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Grey is scum and while he is technically voting for kenyan, I wouldn't say he's adament about lynching him w/o question.In post 603, Tywin Lannister wrote:Here's my one issue with Keyen. Absolutely everyone has been more than adamant/willing to lynch him without question. Not a single person besides me has really even questioned it, and I know I'm town. That means scum most likely are all aboard the Keyen wagon, and that's where it makes me not like it. Keyen just seems like the 'easiest' option, but that doesn't make him town or scum. Regardless, scum love easy lynches that nobody questions. It gives no information if Keyen flips town, because absolutely all of you were eager to join his wagon.
The 2 of them have pretty much ignored eachother throughout the game despite being them both being popular wagons. Grey made his claim and I think it was pretty obvious that the votes were gonna move to keyen so it's not like he had much of a choice w/ who he could vote for.
So then all you need is one of the more lurkier people (Dave/The Vijar slot/etc...) to be the third scum and your concern about scum possibly sitting on an easy lynch is moot.-
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so much this.In post 652, JarJarDrinks wrote:Grey is scum and while he is technically voting for kenyan, I wouldn't say he's adament about lynching him w/o question.
The 2 of them have pretty much ignored eachother throughout the game despite being them both being popular wagons. Grey made his claim and I think it was pretty obvious that the votes were gonna move to keyen so it's not like he had much of a choice w/ who he could vote for.-
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what is the point of this postIn post 652, JarJarDrinks wrote:
Grey is scum and while he is technically voting for kenyan, I wouldn't say he's adament about lynching him w/o question.In post 603, Tywin Lannister wrote:Here's my one issue with Keyen. Absolutely everyone has been more than adamant/willing to lynch him without question. Not a single person besides me has really even questioned it, and I know I'm town. That means scum most likely are all aboard the Keyen wagon, and that's where it makes me not like it. Keyen just seems like the 'easiest' option, but that doesn't make him town or scum. Regardless, scum love easy lynches that nobody questions. It gives no information if Keyen flips town, because absolutely all of you were eager to join his wagon.
The 2 of them have pretty much ignored eachother throughout the game despite being them both being popular wagons. Grey made his claim and I think it was pretty obvious that the votes were gonna move to keyen so it's not like he had much of a choice w/ who he could vote for.
So then all you need is one of the more lurkier people (Dave/The Vijar slot/etc...) to be the third scum and your concern about scum possibly sitting on an easy lynch is moot.<Embrace The Void>
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Cause Tywin doesn't like the keyen lynch cause he's nervous about it being too easy of a lynch which is often an indicator that it's a mislych. I'm showing how that isn't necessarily the case here.In post 654, Gamma Emerald wrote:what is the point of this post-
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I also don't think it's fair to say that keyen is an easy lynch, because outside of the early RVS wagon which really doesn't mean anything, he hasn't been close to getting lynched. i also don't agree that absolutely everyone has been willing to vote/lynch keyen. if that was the case keyen would have way more votes on him atm.
-gear- - says keyen is not a town read, votes keyen after he claims - that's basically it. the vote is a throwaway. probably thinks he can derail the keyen wagon by being on it
Gamma - said recently that he would vote keyen but only after somebody explained a case, before that he really doesn't give much on him
gear - sort of came to keyen's defense early on. hasn't really done much of anything the rest of the game
Jarjar - been calling keyen scum for a while.
Uzi - 279 - says he is unsure of him, can't see motivation for either alignment
Dave - says he thinks keyen is probably town
Rask - been calling keyen scum for a while
ssbm - early on said he would be willing to lynch him, but now thinks he is being set up
tywin - defending keyen the hardest probably, but reacted poorly when suggested he could be scum with keyen
Vij - wasn't scum reading keyen
so looking at this, maybe 3/4 of the 13 players are adamant about lynching key, the rest are either unsure or defending him so Tywin's assertion is completely off base-
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Gamma
Gear
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Grey
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Vijara
keyenpy
Two tier suspect pool atm. Out of 6 others, gamma and vijarada have the hard stance defending keyen.
ATM dave is more nullish now than earlier giving he's keeping up the style, though his stance went from "keyen is either scum or people are cautious" to "keyen prob town gray scum" and with gut being the reasoning this is still open. Gear was kind of weird wanting the flashwagon than saying he should be treated carefully but that's still weird even for partners and I don't mind gear outside of that.
Vijarada initially joined the wagon and unvoted because he seems genuine but disagrees with gear and says he shouldn't be treated carefully because of the perfect scum win they had together. Push on dave is on the logic that dave was trying to mislynch keyen though so the read is at least consistent. Although I'm not sure how keyen's joke-read fits in here.
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Shitty reaction IMO.In post 41, keyenpeydee wrote:Wuz with dis random wagon lol
"lol" = "Look guys, I'm not even worried"
Here I show how examples of how keyen is not reading posts.
