DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ
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Lady Lambdadelta She/FaerRise of the PhoenixShe/Faer
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Hey if you're around can you get on Skype or Discord?
I need you to look over the email I'm sending concerning my exam being postponed.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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:/Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Vi Professor Paragon
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...you should be grateful? I mean the whole thread has been high on plutonium; why not try more natural substances.In post 5962, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Vi if you're town and giving me any amount of nip...
Frankly this talk about both of you quitting Mafia and/or deleting your accounts makes me legitimately happy. That's not even a personal attack; it's my desire to see both of you happier people. Have we finally reached a point where people are going to internalize that Mafia is a toxic game? I mean this is DEFCON; everyone was going into this sayingmost enjoyable game yeaaaaahand if this is as good as it gets then frigging etc. Step out of your comfort zones and do something else with your lives.
Yet I'm not going to end your traumas soon, because I'm not hammering GreyICE.
Vote: SpyreX(L-3)
Between the attractiveness of a shot of opportunity on the other Sub, the vote of opportunity on GreyICE, the fact that he's the razor response to the doubled nukes, and the fact that no one alive is as much of a space cadet as hiplop, this is the vote I'd be most fine with getting wrong Today if it is wrong.Everything you say and do matters. People will respond in ways you may never see. May those responses be what you intend.-
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Lady Lambdadelta She/FaerRise of the PhoenixShe/Faer
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Do you think SpyreX is SK?In post 6003, Vi wrote:
...you should be grateful? I mean the whole thread has been high on plutonium; why not try more natural substances.In post 5962, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Vi if you're town and giving me any amount of nip...
Frankly this talk about both of you quitting Mafia and/or deleting your accounts makes me legitimately happy. That's not even a personal attack; it's my desire to see both of you happier people. Have we finally reached a point where people are going to internalize that Mafia is a toxic game? I mean this is DEFCON; everyone was going into this sayingmost enjoyable game yeaaaaahand if this is as good as it gets then frigging etc. Step out of your comfort zones and do something else with your lives.
Yet I'm not going to end your traumas soon, because I'm not hammering GreyICE.
Vote: SpyreX(L-3)
Between the attractiveness of a shot of opportunity on the other Sub, the vote of opportunity on GreyICE, the fact that he's the razor response to the doubled nukes, and the fact that no one alive is as much of a space cadet as hiplop, this is the vote I'd be most fine with getting wrong Today if it is wrong.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Vi Professor Paragon
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It's important to note that the Terrorist should be the target Today. The Terrorist still has at least two kills per cycle, but as importantly, the lone surviving Russian is now boxed in hard. It's not impossible for them to win, but their path to victory goes through
1) GreyICE being endeadened by means other than the factional kill, and
2) being able to survive MagnaofIllusion's Fail Safe, i.e. Moai doesn't reach endgame.
Even if one of them is the remaining Russian, it's still a hem. Moai-as-Russian in particular cannot win this game without GreyICE being lynched or hit by one of the Terrorist's weapons. Meanwhile, tbqh Russia's best play is to hit Moai Tonight while there's still a wide pool of bystanders and pray that the Fail Safe misses them. (Moai dying does not strictly imply that GreyICE is scum, so it's up to Moai who to target.)
So in summary I'm going to chalk up this GreyICE wagon as a not-gonna-happen-Today sort of thing unless people have better reason to buy into him being the SK than SpyreX, and ohh haay is that UT coasting behind LLD on that wagon why yes it is huh I couldn't have imagined UT would be in such a position on a wagon on someone the Russians can't unilaterally killEverything you say and do matters. People will respond in ways you may never see. May those responses be what you intend.-
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Lady Lambdadelta She/FaerRise of the PhoenixShe/Faer
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Yeah ok I totally believe Vi could be scum.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Lady Lambdadelta She/FaerRise of the PhoenixShe/Faer
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Vi talking like GreyICE can still be scum is like watching someone desperately try to cling to the last remnants of hope for their game.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Lady Lambdadelta She/FaerRise of the PhoenixShe/Faer
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GreyICE is either town or SK. End of story.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Ohh vi
I can't believe you're making me do this. Making me meta.
For me to be sk I:
- got excited in sign-ups and explictly said i wanted fate to show up
- saw reck, zito, ut show up and had a tear filled moment of pure happiness
- get sk, be for total war, draft counterintelligence
- proceed to hatefuck all my memories
I play to win, yes. But more so i play to have fun. I came back because of memories not of the victories but the people i enjoyed. In no universe, none, is fate my n1 choice. Ever ever ever.
This is leaving aside gameplay things like
- sabotaging mastin who would clearly have been my secret ally for chaos into
- telling zito i saved him into
- panic? Nuking a sub when id be the only one whod know better.
