-read for the whole game now AND I sensed there was something fishy about the Pepto wagon. Not really sure who to begin to look at with that one.

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I'ma take with pep on Creature and IaI if we reach an agreement that'll be our lynch

What ever happened to this?

I do think there's 1 scum in Tywin/DS
but I sr so many other people!

I actually don't. Wanna talk about this?

VOTE: Tywin

Hey Dimond wanna vote this?

Tywin is a terrible lynch.

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I'm kinda sold on the idea of one Hardy Boy being Town, one being scum, just like one manager is probably Town and the other scum at this point.

Pretty sure Maria is the Townie, so VOTE: Pepto.