Pick Your Power: Double Deck (GAME OVER)

Vecna · Post Post #2625 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:35 am

Rb had a cop that was active during the night. Going through his iso it appears that he got an inno on his target since the 4 people he wanted to lynch in didnt appear as scumreads that he was very adamant about.

My guess is it was on transcend since he has been defending him rather hard today and been attacking every vote that came his way.

Maxous · Post Post #2626 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:41 am

i didn't even register the cop thing.

so RB's first post of the day was to call Transcend obvtown and vote Kraska for attacking him.

Yeah, the clear is on Transcend.

Bit weird he targeted him given his Day 1 hard-defence of Transcend but I guess RB wasn't as sure as he was pretending he was maybe

Vecna · Post Post #2627 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:43 am

Yeah indeed, I thought so too but theres no other obvious breadcrumbs anywhere indicating an allignment certainty.

MariaR · Post Post #2628 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:47 am

Oh rb was poisoned okay

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2629 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:55 am

In post 2628, MariaR wrote:Oh rb was poisoned okay

VOTE: MariaF

uh?? how did you come to that conclusion??

MariaR · Post Post #2630 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:56 am

Cause he died the next day!

kraska77 · Post Post #2631 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:58 am

scum can kill during the day
ugh idk what to make of this am i really wrong on transcend =(

Vecna · Post Post #2632 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:00 am

At this point I really dont know whether Maria is forcing dumbtells or just townslipped

MariaR · Post Post #2633 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:00 am

In post 2631, kraska77 wrote:scum can kill during the day

Wut?

kraska77 · Post Post #2634 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:01 am

In post 2632, Vecna wrote:At this point I really dont know whether Maria is forcing dumbtells or just townslipped

same =(
maria stop begging for rope if ure town

Vecna · Post Post #2635 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:01 am

Probably the first.....

MariaR · Post Post #2636 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:02 am

I'M NOT ETTEZSTE4YSY4

Titus · Post Post #2637 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:02 am

Spoiler: relevant posts

In post 21, Kison wrote:VOTE: SpyreX

r u a scum

In post 34, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Hey everyone, let's have a good game!

VOTE: Drone

In post 59, Quipla wrote:

DECK x 42 - DISCARD PILE x 0

DAY 1 VOTECOUNT #2

Transcend (4)
- gigabyeTroubadour, kraska77, Creature, Vecna

Creature (4)
- McMenno, MagnaofIllusion, Titus, drealmerz7

SpyreX (1)
- Kison

MariaR (1)
- MariaR

Drone (1)
- Lil Uzi Vert

Not Voting (12)
- rb, Jackel98, Vedith, Transcend, gerryoat, Fishythefish, davesaz, Maxous, Drone, Dunnstral, SpyreX, Vifam

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Deadline is set for (expired on 2016-12-15 18:00:00)

In post 90, Kison wrote:
SpyreX wrote:Kison I'm not ascums areu a scums
No way, I'm the town champ.

UNVOTE: SpyreX
VOTE: MariaR

In post 103, Quipla wrote:

DECK x 42 - DISCARD PILE x 0

DAY 1 VOTECOUNT #3

Creature (4)
- McMenno, MagnaofIllusion, Titus, drealmerz7

Transcend (3)
- gigabyeTroubadour, Creature, Vecna

Kison (3)
- Vifam, kraska77, MariaR

MariaR (2)
- Kison, SpyreX

Drone (1)
- Lil Uzi Vert

Vifam (1)
- davesaz

Not Voting (9)
- rb, Jackel98, Vedith, Transcend, gerryoat, Fishythefish, Maxous, Drone, Dunnstral

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Deadline is set for (expired on 2016-12-15 18:00:00)

In post 118, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Kison's vote reads like RVS silliness to me.

In post 141, Kison wrote:
kraska77 wrote:No i wanna know why kison voted maria
Self vote, nervous & she seems the type to break under pressure. Let's do this.

Creature wagon is weaksauce.

