Mini 1859: D&D Curse of Strahd Mafia - Game Over

[KuroiXHF]

Work sucks. V la until monday

[SlySly]

Sly, considering your're at least slightly scum reading Creature based on your posts, why unvote Pine and not vote Creature?

I am running on gut so far in this game.

I have been very preoccupied with some RL things the last 3 or 4 days and have only casually been keeping up. I need to review things. My vote could very well return to Pine after I review things and see what's he's offered up since I first voted him. Without a little review, I'm not remembering all the reasoning behind my vote on Pine at the moment, but I know there was a good reason. I know I picked up a slight buddying between him and Shaziro in earlier round, and something about his claim was fishy or didn't add up, and I remember wanting to leave him for a vig but then he said he could self heal. I need to review and catch up on him. If you need to assume my vote is somewhere right now, consider it still on Pine.

I don't think Creature's worthy of a vote yet. The attention he's drawn from me is from fluffing post count with trash and his, at the very least, slight tunneling on me. Not necessarily scummy. Scum and town are both frequently guilty of fluffing the thread with garbage, and he's already stated that his thoughts on me could just be confbias. Being the target of confbias is the norm for me on this site.

[shaddowez]

I'll try to get everything, let me know if I missed anything.

culted is probably my strongest town read, for multiple reasons. I could be totally off on my first reason, but I don't think scum!Vedith would have replaced out like he did. His tunnel on Shaz seems to be legitimately trying to get motivation and reasoning, and unless this is Scum theater, I don't see this as SvS. (Still trying to decide if I think it's SvT or TvT though).

Lastly, the fact he's willing to ask if he's just dumbtunneling or not isn't something I see town doing

.

this part of this post seems off to me-

can you break it down a little more for me shad? what is the 1st reason that you think you could be totally off on for your TR on culted? why don't you think scum!vedith would replace out like he did?

I'm not sure I understand your first question, but if anything gives me pause about my townread it's his voting pattern. He seems to vote first and follow up with reasons/questions later, which could be biding time/waiting for people to question his reads/votes. However, he always seems to have legitimate reasons and followthrough, so it doesn't really ping me as scum. As for Vedith, I'm pretty sure it was your comments that caused the replace out. I think scum!Vedith would have just become more aggressive and tried to get you out of the game, whereas town!Vedith would be more likely to just get aggravated and leave. I honestly don't know him that well, but it's kinda the vibe I get from other games I've been in with him.

and another reason you're TRing him is because he's tunneling shaz, you say scum theater and so you must be scum-reading shaz (why?) , but then you go on with your parenthetical side-statment and...

it just stinks of ...stink! (you're still trying to decide though!) ? really off!

I'm slightly scum reading Shaz here, but not enough to give a firm read. Pretty much the only way I could see culted as scum here is if they are both scum, which I'm not sure about.

and the underlined part, I couldn't find the dumbtunnel comment - who made it? can you link it? in fact, when you do a little catchup like this and refer to things that stimulate your thoughts, can you link them too? it makes following your thoughts easier

Sorry, he said "bad tunnel", not "dumb tunnel". It was in 406.

I'm guessing you mean shaz is you who mean since you "don't see town asking that" ? and in your paragraph culted is your TR who you agree with because of how they're going after shaz (which isn't scum theater...parenthsis...), but, okay so, why don't you see town asking if they're dumbtunneling?

That should've said scum, not town. I changed how I phrased the comment but forgot to change that. Original quote was:

I don't see him tunneling town like that and then asking if it's dumbtunneling

and then

My other scum lean right now is Jason, he seems to be trying to hide behind the source material. Shaz is doing the same thing, but the key difference to me is how they acted in regard to the amulet once that came into play.

wait, so, now you're not reading shaz as scummy as jason?

I'm really confused, and I know I'm not like "with it" as everyone else, but, am I missing something?

No, I'm not reading them

as scummy

as each other. I see the potential for both shaz and Jason to be hiding behind the theme, which is scummy since there's a lot more of that than actual gamesolving as far as I can tell. However, Jason's other actions actually have me scum reading him, whereas I wouldn't be willing to vote Shaz yet but am watching him.

[Andrius]

I had a bigger post which got lost so my commentary for the first 1I pages is now MIA.

Town
Sly
Pine
Shaziro
Kuror0
Drealm
Dunnstral

Culted
Shadow


Scum
Creature
Jason
Kuroixhf
Persivul

I'm really not seeing the Pine Scum thing.
There's a lot of spec forming around the item and pine and it needs to stop.
Lynching him because he has it is stupid. Lynching it to get it to a townie is stupid because we can't know his alignment before death and we can't guarantee that the recipient is Town. Its a stupid argument.

