Open 660 - White Flag (Game Over)

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1850 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:12 am

I'm getting good vibes from Creature.
Reason: Meta

OMFG that was fun.

Creature · Post Post #1851 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:48 am

Inb4 kenye/Trans comes saying meta sucks.

ssbm_Kyouko · Post Post #1852 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:27 pm

In post 1840, Transcend wrote:
In post 1826, Gamma Emerald wrote:I know how T plays as town and this is not it.

In post 1837, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1836, keyenpeydee wrote:considering what I said when i last voted gamma, he isn't even scum hunting which isn't a protown thing to do.
That's a lie. I love how everyone seems to love saying "this guys not realky playing". It's really obvious you're scum when you do that.
At this rate I won't have the support to lynch my scumreads, so I make a proposition: you can lynch me today then lynch keyen or Transcend tomorrow. I will selfvote to make this happen.

Get this

I don't want you lynched

This is penguin mafia all over again

If this is Penguin Mafia can we not mislynch me again kthx

Toto · Post Post #1853 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:50 pm

My current best guess at the scum team is Transcend+Creature+KT.

This is mostly coming from Transcend and KT to be honest. Creature is a good player and he plays calmly as both alignments from what I've read and I don't know what to make of yet.

+ Transcend is not showing any attempt to seriously gamesolve (up until he got wagoned) or participate in the game. He has a very non-chalant attitude. Some people are town reading him for it, but I’m not so convinced. Something about his attitude doesn’t strike me as genuine. He was TRing Dave before we lynched him but didn’t do much to defend him in the end. The recent reaction is making me rethink this position but after watching the conviction in Gamma about his change in meta I'm going to stick with this.

+ Kt is gimmick account that is hard to read. He thinks I’m scum with LQ and gamma. My guess is that his play is to try to piss people off to get some better reads (Town) or get them ML (scum). I’m leaning on the latter. His reads have been inconsistent. Like pushing Gamma or LQ but not pushing me when his case on them is that they are my scum buddies. He is trying to push blame of Dave’s ML to other people.

+ Deimos was part of a

hydra that lurked

. His buddy left and now he left too. We are waiting for his replacement. Leaving the game may be a town tell, but the reason he left (boring) is giving me second thoughts. His participation in Alban's wagon was dubious and has not done much since then. Creature replaces and immediately top town reads Transcend to dig him out of the hole.

My top town read is Alban/Arc, because of the way he left the game in frustration. I just to don't see a scum leaving the game for those reasons, and the reactions during his wagon also looked townie to me. I had some mixed feelings after he took a step back but after his recent reaction I think he was just not satisfied with the game.

I have mixed feelings about Keyen/LQ/Gamma. Gamma's conviction look genuine to me and I trust him more now. LQ seems to share my suspicion that KT and Transcend are scummy. Keyen has had low content but his non-confrontational and apologetic attitude is giving me town vibes.

Chill has had low content but nothing that has really pinged me so far.

Vedith has not done much but I had an early TR on him when he replaced in and was asking questions.

Creature · Post Post #1854 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:51 pm

lol, I understand the paranoia on Transcend, but Transcend + KainTepes?

Creature · Post Post #1855 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:51 pm

I believe this should be another easy game where I'll have to shout at the town not sheeping my reads from the graveyard.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1856 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:53 pm

In post 1854, Creature wrote:lol, I understand the paranoia on Transcend, but Transcend + KainTepes?

Yes, totally possible here.

ssbm_Kyouko · Post Post #1857 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:06 pm

ok so it's either Transcend+LQ or Toto+LQ imo and my best read is on LQ so I'm gonna urge you Transcend to vote LQ for cw purposes. If he flips scum I'll vote Toto tomorrow, and if Toto flips town after that I'm gonna be watching you like a hawk so you'd better NK me at that point if you want to live

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1858 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:08 pm

In post 1857, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:ok so it's either Transcend+LQ or Toto+LQ imo and my best read is on LQ so I'm gonna urge you Transcend to vote LQ for cw purposes. If he flips scum I'll vote Toto tomorrow, and if Toto flips town after that I'm gonna be watching you like a hawk so you'd better NK me at that point if you want to live

Hmmm...