In post 146, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 141, Kison wrote:
kraska77 wrote:No i wanna know why kison voted maria
Self vote, nervous & she seems the type to break under pressure. Let's do this.

Creature wagon is weaksauce.
The self vote pinged me, not sure what to make of it.

Nervousness isn't a scum tell.

In post 378, Quipla wrote:
In post 272, Titus wrote:
Mod: How many cards are in the deck remaining?

42, including the current trump card.

In post 341, Titus wrote:
Mod: What happens if a deck card is a diamond and a player has both a miller and a Godfather?

The abilities contradict each other so neither takes effect.

~~

DECK x 42 - DISCARD PILE x 0

DAY 1 VOTECOUNT #4

Kison (4)
- Vifam, kraska77, MariaR, gigabyeTroubadour

Lil Uzi Vert (3)
- SpyreX, Titus, Fishythefish

MariaR (2)
- Kison, Dunnstral

Transcend (2)
- Vecna, Maxous

Creature (2)
- McMenno, MagnaofIllusion

Dunnstral (2)
- Creature, drealmerz7

Vifam (2)
- davesaz, Lil Uzi Vert

Maxous (1)
- Jackel98

Not Voting (5)
- rb, Vedith, Transcend, gerryoat, Drone

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Deadline is set for (expired on 2016-12-15 18:00:00)

In post 382, Quipla wrote:
Editing the Vote Count Information since it's not obvious that the Trump card is considered in the deck. Also linking the Discard Pile (which currently is empty).

This is the correct distribution of cards. Hopefully this clears up any confusion!

DECK x 41 - TRUMP x 1 - DISCARD PILE x 0

DAY 1 VOTECOUNT #5

Kison (4)
- Vifam, kraska77, MariaR, gigabyeTroubadour

Lil Uzi Vert (3)
- SpyreX, Titus, Fishythefish

MariaR (2)
- Kison, Dunnstral

Transcend (2)
- Vecna, Maxous

Creature (2)
- McMenno, MagnaofIllusion

Dunnstral (2)
- Creature, drealmerz7

Vifam (2)
- davesaz, Lil Uzi Vert

Maxous (1)
- Jackel98

Not Voting (5)
- rb, Vedith, Transcend, gerryoat, Drone

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Deadline is set for (expired on 2016-12-15 18:00:00)

In post 419, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:UNVOTE:

In post 434, Quipla wrote:

DECK x 41 - TRUMP x 1 - DISCARD PILE x 0

DAY 1 VOTECOUNT #6

Kison (3)
- Vifam, kraska77, gigabyeTroubadour

Lil Uzi Vert (3)
- SpyreX, Titus, Fishythefish

Maxous (2)
- Jackel98, Transcend

MariaR (2)
- Kison, Dunnstral

Transcend (2)
- Vecna, Maxous

Creature (2)
- McMenno, MagnaofIllusion

Dunnstral (2)
- Creature, drealmerz7

Vifam (1)
- davesaz

Not Voting (6)
- rb, Vedith, gerryoat, Drone, MariaR, Lil Uzi Vert

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Deadline is set for (expired on 2016-12-15 18:00:00)

In post 521, Quipla wrote:

DECK x 41 - TRUMP x 1 - DISCARD PILE x 0

DAY 1 VOTECOUNT #7

Lil Uzi Vert (5)
- SpyreX, Titus, Fishythefish, Drone, drealmerz7

Kison (3)
- Vifam, kraska77, gigabyeTroubadour

Maxous (2)
- Jackel98, Transcend

MariaR (2)
- Kison, Dunnstral

Transcend (2)
- Vecna, Maxous

Creature (2)
- McMenno, MagnaofIllusion

McMenno (2)
- Vedith, Creature

Vifam (1)
- davesaz

Vedith (1)
- rb

Not Voting (3)
- gerryoat, MariaR, Lil Uzi Vert

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Deadline is set for (expired on 2016-12-15 18:00:00)

In post 529, Quipla wrote:

DECK x 41 - TRUMP x 1 - DISCARD PILE x 0

DAY 1 VOTECOUNT #8

Lil Uzi Vert (5)
- SpyreX, Titus, Fishythefish, Drone, drealmerz7

Kison (3)
- Vifam, kraska77, gigabyeTroubadour

Maxous (2)
- Jackel98, Transcend

MariaR (2)
- Kison, Dunnstral

Transcend (2)
- Vecna, Maxous

Creature (2)
- McMenno, MagnaofIllusion

McMenno (2)
- Vedith, Creature

Vifam (1)
- davesaz

Vedith (1)
- rb

Not Voting (3)
- gerryoat, MariaR, Lil Uzi Vert

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Deadline is set for (expired on 2016-12-15 18:00:00)

In post 625, Kison wrote:Giving this game a proper read.

In post 245, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 238, kraska77 wrote:
In post 232, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
I can't control how others respond to me.
You can control where you take conversations tho.
Indeed and I'm taking it for a ride in hopes of feeling better about Vifam's alignment.
Could you explain exactly what do you mean by "feeling better about Vifam's alignment" ?

In post 640, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
@77:
I think our play styles just don't mesh at this point. I know we have only one completed game together but I think in the future I'm always going to have trouble reading you and vice versa.

Creature:
Why is Drone town?

Kison:
It means to feel less suspicious about someone.

In post 658, Kison wrote:UNVOTE: MariaR
VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

In post 177, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:VOTE: Vifam

This seems okay. I don't buy that he didn't bid, set-up talk is fine considering this isn't a normal game, and his theory about those voting for Maria doesn't make sense.
Why did you place your vote only immediately after Dunnstral (who provided zero reason for doing so)? You posted six times between your vote and when Vifam last posted, but never mentioned him once.

In post 625, Kison wrote:
In post 245, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 238, kraska77 wrote:
In post 232, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
I can't control how others respond to me.
You can control where you take conversations tho.
Indeed and I'm taking it for a ride in hopes of feeling better about Vifam's alignment.
Could you explain exactly what do you mean by "feeling better about Vifam's alignment" ?

In post 640, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Kison:
It means to feel less suspicious about someone.
Seems like a weird mindset for town. I'd expect that you'd hope for the exact opposite and that your vote is in the right place.

In post 675, Quipla wrote:

DECK x 41 - TRUMP x 1 - DISCARD PILE x 0

DAY 1 VOTECOUNT #9

Lil Uzi Vert (5)
- SpyreX, Titus, Fishythefish, drealmerz7, Kison

Transcend (5)
- Vecna, Maxous, kraska77, Dunnstral, McMenno

Vedith (2)
- gigabyeTroubadour, davesaz

Maxous (2)
- Jackel98, Transcend

Kison (1)
- Creature

McMenno (1)
- Vedith

Creature (1)
- MagnaofIllusion

davesaz (1)
- rb

Drone (1)
- Vifam

Not Voting (4)
- gerryoat, MariaR, Lil Uzi Vert, Drone

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Deadline is set for (expired on 2016-12-15 18:00:00)

In post 681, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 648, Drone wrote:Uzi you have reasons to suspect me?
Not at the moment.

In post 658, Kison wrote:UNVOTE: MariaR
VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

In post 177, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:VOTE: Vifam

This seems okay. I don't buy that he didn't bid, set-up talk is fine considering this isn't a normal game, and his theory about those voting for Maria doesn't make sense.
Why did you place your vote only immediately after Dunnstral (who provided zero reason for doing so)? You posted six times between your vote and when Vifam last posted, but never mentioned him once.

In post 625, Kison wrote:
In post 245, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 238, kraska77 wrote:
In post 232, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
I can't control how others respond to me.
You can control where you take conversations tho.
Indeed and I'm taking it for a ride in hopes of feeling better about Vifam's alignment.
Could you explain exactly what do you mean by "feeling better about Vifam's alignment" ?

In post 640, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Kison:
It means to feel less suspicious about someone.
Seems like a weird mindset for town. I'd expect that you'd hope for the exact opposite and that your vote is in the right place.
Not really sure what you're getting at with that question. Are you implying that I sheeped Dunn?