I was going to toss shadow into a town like but then he voted pine.

He's a Miller claim. Proper protocol is a vig shot. If he's still alive tomorrow, I'm down to lynch him.

Does this sound non-genuine to anyone else?

VOTE: Pine I'll park this here until someone better comes along.

Your posts sound non genuine, yes.

I didn't pay attention to the post, tbh. I saw googled and figured he was repeating himself.

And here we are bickering over a trifle again.

Feel like kuroi's reaction to getting policy voted was kinda flaccid? Like does he scumread me for it or is he just pissed?
Kinda feel like he's pushing creature for nai/surfacey things while there's already a smidgen of hype there? Scummy.

Agreed.

Agree with drealmerz that Persivul's 503 is terrible.

VOTE: drealmerz

Why this over kuroixhf or Persivul?

Creature is definitely inflating his post count here. I'm not sure what to make of it other than Scum.

[Andrius]

Sly I'm willing to vote any of my scumreads who do you want to die first?

VOTE: Jasonwazza
Until Sly and I sort out what we're gonna do.
And Pine. I owe him anyway for saving my bacon in the werewolf game.

[Andrius]

Jason I basically thought your earlygame stuff was terrible. Your entrance was bad and the spec was bad.

When I'm not mobile I might provide better words but typing on my mobile is frustrating.

[drealmerz7]

your scumlist is similar to mine andrius

I could vote jason or creature if interest doesn't grow on persivul, kuroi is nullscum below them in suspicion intensity for me atm

[Shaziro]

I highly recommend the Creature wagon, we're accepting all votes!

[drealmerz7]

@shaz - how's he scummier than what persivul's been presenting all game? 90% of persivul's posts are framing things and pushing an agenda based on a bad framing

creature does have like, 90%+ of scummyshitempty posts but, that's not as severe to me as ^

[Andrius]

I highly recommend the Creature wagon, we're accepting all votes!

What are your thought ps on Persivul?
I realize my mobile posting means I don't have a lot of reads for things but still interested in your thoughts.

[Shaziro]

I really just haven't been getting any real scumpings in my gut from Persivul, as bad as that sounds, and I'm more sure of Creature. I let him get by on a "Maybe maybe not" in my newbie game despite being pretty damn sure he was scum, I'm not making the same mistake twice.

[drealmerz7]

and no scumpings in your brain either? hmmmm...

[Shaziro]

I feel like he's made some decent points, such as his criticisms of Pine's semi BP claim and of Creature's play.

[Andrius]

See the BP claim isn't a BP claim and its straight up Pine.
I mean. I see where has coming from but it just sounds like scum making a big fru fru over nothing.

[drealmerz7]

See the BP claim isn't a BP claim and its straight up Pine.
I mean. I see where has coming from but it just sounds like scum making a big fru fru over nothing.

exactly

I barely even know pine and that is how I feel about it with him

he played it OK for how it went, like he said

I don't have him as high a TR as you at all, but that is what I see pers doing, with whatever he can find to do it with

[Shaziro]

I don't know Pine from Adam. Can you confirm that A: That is in line with his normal town meta and B: Persivul should know it?

I think Pine is town too, but I think the criticism is a legitimate one that I expect to come from town rather than a made up one from scum.

[Persivul]

Agree with drealmerz that Persivul's 503 is terrible.

Why? Do you even understand the context of the post?

[Pine]

@Shaziro - As far as I know, Persivul and I have never played together, so B is a no.

[KuroiXHF]

To clarify, Andrius, you're saying that it's my posts that are coming across non-genuious?

[KuroiXHF]

*genuine. My god, am I tired.

[Andrius]

Agree with drealmerz that Persivul's 503 is terrible.

Why? Do you even understand the context of the post?

Yes

To clarify, Andrius, you're saying that it's my posts that are coming across non-genuious?

And yes

[Clumsy]

Lynch Votecount 1.5

(3) Pine - Shaddowez, KuroiXHF, Dunnstral
(3) drealmerz7 - JasonWazza, Culted, Persivul
(2) Creature - Shaziro, Drealmerz7
(2) JasonWazza - Pine, Andrius
(1) KuroiXHF - Creature

Not Voting:

kuror0, SlySly

With 13 alive, Majority (50%+1) is 7.

Day One Deadline is

(expired on 2016-12-16 19:00:00)

Mod notes: KuroiXHF and Kuror0 on V/LA until the 12th.

[Dunnstral]

I think Andrius is a towny

[Dunnstral]

Creature wagon is bad

[Dunnstral]

[/v]Drealmerz7[/v]

Don't like that pine is voting jason though