Mini 1856 - This Mafia Game is for pieguyn (Game Over)

pisskop · Post Post #3050 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:54 am

In post 3048, Nahdia wrote:Implying you ever were considering her confed................????????????

implying that now theres more precedent to the claim she isnt.

pisskop · Post Post #3051 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:55 am

I do not want to fight you guys over this.

I dont see her as town, you think she is, lets just talk about it.

pieguyn · Post Post #3052 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:59 am

In post 3051, pisskop wrote:I do not want to fight you guys over this.

I dont see her as town, you think she is, lets just talk about it.

if you don't want to "fight me" over it, then quit being a fucking idiot, how about that?

I'll quit berating you for being an idiot when you quit being an idiot.

pisskop · Post Post #3053 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:01 am

How long do you think people will continue to disagree with me?

Do you have any response to the idea that its a traitor or like a lyncher or something?

Would a lyncher keep the game going?

pieguyn · Post Post #3054 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:02 am

a lyncher wouldn't keep the game going, the textbook implementation is that it loses if the game ends while it's still alive.

I would never have power-bussed my entire team the way I would have had I been scum here if I was running a "claim a confirmable role and just sit and hope that it never gets disproven" strategy, ever.

pieguyn · Post Post #3055 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:05 am

and I know you like to think that you were some huge part of the reason Wisdom got lynched, but no, you weren't. you did happen to be correct (even though I think you largely just made an assumption and were correct more via sheer coincidence than anything. it's possible that I'm wrong, I mostly didn't bring it up because there was no point either way), but I knew Wisdom was scum ever since the point where he made his EOD1 posts, I was forcing that lynch through D2 regardless of anything that had happened.

ISO · Post Post #3056 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:05 am

Luna visited pie.....

Nahdia · Post Post #3057 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:07 am

As foretold in the prophecy.

pieguyn · Post Post #3058 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:27 am

like frankly, pisskop, I *really* should not need to be explaining to you why I'm town here. it's patently obvious.

pisskop · Post Post #3059 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:31 am

I dont think so.

The last scum hasnt killed. Probably cannot. Ergo traitor.
This means that any of cakez results are worthless. We do know that he is getting them though, so he isnt lying.

The question is what role does the scumteam benefit most from?

tracker? perhaps
blocker? maybe
Magicn conftown that isnt really conftown? yes.

pieguyn · Post Post #3060 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:38 am

In post 3059, pisskop wrote:The question is what role does the scumteam benefit most from?

tracker? perhaps
blocker? maybe
Magicn conftown that isnt really conftown? yes.

what the fuck are you even on about here?

you think that BACKUP IC IS A SCUM ROLE *WITH AN IC IN THE FUCKING GAME*?

PLEASE DO EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS, OH PARAGON OF TOWN PLAY.

ISO · Post Post #3061 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:39 am

scum could have been told there was an IC in the game
It's not unheard of (Varsoon did it in Steven Universe Mafia)

pieguyn · Post Post #3062 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:40 am

except for the part where the IC dies without revealing, and then the scum who fake claims backup IC is outed as scum.

10/10 SETUP DESIGN

Nahdia · Post Post #3063 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:42 am

I would be more willing to entertain the possibility of pieguyn being scum purely on role speculation if it weren't for the fact that pieguyn is transparently town.

pisskop · Post Post #3064 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:44 am

Thats the mindfuck, pie

pieguyn · Post Post #3065 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:47 am

YOU LITERALLY CANNOT MAKE A SCUM BACKUP IC WITH AN ACTUAL FUCKING IC IN THE GAME. BACKUP IC ONLY WORKS AS SCUM IF THERE IS NO IC IN THE GAME, SINCE IF AN IC DIES IT NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO CONFIRM ITSELF.

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

Nahdia · Post Post #3066 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:49 am

pisskop · Post Post #3067 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:54 am

You can though. Why would you say you cant.

pisskop · Post Post #3068 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:56 am

In post 3066, Nahdia wrote:

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ISO · Post Post #3069 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:57 am

In post 3062, pieguyn wrote:except for the part where the IC dies without revealing, and then the scum who fake claims backup IC is outed as scum.

10/10 SETUP DESIGN

The scum in the scenario I said wouldn't be forced to fake claim backup IC, so it wouldn't really be the setup's fault

pieguyn · Post Post #3070 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:57 am

IC in the game, scum backup IC in the game, IC dies without revealing itself; scum backup IC then gains the ability to reveal itself as "town", which can't happen.

Holy fuck what am I reading.

pieguyn · Post Post #3071 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:00 am

In post 3069, SirCakez wrote:The scum in the scenario I said wouldn't be forced to fake claim backup IC, so it wouldn't really be the setup's fault

it's a completely [[[REDACTED]]] fake claim if scum knows there's an IC in the game, for the same reason that if the IC dies without having revealed it gets outed as scum.

Nahdia · Post Post #3072 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:04 am

Especially if pieguyn is a traitor, meaning they don't have control over their faction's kills, lmao.

ISO · Post Post #3073 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:13 am

In post 3071, pieguyn wrote:
In post 3069, SirCakez wrote:The scum in the scenario I said wouldn't be forced to fake claim backup IC, so it wouldn't really be the setup's fault
it's a completely [[[REDACTED]]] fake claim if scum knows there's an IC in the game, for the same reason that if the IC dies without having revealed it gets outed as scum.

wut
This problem is avoided by just not killing the IC???

pieguyn · Post Post #3074 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:19 am

yes, yes, because forcing yourself to leave conftown alive the entire game or being outed as scum makes so much sense as a scum strategy - and even that is ignoring other factors, i.e. you might kill it on accident without knowing who it is, there might be something like a vig in the game who would kill it on accident, etc.