Why is it weird? I think it's normal for one to feel unsure.

In post 725, Quipla wrote:

DECK x 41 - TRUMP x 1 - DISCARD PILE x 0

DAY 1 VOTECOUNT #10

Transcend (6)
- Vecna, Maxous, kraska77, Dunnstral, McMenno, MariaR

Lil Uzi Vert (5)
- SpyreX, Titus, Fishythefish, drealmerz7, Kison

Vedith (2)
- gigabyeTroubadour, davesaz

Maxous (2)
- Jackel98, Transcend

SpyreX (1)
- Creature

McMenno (1)
- Vedith

Creature (1)
- MagnaofIllusion

davesaz (1)
- rb

Drone (1)
- Vifam

Not Voting (3)
- gerryoat, Lil Uzi Vert, Drone

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Deadline is set for (expired on 2016-12-15 18:00:00)

In post 764, Kison wrote:I'm well aware of the wagon on him. I reviewed every player separately in isolation and he was slimiest. The two points I honed in on I either hadn't seen covered or I provided more detail.

In post 760, Maxous wrote:eh, i did feel kison's vote on uzi was a bit off.

felt like he was being overly semantic

/ 2 cents
It's not awkward wording(there is a reason I asked), but rather the intention he was claiming to have when placing the vote. Smells like scum excuse more than genuine town vote.

Uzi Uzi Vert wrote:Are you implying that I sheeped Dunn?
Yep

In post 931, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
@Creature:
Your list of suspects for who's scum on both mine and Transcend's wagons is about the same as mine. Kison's push on me is very nonsensical and it's interesting to note how quickly he abandoned Maria for me. McMenno's hop on Transcend was the most suspicious in my opinion and I didn't really like his 666.

@Dunn:
What is it that's pinging you about Jack? Excluding setup talk, his reads seem genuine and his questioning of cases feels town.

@Kison:
I don't see how you think I sheeped Dunn. I had reasons for my vote, he didn't.

Titus
, you haven't actually said why you think I'm scum, you just bolded some words, voted me, and then moved on.

In post 1296, Kison wrote:Alright. Catchup from the mostly-garbage that is the last 20 pages.

In post 779, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 768, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: Jackel98

Don't let this guy slip by
I believe this warrants a response

Dunnstral wrote:Let's examine Jackel98's iso.

Drone wrote:What do you guys think of Jackel98?
His posts seem fine to me. Is your sole reason for voting him that he has a low post count?

In post 799, MariaR wrote:VOTE: Drone
Is this a wagon? Well it is now

MariaR wrote:When I came back to check the thread the first thing I saw was transcend with a ton of votes so I joined it for the fun of it
Had no idea why he was wagoned but joined anyway.
Okay. I don't now anyone in this game except SpyreX and I can clearly see the average playstyle on this site has degraded into something resembling a middle school gym class, so I need to ask this: is this how Maria typically plays? Not giving a single crap and just doing everything on a whim? There are others who seem to play like this but she's the one who is caching my eye the most.

Vecna's 905 is :goodposting: Clearly spent a lot of time reading the game in detail to catch up and actually looking for scum. More of this.

Maxous wrote:even if Transcend did use a random generator to pick his cards...if he seen something like a cop disabler come out in the results would he not think to himself "hmm...that would be bad for town, let me just randomise my cards again until i get a better result"

because if he's town and didn't even do a basic check that his cards weren't anti-town.... then wow?

Creature wrote:Then idk what was his motivation.
Having thought about this a bit(and I think others have said similar), the big problem I have with the random card pick claim is not so much whether it's true, it's that it's far more beneficial for scum to make that claim than town. If he's seen to have sketch ass cards in his hands, all he has to do is say "lol i didn't pick those" and that's that.

Vedith wrote:I believe Trans on picking at random.
Why?

Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Kison's push on me is very nonsensical and it's interesting to note how quickly he abandoned Maria for me.
My Maria vote wasn't very serious.