Creature · Post Post #1859 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:09 pm

I don't get LQ.

Creature · Post Post #1860 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:09 pm

Why is LQ scum?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1861 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:15 pm

In post 1858, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1857, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:ok so it's either Transcend+LQ or Toto+LQ imo and my best read is on LQ so I'm gonna urge you Transcend to vote LQ for cw purposes. If he flips scum I'll vote Toto tomorrow, and if Toto flips town after that I'm gonna be watching you like a hawk so you'd better NK me at that point if you want to live
Hmmm...

Talk to me, what are you thinking here?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1862 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:20 pm

In post 1861, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1858, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1857, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:ok so it's either Transcend+LQ or Toto+LQ imo and my best read is on LQ so I'm gonna urge you Transcend to vote LQ for cw purposes. If he flips scum I'll vote Toto tomorrow, and if Toto flips town after that I'm gonna be watching you like a hawk so you'd better NK me at that point if you want to live
Hmmm...
Talk to me, what are you thinking here?

Why Toto first?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1863 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:22 pm

In post 1862, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1861, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1858, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1857, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:ok so it's either Transcend+LQ or Toto+LQ imo and my best read is on LQ so I'm gonna urge you Transcend to vote LQ for cw purposes. If he flips scum I'll vote Toto tomorrow, and if Toto flips town after that I'm gonna be watching you like a hawk so you'd better NK me at that point if you want to live
Hmmm...
Talk to me, what are you thinking here?
Why Toto first?

why didn't you ask SSBM that first?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1864 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:24 pm

@ssbm: why would you lynch Toto before Transcend?

ssbm_Kyouko · Post Post #1865 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:30 pm

I like Transcend and think LQ makes sense with both of them. I also buy into the Toto case a little bit but I think LQ is scummier. I also think Transcend pointing out that the alban wagon wasn't right felt like town!Transcend

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1866 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:31 pm

I don't know that I like SSBM lining up lynches. Not sure I like that at all.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1867 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:33 pm

In post 1866, LicketyQuickety wrote:I don't know that I like SSBM lining up lynches. Not sure I like that at all.

You thinking what I'm thinking?

ssbm_Kyouko · Post Post #1868 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:34 pm

In post 1867, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1866, LicketyQuickety wrote:I don't know that I like SSBM lining up lynches. Not sure I like that at all.
You thinking what I'm thinking?

Penguin Mafia, part 2

Toto · Post Post #1869 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:40 pm

In post 1854, Creature wrote:lol, I understand the paranoia on Transcend, but Transcend + KainTepes?

They are the only ones that didn't vote dave in the final wagon and are both looking to get someone killed out of it.

Creature · Post Post #1870 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:40 pm

What's your opinion on chilledtea?

Toto · Post Post #1871 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:49 pm

I said nothing had pinged me about him so far. He seems to really not like deimos/you but other than that I haven't noticed anything odd. I have not really been keeping a close watch on everyone. Why do you ask?

Toto · Post Post #1872 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:16 pm

In post 1487, Transcend wrote:One of these days we'll lynch scum together, Aubrey.

VOTE: Toto

Like how can you guys read this sentence and tell me this guy is not scum.

VOTE: transcend

Creature · Post Post #1873 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:20 pm

VOTE: Transcend

ssbm_Kyouko · Post Post #1874 (ISO) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:23 pm

In post 90, Transcend wrote:Ok

Aubrey is town

We can do this buddy

In post 725, Transcend wrote:yeah you can't even properly counter this LEGITIMATE argument

GET SOME FUCKIN ROPE DUDE

aubrey this is our time to shine. we're getting this scumfuck lynched. you and me. we missed our opportunity to go the distance in Friends & Enemies.

In post 1487, Transcend wrote:One of these days we'll lynch scum together, Aubrey.

VOTE: Toto

This is the full context but while reading the iso It seems like he has a lot more suspects than usual. Like when I've been town with him he usually finds a lynchpool pretty early on in the game and narrows it down but this isn't what it looks like this time.
idk man I don't like meta but [Transcend/Toto, LQ] is my 2 cents. Transcend/Toto can't be TvT here I don't think