Yea yea its all wifom if you're drunk but it's not. Not fate. Not ever.-
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So first I want to look at the timing of the Sub Nuke on Papa as opposed to when Spyrex first claimed to have sabotaged Mastin.
3720 is the announcement of the Terrorist Nuke. Andrius’s previous past was 3701. That’s basically a 9 hour window if you consider the Terrorist Nuke was not set to go off at a specific point.
PZ claimed Sub at 3695 after mastin Nuked PZ at 3487. Much later than I remember and means the window between when Papa confirmed he was the Sub and the sub launched was at most 12 hour period.
So even if you accept a Queued up Sub Shot by the Terrorist the window between PZ claiming sub and the Sub’s official firing is at most 12 hours. That’s the window in which it makes any sense for the Terrorist to have actively nuked PZ even if you think they were not paying attention.
Spyrex didn’t officially claim to have sabotaged Mastin until after all this at 4009.
@Spyrex- you can show me if I’m wrong on this …
I don’t think anyone left alive is incompetent enough to have fired of a Terrorist Sub at a target who is already slated for Nuclear Death due to not paying attention. Which means very probably that they felt PZ was enough of a threat to them that it was worth wasting their Defcon3 stealth nuke in case PZ had been Doc protected.
Remaining Living Players that PZ mentioned as scum or “needing death” –
Nahdia – 428, 440, 499, 516, 772, 3303, 3324,3403
UT – 2303
So everyone can feel free to check my time-line on this and debate my analysis but this is quite surprising to me.
And for the record - Nahdia did post at least once during that 12 hour window (3715)."I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.-
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MoI, has your opinion changed about GreyICE being the SK?Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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Nahdia They/ThemScheherazadeThey/Them
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Ah yes, my brilliant master plan as terrorist; pick the framer/lawyer role, explicitly say im picking it, acknowledge early on that there are scenarios under which i will need to be utility nuked. A role that will bait the ACC, which at the time I thought stopped the kill. Yes, brilliant. Man I'm good at mafia.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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I mean,In post 6012, MagnaofIllusion wrote:I don’t think anyone left alive is incompetent enough to have fired of a Terrorist Sub at a target who is already slated for Nuclear Death due to not paying attention. Which means very probably that they felt PZ was enough of a threat to them that it was worth wasting their Defcon3 stealth nuke in case PZ had been Doc protected.maybe. But I don't see why as a terrorist you don't just... wait and see. Zito had already fired his nuke off.
Worth stating again that Fate was screaming for UT's death just before he got murdered. Really, someone should have taken notice of this sooner (or maybe they did & I missed it).we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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Lady Lambdadelta She/FaerRise of the PhoenixShe/Faer
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I can name a player who was decidedly not reading the game at that time.In post 6015, Nahdia wrote:
I mean,In post 6012, MagnaofIllusion wrote:I don’t think anyone left alive is incompetent enough to have fired of a Terrorist Sub at a target who is already slated for Nuclear Death due to not paying attention. Which means very probably that they felt PZ was enough of a threat to them that it was worth wasting their Defcon3 stealth nuke in case PZ had been Doc protected.maybe. But I don't see why as a terrorist you don't just... wait and see. Zito had already fired his nuke off.
Worth stating again that Fate was screaming for UT's death just before he got murdered. Really, someone should have taken notice of this sooner (or maybe they did & I missed it).
His name is GreyICE.Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
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you've already provided the quotes, and no he wasn'tIn post 6015, Nahdia wrote:Worth stating again that Fate was screaming for UT's death just before he got murdered-
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Nahdia They/ThemScheherazadeThey/Them
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I read every Fate post in my head as, at the very least, a moderate "scream".we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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Nahdia They/ThemScheherazadeThey/Them
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Dude is like the Gordon Ramsey of MafiaScum.
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anyway, Nahdia, I really, really, really didn't like Vi's shift onto me after his big text dump
I said this at the time, but "oh, the nuke on mastin was opportunistic" is completely lacking in context or actual reading. it looked to me like he was just grabbing a buzzword to justify voting for a nuke.-
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this post is especially bad because he is trying to argue that I am scum while also simultaneously arguing that I committed the terrorist kill. it's flail.In post 5499, Vi wrote:
you are ropebaitIn post 5496, Untrod Tripod wrote:
so am I the terrorist or am I scum? The fate kill was from the terroristIn post 5488, Vi wrote:People who have medium-term memories: Was there anyoneother than Fatewho wanted Untrod Tripod dead on Day 1?
Doc is the first action that comes to mind. Then again, how would you explain "mining"? Is there necessarily a correlation?LLD 5487 wrote:Vi, if you were to admire someone, from a scum perspective, what kind of action do you think they're taking?
if hiplop flips terrorist then you can more specifically be narrowed down to "Russian"
Martina McBride? You nuked an unmistakably American celebrity????Martina nuke-
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Nahdia They/ThemScheherazadeThey/Them
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