Vecna wrote:Ill fight Kison over it anyday.
Settle down, Beavis

SpyreX wagon: Terrible. Good lord, if you start a wagon at least try to convince people why they should join it.

Drone wrote:Is Kison always non existent?
Yes. 50 pages of mostly spam in 48 hours is not common in the time period I played(this is my first game in 4 and a half years). You, and anyone else who has a problem with that, will have to deal with the fact that I don't have 20 hours a day to spend posting worthless one-lined blather. Because it will not change.

I'm happy with my Uzi vote. He is not taking a stance on anything.
Uzi: Who is scum? Why? Why are you not voting anyone?

I could be persuaded to switch to Maria. I'd have to look at Vedith, didn't really see a ton there last I looked. SpyreX and Jackel wagons are crap.

In post 1309, Quipla wrote:
In post 1219, Jackel98 wrote:@Mod: Will the end of Morning be announced in-thread?

No, it won't. Gotta do the timestamp math!

~~

DECK x 41 - TRUMP x 1 - DISCARD PILE x 0

DAY 1 VOTECOUNT #18

Vedith (4)
- davesaz, rb, gigabyteTroubadour, Jackel98

Lil Uzi Vert (4)
- SpyreX, Fishythefish, Kison, MagnaofIllusion

MariaR (3)
- Creature, Vecna, Dunnstral

Jackel98 (3)
- Maxous, krasa77, Vedith

SpyreX (3)
- Titus, Transcend, Drone

Drone (2)
- Vifam, MariaR

rb (1)
- drealmerz7

Transcend (1)
- McMenno

Not Voting (2)
- gerryoat, Lil Uzi Vert

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Deadline is set for (expired on 2016-12-15 18:00:00)

In post 1326, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
@Fish:
I can link you to one of my completed scum games if you would like.

@Kison:
What? It most definitely was. You voted for her and explained why without any signs of joking that I and I'm sure everyone else can see in your 141.

As for reads, I've decided to take a different approach this game and just town hunt. I did not expect to have such a difficult time but I guess I'm not ready to handle large games. Starting to think this will be first and last large game for a while.

I'm town reading Creature, Fish, Giga, and rb,

Very worried about Maria, McMemmo, and Vecna.

Scum reading you right now

VOTE: Kison

@Magna:
A bit. Doesn't seem like a solid reasoning to join considering that you haven't read.

@Titus:
Wow, we weren't on the same page at all. I'm a bit disappointed now. Thought you were hinting at the Inventory card. Also again, what creeps you out about me?

In post 1921, Kison wrote:
In post 1918, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:also why is jackel selfvoting
Looks like an error. Last vote I see him making is on Vedith.

In post 2075, Quipla wrote:

DECK x 42 - TRUMP x 1 - DISCARD PILE x 0

DAY 1 VOTECOUNT #28

Lil Uzi Vert (5)
- SpyreX, Fishythefish, Kison, milkshake, Titus

Transcend (5)
- McMenno, gigabyteTroubadour, kraska77, Maxous, Jackel98

Drone (4)
- Vifam, MariaR, Vedith, Transcend

Vedith (3)
- davesaz, gerryoat, rb

Jackel98 (1)
- Vecna

rb (1)
- drealmerz7

milkshake (1)
- Creature

MariaR (1)
- Drone

Not Voting (2)
Dunnstral, Lil Uzi Vert

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Deadline is set for (expired on 2016-12-15 18:00:00)

In post 2130, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:VOTE: Drone

Going to ISO Dave, Dunn, Gerry, Jack, and Max so I can get a better read on them.

