Mini 1856 - This Mafia Game is for pieguyn (Game Over)

[pisskop]

Regardless of whether pisskop says anything or not, we know from pisskop's role PM that Varsoon and Wisdom are scum. Once he's dead it's not like he needs to worry about towntelling more.

If anything, them claiming that demonstrates pisskop isn't on a team with them; he coulda told Varsoon and Wisdom that his role contradicts a claim of being in a hood together. pisskop can only be scum if he's a traitor.

But if he is scum with them, he has to bus them based on his role. If he flips, then V and W are confscum for fakeclaiming a neighborhood.

are tou willfully not getting it?

i didnt have to out the hoods, i didnt have to out v and w, i didnt have yo claim. i could have claimed in.my night hood and get beeboy killed.

your reaching so harf

[Nahdia]

Regardless of whether pisskop says anything or not, we know from pisskop's role PM that Varsoon and Wisdom are scum. Once he's dead it's not like he needs to worry about towntelling more.

If anything, them claiming that demonstrates pisskop isn't on a team with them; he coulda told Varsoon and Wisdom that his role contradicts a claim of being in a hood together. pisskop can only be scum if he's a traitor.

But if he is scum with them, he has to bus them based on his role. If he flips, then V and W are confscum for fakeclaiming a neighborhood.

Oh my god.

Ok, let's try this. Let's say you're scum with Alice and Bob. In your role PM, it says "Alice and Bob are scum with you". And for whatever reason, you know that if you die, that part of your role PM will flip to.

DO YOU TELL EVERYONE THAT ALICE AND BOB ARE SCUM?

[Nahdia]

You're being

incredibly

dense, Gamma. I know you're smarter than this. Take a step back and rethink this, you're flat out

wrong

here.

[pisskop]

Also, last night was the perfect time for me to kill if I was scum.

SCUM CANT KILL IT PROVES NOTHING

[Gamma Emerald]

Regardless of whether pisskop says anything or not, we know from pisskop's role PM that Varsoon and Wisdom are scum. Once he's dead it's not like he needs to worry about towntelling more.

If anything, them claiming that demonstrates pisskop isn't on a team with them; he coulda told Varsoon and Wisdom that his role contradicts a claim of being in a hood together. pisskop can only be scum if he's a traitor.

But if he is scum with them, he has to bus them based on his role. If he flips, then V and W are confscum for fakeclaiming a neighborhood.

Oh my god.

Ok, let's try this. Let's say you're scum with Alice and Bob. In your role PM, it says "Alice and Bob are scum with you". And for whatever reason, you know that if you die, that part of your role PM will flip to.

DO YOU TELL EVERYONE THAT ALICE AND BOB ARE SCUM?

You don't get it obviously.
Pisskop's role states he's in all neighborhoods. Then his scum buddies claim a hood he is not in. By his role information, he knows this is a lie. Now presume Aero vigged him. We know:
>Pisskop was in all hoods
>V and W had another "hood" that he wasn't in
>V and W are confscum.
>after their deaths, 3/3 mafia are dead.
Mafia loses!

[Nahdia]

Oh my god. Dude.

[Nahdia]

You're so fucking stupid.

[Nahdia]

He said it in a NEIGHBORHOOD. WithOUT THE VIG IN IT.

[Nahdia]

And regardless of if he tells us when he's alive or we find out when he's dead, we still find out one way or another that Wisdom & Varsoon are confscum.

[Gamma Emerald]

BTW, dwlee was still alive at that point. You can't say "I could have had them kill X" because one would have lived to tell about it, unless you only did it in the one hood.

[Gamma Emerald]

And regardless of if he tells us when he's alive or we find out when he's dead, we still find out one way or another that Wisdom & Varsoon are confscum.

So as scum, it makes more sense to bus and make sure you don't get stuck in autoloss.

[pisskop]

holy shit gamma

one hood was a day hood.
one way a night hood.
and you h
just contradicted yourself.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay that makes sense. But still, if pisskop died, his buddies' play would have lost the game for them.

[Nahdia]

Christ almighty. If that was your point then why didn't you get to it 50 fucking posts ago.

It's a bad point, because pisskop was in no danger of dying, but at least it makes some logical sense

[pisskop]

i just cant.

gamma i dont even care if you're going hypocritically tunnel me with.moomlogic and then call me tunneling pie.

you need to lay out a plan for order of lynching

[pisskop]

you need to explain why you think scum CAN kill but HASNT
because you seem to tjink so

[Gamma Emerald]

i just cant.

gamma i dont even care if you're going hypocritically tunnel me with.moomlogic and then call me tunneling pie.

you need to lay out a plan for order of lynching

You get lynched first. Cakez or
pie next (fakeclaiming IC is suicide, and I still think Luna is town).

[pisskop]

its really not suicide to claim backup ic who cant invoke modconfing if the main ic does.

not as a traitor. it makes you a more valuable kill, it geta you townread, it does a lot to the wincon

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm saying Nahdia is town based on that.

[pisskop]

like in a.game where ic is around most the game you can ride the roleclaim right through.

you said my role.obligated me to out scum despite it.not, do you not see how a fakeclaim like backup ic would help scum?

they could even refuse to claim like nadhia did. why not?



but, again. why do.you think scum is refusing to kill instead of unable.to?


p:

yea nadhia is tow

[pisskop]

once we establish why you think scum can kill but chooses not to im surr i can show you why im unlikely to be scum

[Gamma Emerald]

Scum chooses not to kill so the lynches are determined by Night actions, and not scumhunting.

[Nahdia]

VOTE: Remilia Scarlet

[GuyInFreezer]

VC 5.01

pisskop (2):

pieguyn, Gamma Emerald

Remilia Scarlet (1):

Nahdia

With 6 alive, 4 to lynch

The deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-31 16:48:19)

[pisskop]

how does that benefit them though?

killing the tracker and blocker shuts that down, and 3 mislynches is waay easier than 6