Pick Your Power: Double Deck (GAME OVER)

[Vecna]

We should not hammer this wagon today before EVERYONE has commented on why he is/is not voting Maria. No more naked vote bullshit, especially from people that have not been suspecting maria prior

[Vecna]

This is probably why creature had to die:

So somebody put that Alpha Deck Rig card on top of the deck?

VOTE: Drone

Just voting the player with the most votes for now. I know he was at L-1 a little while ago. Was that a bad thing? ^_^

Okay, found a very bad vote.

MariaR and milkshake are most likely the scum in the wagon, maybe Titus also is.

[MariaR]

I wake up to 6 votes on me what the fuck?
I don't even know what to say to this I have done everything people ask I have changed how I want to play MY game at points where I really didn't fucking want to just so you could help read me better
I don't get this scumread on me and it just feels like a giant bw on me
If I get to L-2 I'm gonna spill but holy shit

VOTE: Kison
This or Dunn can die today

[MariaR]

Hammering Jack was really fucking stupid I don't know why everyone is saying I'm the venge shot? I don't have a gov card that cards boring af and doesn't go with my plan
The people who have tried to make up a case with me when I gave an answer they outright just ignored it and kept my vote on they didn't try and disprove me it's just "lol okay" like the reasons I've seen people sr me is "You're trying to play the cute card!" Not true not once have I done that besides I already did that before "You're only omgus voting" I only did that once all my other votes were real with logic given for them 4 of the people I sr are voting me coincidence? I don't fucking think so

[Vedith]

Hammering Jack was really fucking stupid I don't know why everyone is saying I'm the venge shot?

I don't have a gov card

that cards boring af and doesn't go with my plan

Again, lets confirm that Maria does

not

have the gov card.

[Vecna]

Didnt you say you had it vedith? Because jackel had the other one

[Quipla]

DECK x 40 - TRUMP x 1 - DISCARD PILE x 15

DAY 3 VOTECOUNT #3

MariaR (6)

- Dunnstral, kraska77, Kison, Lil Uzi Vert, gigabyteTroubadour, Vecna

Kison (2)

- Titus, MariaR

Not Voting (11)

- Vedith, milkshake, Transcend, gerryoat, Fishythefish, davesaz, Maxous, drealmerz7, SpyreX, McMenno, Vifam

With 19 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline is set for (expired on 2016-12-27 23:46:27)

[drealmerz7]

okay caught up

that's some fast votes, but,

yes pls

VOTE: MariaR

sometimes a fast wagon is because it's obvious scum -

Having said that I think discussion is good and we shouldn't be hasty to lynch. Vecna is right, all those who are voting/going to vote maria need to actually talk about it a little and not just hop on a convenient wagon. Like in grade school - everyone give 2-4 sentences explaining

in their own words

(that's the key!) why they think mariar is likely scum and should be the lynch today.

I do think my position is clear and no need to reiterate?

Of course those opposed to a maria lynch / think she's town, and/or see a better lynch option, would be very good to argue as to why. Hard defends like "maria is town because this is town maria" or whatever are not acceptable. WHY is it town maria? And who are the scum painting townmaria falsely as scum, or is it just fellow townies doing it? We need to get into these shits for sorting purposes.

[MariaR]

Then why don't you start us off and say why you think I'm scum

[drealmerz7]

uhhh, did you read my post?
have you read my other posts?

done did

[drealmerz7]

oh wait that is just you trolling, derrrrr

[MariaR]

You didn't post anything on why you think I'm scum in that post lol
Do it now
I'm not trolling I don't troll

[Titus]

Let's see here, when MariaR flips town and/or I die, we lynch in my scum pool. The MariaR shot was stupid.

[Vecna]

How do you explain her surviving it Titus? (if it indeed was Maria that was targeted, but that seems pretty likely).

Do you really think scum would save town Maria? Why? Just in the hopes of us wasting a lynch on it?

[McMenno]

I don't think I can support a mariar lynch here

one I feel like this is kinda her v kraska on who jackel shot and I am scumreading kraska more

two she is my scumbuddy and I don't really want to bus right now

[davesaz]

MariaR tried to fake not knowing rb was a scum kill. That kind of a post is a nervous scum reaction that I've seen before from multiple players. I've even slipped and done it myself in the past. Secondly that kind of (apparently clueless) question can elicit the vig(s) to disclaim the kill thus revealing themselves. I don't buy her reaction to being called on this tell. Jackel was a counter to her wagon. For today's vote she picked the only person other than her with a vote, and she didn't give a reason.

Titus, if you really think she's town maybe you should remind us why you think that. Also last I heard your scumpool included me, and we've played enough times together that you should easily know that I'm town.

[Fishythefish]

I will repeat in big bold letters since y'all seem to have trouble seeing it.

You can't use the lack of a vengekill to scumhunt. Do it the normal way.

If you think someone is scum by their actions that's fine, but the lack of a death proves nothing.

Spoiler: btw

I haven't lost that scumread on MariaR, but I want to avoid having town rush into a potentially bad decision without thinking about it first! We may come to the same conclusion for the right reasons and that I'm totally fine with.

I strongly disagree. I think a missed vengekill makes the obvious targets for that kill much more likely scum - since scum probably guessed the shot right. Those are Titus and kraska (Jackel had said he was choosing between them), with side orders of McMenno and Maria (some chat, mentioned by Jackel as possible targets).

[Fishythefish]

Currently revisiting my Maria read. What has changed since yesterday to get to this wagon size so fast?

[Titus]

How do you explain her surviving it Titus? (if it indeed was Maria that was targeted, but that seems pretty likely).

Do you really think scum would save town Maria? Why? Just in the hopes of us wasting a lynch on it?

Yes. Or town who townreads her or town Maria has a bulletproof card or...

This rush to lynch Maria has scum written all over it

[Titus]

MariaR tried to fake not knowing rb was a scum kill. That kind of a post is a nervous scum reaction that I've seen before from multiple players. I've even slipped and done it myself in the past. Secondly that kind of (apparently clueless) question can elicit the vig(s) to disclaim the kill thus revealing themselves. I don't buy her reaction to being called on this tell. Jackel was a counter to her wagon. For today's vote she picked the only person other than her with a vote, and she didn't give a reason.

Titus, if you really think she's town maybe you should remind us why you think that. Also last I heard your scumpool included me, and we've played enough times together that you should easily know that I'm town.

Nah, you oughta know by now, I think meta and BoP are shit.

Jackal was a counter to Kison as well.

I have said why Maria is town. She's been a counter to scum and scummy players. She is too scumread to actually be scum.

[Maxous]

if Maria has a bulletproof card she should claim it immediately.

if a town player protected her or anyone else likely to be shot - that should also be claimed immediately.

[MariaR]

MariaR tried to fake not knowing rb was a scum kill. That kind of a post is a nervous scum reaction that I've seen before from multiple players. I've even slipped and done it myself in the past. Secondly that kind of (apparently clueless) question can elicit the vig(s) to disclaim the kill thus revealing themselves. I don't buy her reaction to being called on this tell. Jackel was a counter to her wagon. For today's vote she picked the only person other than her with a vote, and she didn't give a reason.

Titus, if you really think she's town maybe you should remind us why you think that. Also last I heard your scumpool included me, and we've played enough times together that you should easily know that I'm town.

Didn't know scum could kill during the day said this.
Don't have a bp card also

[Vecna]

GM, does bulletproof protect again the vengeful kill? Also, do people get notified if a doctor/white mage type of ability saves them?

[Transcend]

Hey

[Dunnstral]

It's me