In post 2200, Quipla wrote:

DECK x 42 - TRUMP x 1 - DISCARD PILE x 0

DAY 1 VOTECOUNT #30

Drone (9)
- Vifam, MariaR, Vedith, Transcend, Titus, Vecna, gigabyteTroubadour, Fishythefish, Lil Uzi Vert

Transcend (5)
- McMenno, kraska77, Maxous, Jackel98, gerryoat

Lil Uzi Vert (3)
- SpyreX, Kison, milkshake

Vedith (1)
- davesaz

Vecna (1)
- Creature

rb (1)
- drealmerz7

MariaR (1)
- Drone

Not Voting (2)
Dunnstral, rb

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Deadline is set for (expired on 2016-12-15 18:00:00)

In post 2231, Quipla wrote:

DECK x 42 - TRUMP x 1 - DISCARD PILE x 0

DAY 1 VOTECOUNT #31

Drone (11)
- Vifam, MariaR, Vedith, Titus, Vecna, gigabyteTroubadour, Fishythefish, Lil Uzi Vert, milkshake, kraska77, Transcend

Transcend (4)
- McMenno, Maxous, Jackel98, gerryoat

Lil Uzi Vert (2)
- SpyreX, Kison

Vedith (1)
- davesaz

Vecna (1)
- Creature

rb (1)
- drealmerz7

MariaR (1)
- Drone

Not Voting (2)
Dunnstral, rb

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Deadline is set for (expired on 2016-12-15 18:00:00)

In post 2291, Quipla wrote:

DECK x 42 - TRUMP x 1 - DISCARD PILE x 0

DAY 1 VOTECOUNT #32

Drone (12)
- Vifam, MariaR, Vedith, Titus, Vecna, gigabyteTroubadour, Fishythefish, Lil Uzi Vert, milkshake, kraska77, Transcend, McMenno

Transcend (3)
- Maxous, Jackel98, gerryoat

Lil Uzi Vert (2)
- SpyreX, Kison

Vedith (1)
- davesaz

Vecna (1)
- Creature

rb (1)
- drealmerz7

MariaR (1)
- Drone

Not Voting (2)
Dunnstral, rb

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Deadline is set for (expired on 2016-12-15 18:00:00)

Drone was lynched Day 1. He was a
Townie
with the following cards:

In post 2370, Kison wrote:VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

Looking through all the Drone voters individually right now. Wagon sprang up from nowhere extremely quickly.

In post 2429, Kison wrote:I believe this is an accurate & succinct timeline of the Drone wagon:

01) Dec 04 10:48 -
Vifam
: First on the wagon, dislikes his hop on the Uzi wagon (
here
).
02) Dec 07 10:07 -
MariaR
: Places vote 2 minutes after Drone votes her. First voted him
Dec 05
, later explainining she didn't like his iso
here
.
03) Dec 07 10:29 -
Vedith
:
Found it weird
that Drone voted MariaR while supporting the Uzi wagon, which was leading at the time.
04) Dec 07 11:28 -
Transcend
: Hated Drone's MariaR vote. Was pushing Drone pretty consistently throughout the day. Only solid reason given is
here
.
05) Dec 07 12:27 -
Titus
: First scum read I can find is
Dec 06
. Has in scum list again on
Dec 06
. Wants either Drone or Kison wagon again
Dec 06
. "Drone's scum"
Dec 07
. Votes later Dec 07.
06) Dec 07 12:55 -
Creature
: "Bah whatever" - just following Titus. Had been calling Drone town earlier.
07) Dec 07 13:05 -
Vecna
: "Finally something sensible. Id join a Drone wagon." First suspicion on
Dec 05
for white knighting Transcend. Reaffirms willingness to join Drone wagon
here
.
08) Dec 07 13:47 -
gigabyteTroubadour
: I think following Titus as well. No reason given. On
Dec 06
, had Drone in "willing to wagon due to scumreading/nullreading:" category, and
later that day
says "i've completely ignored drone though not going to lie"
09) Dec 07 16:47 -
Fishythefish
: First mentions Drone in the same post he votes. Thinks iso is scummy, not attempting genuine reads, not following up on suspicions, trying to look busy.
10) Dec 07 16:49 -
Lil Uzi Vert
: No reason given here. He had doubts about Drone scum
Dec 05
. On
Dec 07
, he had a "Null scum" read on him, which he clarified a bit
here
.
11) Dec 07 16:53 -
rb
: Had doubts that Drone was scum
here
. No objection to Drone wagon
here
.
10) Dec 07 16:56 -
Creature
: Unvotes.
09) Dec 07 16:57 -
rb
: Unvotes, wants time to sort stuff out, has bad feeling about the wagon
here
.
10) Dec 08 13:33 -
milkshake
: Second post after replacing in. "Just voting the player with the most votes for now. I know he was at L-1 a little while ago. Was that a bad thing? ^_^" MoI had previously been on Drone for going after less active players.
11) Dec 08 13:39 -
kraska77
: Floated the idea of voting him as early as
Dec 05
. Has him as "lean scum" again on
Dec 05
. Did not like the idea of wagoning Drone on
Dec 07
, "no but wagoning him doesnt feel right ... and transcends been genuinely trying to fling shit there the most so my guess is drone's probably town"
11) Dec 08 15:04 -
Transcend
: Fake hammer - was already voting.
12) Dec 08 17:16 -
McMenno
: No reason given. Only real drone interaction I see is
here
.

