Incorrect. Utterly and completely incorrect.In post 3271, Nahdia wrote:No, it's not. You're wrong. Objectively.
No shit that a scum flip is good. But voting dataIn post 3274, Kagami wrote:I don't care about voting data, I just want a scum flip.
Gamethrowing: taking actions as a villager that are majorly and irretrievably antitown.In post 3277, Nahdia wrote:You literally don't know the definition of gamethrowing.
I bet you're voting for me aren't you given that opinion. Oh wait you're not.In post 3279, pieguyn wrote:god mhsmith's posts on this page.
if anyone wondered why I was calling him "cagey and defensive", this is why. I'm pretty sure most people are in agreement by now, though.
Extreme suboptimal play = gamethrowing. You're welcome.In post 3280, Nahdia wrote:You're crying about suboptimal play and calling it Gamethrowing. Stop it.
that's outright falseIn post 3283, mhsmith0 wrote:Extreme suboptimal play = gamethrowing. You're welcome.In post 3280, Nahdia wrote:You're crying about suboptimal play and calling it Gamethrowing. Stop it.
Consciously bad play is gamethrowing, yes.In post 3284, MariaR wrote:Gamethrowing: Playing against your wincon
what is the towns wincon? Lynch scum
Is bad play gamethrowing to you smith?
y o u ' r e w r o n gIn post 3287, mhsmith0 wrote:Consciously bad play is gamethrowing, yes.In post 3284, MariaR wrote:Gamethrowing: Playing against your wincon
what is the towns wincon? Lynch scum
Is bad play gamethrowing to you smith?
PS towns wincon is to lynch ALL the scum. Actions that knowingly go against that objective (and vedith's action clearly was that, since even if gamma was scum [he wasn't], it prevented interactions from highlighting potential partners or non-partners) is gamethrowing.
see, if you were town you would realize that I've been complaining that a lot of what's been going on in this game has been unproductive since... practically the start of the game.In post 3267, mhsmith0 wrote:Pie: "Yeah guys this whole thing has just dragged"
Pie then does nothing with/about that statement, whether pushing harder on jester, making an active attempt to dismantle the arguments against shadow-maria wagon, or vote her partner. But sure, it's scummy of me to tell her to actually bother doing something about her complaint instead of just dumping it on the table and leaving it there. Sure it is.
Fake-claiming a role may or may not be gamethrowing depending on the situation. There are times when it borders on it though, and anyone who doens't know what they're doing should be SUPER careful about it, since 90%+ of the time it really hurts town.In post 3286, MariaR wrote:Not game throwing: fake claiming a role to save yourself or fish scum
Game throwing: Posting your role pm or self voting in lylo
I didn't say you should suicide, I said you should be voting me (we're nowhere near 8 votes for a majority right now). Or pushing jester. Or working to dismantle the shadow-maria wagon if you oppose it. Or working harder to identify potential town-town pairs, since you say that's your objective. Empty complaining about the gamestate is still empty. You made an empty complaint about the gamestate, didn't do anything with it, and are now shading me for my reaction without actually voting me.In post 3290, pieguyn wrote:see, if you were town you would realize that I've been complaining that a lot of what's been going on in this game has been unproductive since... practically the start of the game.In post 3267, mhsmith0 wrote:Pie: "Yeah guys this whole thing has just dragged"
Pie then does nothing with/about that statement, whether pushing harder on jester, making an active attempt to dismantle the arguments against shadow-maria wagon, or vote her partner. But sure, it's scummy of me to tell her to actually bother doing something about her complaint instead of just dumping it on the table and leaving it there. Sure it is.
it has nothing to do with me suiciding or not and I think that really is completely obvious from an objective POV. and you would also realize that I have been on record multiple times as saying that debating a singular best lynch is stupid and that it's far more productive to identify pairs that are town and lynch everyone else indiscriminately - you are not reading critically at all if you somehow are making the posts you have been making on this page
At some point, a sufficient level of incompetence is the same thing as gamethrowing. And since there seem to be people here who are actually tempted to embrace that incompetence, I feel motivated to constantly call it gamethrowing so as to make sure they get it through their heads how terrible that play is. But that makes me scum for just pretending to care about it, right?In post 3293, Nahdia wrote:Gamethrowing is about intent you blithering ignoramus.
^ this is also an INCREDIBLY easy strategy for scum to embrace: point out 1-2 "town" pairs (regardless of whether it's correct) "indiscriminately" mislynch a couple times (and with town demotivated from really sorting what's a mislynch vs a good lynch it's easier to pull this off), and then town's up shit creek without a paddleIn post 3290, pieguyn wrote:it's far more productive to identify pairs that are town and lynch everyone else indiscriminately