I still need to look at everyone who
didn't
participate in the wagon, but I find several things intriguing here, so I will have some followup later.

In post 2475, Quipla wrote:

DECK x 41 - TRUMP x 1 - DISCARD PILE x 7

DAY 2 VOTECOUNT #4

Transcend (5)
- McMenno, gigabyteTroubadour, kraska77, gerryoat, Jackel98

Lil Uzi Vert (4)
- drealmerz7, Fishythefish, Kison, MariaR

Jackel98 (3)
- rb, SpyreX, Dunnstral

Maxous (3)
- Titus, Transcend, Vedith

milkshake (1)
- Maxous

kraska77 (1)
- milkshake

gerryoat (1)
- Vecna

Not Voting (3)
- davesaz, Lil Uzi Vert, Vifam

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Deadline is set for (expired on 2016-12-19 13:01:49)

In post 2495, Kison wrote:These two Drone votes looked worst to me:

In post 2240, kraska77 wrote:He's flipping town
i just got lonely voting scum
I hadn't noticed this when I made my last post. Your vote already looked bizarre due to the "drone's probably town" comment that you made beforehand. Please explain this to me, because I don't at all understand why you'd vote someone you thought would flip town with no deadline urgency.

UNVOTE: Lil Uzi Vert
VOTE: Kraska77

In post 2202, milkshake wrote:So somebody put that Alpha Deck Rig card on top of the deck?

VOTE: Drone

Just voting the player with the most votes for now. I know he was at L-1 a little while ago. Was that a bad thing? ^_^
Did you have any suspicion at all that Drone was scum when you cast this vote? It looks like you hadn't read a lick of the game and had no opinion one way or the other.

McMenno's hammer also was also bad considering he had one minor interaction with Drone all day.

In post 2522, Quipla wrote:

DECK x 41 - TRUMP x 1 - DISCARD PILE x 7

DAY 2 VOTECOUNT #5

Transcend (4)
- McMenno, kraska77, gerryoat, Jackel98

Jackel98 (4)
- rb, SpyreX, Dunnstral, davesaz

Maxous (2)
- Titus, Vedith

kraska77 (2)
- milkshake, Kison

Lil Uzi Vert (2)
- drealmerz7, MariaR

drealmerz7 (1)
- Transcend

Titus (1)
- Maxous

gerryoat (1)
- Vecna

Not Voting (4)
- Lil Uzi Vert, Vifam, Fishythefish, gigabyteTroubadour

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Deadline is set for (expired on 2016-12-19 13:01:49)

In post 2614, Quipla wrote:
ATTENTION TOWNIES, rb has been killed Day 2. He was a
Townie
with the following cards:

~~

DECK x 41 - TRUMP x 1 - DISCARD PILE x 10

DAY 2 VOTECOUNT #6

Jackel98 (3)
- SpyreX, Dunnstral, davesaz

Transcend (2)
- McMenno, Jackel98

Maxous (2)
- Titus, Vedith

kraska77 (2)
- milkshake, Kison

Lil Uzi Vert (2)
- drealmerz7, gerryoat

MariaR (2)
- kraska77, Vecna

drealmerz7 (1)
- Transcend

Titus (1)
- Maxous

Vedith (1)
- MariaR

Not Voting (4)
- Lil Uzi Vert, Vifam, Fishythefish, gigabyteTroubadour

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Deadline is set for (expired on 2016-12-19 13:01:49)

Ok, we look at Kison interactions with Lil Uzi. He's always in the middle of the wagon, with very little follow through or consistency. Kison jumps on Uzi initially after no interaction with him after hoping Maria would break.

He says that Uzi is where we should look after Uzi's wagon takes off but changes his mind to Kraska when that takes off. Kison does IioA rather than sorting. Uzi also isn't having follow through to sort Kison back.

kraska77 · Post Post #2638 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:03 am

In post 2635, Vecna wrote:Probably the first.....

im not making anything of her last few posts because thats how she fooled me before

Maxous · Post Post #2639 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:04 am

so both Creature and RB wanted Jackel dead didn't they?
as if I needed a whole pile more reasons

VOTE: Jackel98

In post 2631, kraska77 wrote:scum can kill during the day
ugh idk what to make of this am i really wrong on transcend =(

hmm
we'll see
i was town-reading you but this kill and cop-clear makes you look worse than anybody else

i'll look back at the Transcend wagons later..possibly 2moro morning.

leaving the vote on Jackel in the meantime

MariaR · Post Post #2640 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:04 am

In post 2638, kraska77 wrote:
In post 2635, Vecna wrote:Probably the first.....
im not making anything of her last few posts because thats how she fooled me before

? o-o

Vifam · Post Post #2641 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:06 am

What's the case on Jackel

Titus · Post Post #2642 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:13 am

Look his ISO

Vecna · Post Post #2643 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:15 am

That he's a weaksauce drone #2

Vecna · Post Post #2644 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:18 am

Titus, you still think Kison/LUV are scum together?

davesaz · Post Post #2645 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:22 am

VOTE: MariaR

Trying to fake reasons that RB wasn't a scumkill. There's a big difference between being uninformed and trying to look like uninformed, this is the latter.

MariaR · Post Post #2646 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:26 am

In post 2645, davesaz wrote:VOTE: MariaR

Trying to fake reasons that RB wasn't a scumkill. There's a big difference between being uninformed and trying to look like uninformed, this is the latter.

Na friend I thought he was vigged cause he died at day x)

Titus · Post Post #2647 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:30 am

In post 2644, Vecna wrote:Titus, you still think Kison/LUV are scum together?

Yes. I also think Jackal is scum.

Vecna · Post Post #2648 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:31 am

In post 2647, Titus wrote:
In post 2644, Vecna wrote:Titus, you still think Kison/LUV are scum together?
Yes. I also think Jackal is scum.

How do you feel about maria's posting on this page? Still think shes town?

kraska77 · Post Post #2649 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:32 am

so i am going to keep quiet about my transcend suspicions from now on because rb might have copped him. but im not writing him off as innocent. rb not dropping words like "im certain transcends town" gives me doubt....bc rb knows he's prone to early nightkills anyway i dont see why he'd be vague about this

In post 0, Quipla wrote:Jackel98
MariaR

Vedith

kraska77

Titus

milkshake MagnaofIllusion
Transcend

gerryoat

Fishythefish

davesaz
Kison

gigabyteTroubadour

Maxous

drealmerz7

Vecna

Dunnstral

SpyreX

McMenno
Lil Uzi Vert

Vifam

that leaves jackel, maria, milkshake, transcend who im going to ignore, dave, kison, dunn, menno, lil uzi

ordering these i guess my lynch preference is:
scum: maria, menno
lean scum: jackel
lean town but have done things that made me go hmm today: kison, dunn, milkshake
null: dave(only reason dave's not in lean scum is i dont feel he makes much sense with as a maria buddy), lil uzi

everyone else i have a decent to strong townread on