This shows he's not invested in the game which is how lots of people play as scum.In post 176, JarJarDrinks wrote:
Yup.In post 138, gerryoat wrote:
If you read someone saying you were scummy, how do you not know who said it?In post 137, keyenpeydee wrote:Why am I scummy? @whoeversaidthat
This is @ least the THIRD time keyen has either demonstrated that he isn't paying attention to the game or wants people to think that he isn't:
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This looks like someone that knows he's talking to town.In post 192, keyenpeydee wrote:2F, your reads are as shit as ever. I remember you being so aggressive and ruining town.
I already posted about the completely contradictory vijar read. He immediately claims it was a joke. But like, why would he post a joke like that in the middle of a bunch of serious responses in a reads posts? Makes no sense.In post 222, keyenpeydee wrote:Spoiler: Quotes
All in All here's my reads:
Town:
Lannister
NullTown or just unsure reads:
All that isn't mentioned.
Leaning Town:
Gamma
Vijarada
Ssbm
NullScum:
Dave
TwoFace
Rasko
Leaning Scum:
Gear
JarJar
Also when I confront him about it:
So if hasn't posted any read-worthy posts, why put him in the Leaning Town reads instead of the unsure reads?In post 232, keyenpeydee wrote:
He hasn't posted any read-worthy posts, I think?In post 230, JarJarDrinks wrote:
Ok so why isn't it serious?In post 227, keyenpeydee wrote:
It's just much more like saying that he's scum because it's what he's doing to all players when we're scum together.In post 226, JarJarDrinks wrote:
huh what was that post about then?In post 223, keyenpeydee wrote:That quote on Vijarada is not serious btw.
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Makes sense. I didn't look at it from the perspective you gave. TF has given a few fair points as well about key. Still catching up after skimming a bit, but will check out key more.In post 655, JarJarDrinks wrote:
Cause Tywin doesn't like the keyen lynch cause he's nervous about it being too easy of a lynch which is often an indicator that it's a mislych. I'm showing how that isn't necessarily the case here.In post 654, Gamma Emerald wrote:what is the point of this post-
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Huh where am I posting anything about keyn posting inaccurate reads? It's contradictory reads which is a big difference.
Enough w/ this "scum motivation" nonsense. Tywin had the best answer:In post 663, Gamma Emerald wrote:Can you state the scum motivation for it?In post 487, Tywin Lannister wrote:scum motive is to win by getting townies lynched while you survive. Am I doing this right?-
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Wall post incoming, so I'll put it in a spoiler tag. Guess I could do a tl;dr of it too.
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Tl;dr: I like Rask's scum list. I really dislike key's post 222 read list. I agree with the points JJD/TF have recently made. Probably will vote key after I reread a few players I've not been paying much attention to, key included. My top townies agree that key is probable scum, and I don't disagree with that perspective anymore. I'm not 100% sold, but if we won't be lynching Gamma, I'll go with key. Would prefer Gamma though, at least at this juncture.-
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Are they all newer players? They really read like they are due to the (mostly) unhelpful-to-town posts. I'd expect their play from newbie games maybe, but if they're experienced, then I'd be inclined to agree. It does seem off-base in that they'd be the easiest set to lynch by far if you added Dave to it. I have a hard time believing they're all scum due to that. It seems like an overly weak scum team.In post 660, TwoFace wrote:i could see keyen, grey, uzi scum team actually.-
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I'm still rereading, but I wanted to show post 272 from Rask. I agree with this and can legitimately say I feel like this is how Gamma has played the entire game now. So much like. Much wow. +1In post 272, Raskolnikov wrote:Ok Gamma it's good you're sharing now, especially if you have an opinion on leading wagon voicing that.
My concern now though is you were pretty nonchalant up until I asked you and then sprung to life with the superfast iso and team judgement after I asked what you thought of keyen wagon. In other words you didn't seem interested in what was going on until you felt eyes on you.
If you think jarjar/gear are both scum off this you should look at everything they did and give more analysis on it.-
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Key has been going after Dave this entire time it seems. He's only offered the easiest 'counter-target' on who to lynch over him and Gamma. He hasn't scum hunted anyone and his only play continues to be 'but.. But.. Dave!' He doesn't even call Dave scum. It's just another target that isn't him.In post 407, keyenpeydee wrote:If yall would choose who to lynch then Dave is much more good than between me and gamma.-
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I'm kinda stretched thin so plz forgive me if I don't always give you my utmost attention mkay?In post 669, Tywin Lannister wrote:
I'm still rereading, but I wanted to show post 272 from Rask. I agree with this and can legitimately say I feel like this is how Gamma has played the entire game now. So much like. Much wow. +1In post 272, Raskolnikov wrote:Ok Gamma it's good you're sharing now, especially if you have an opinion on leading wagon voicing that.
My concern now though is you were pretty nonchalant up until I asked you and then sprung to life with the superfast iso and team judgement after I asked what you thought of keyen wagon. In other words you didn't seem interested in what was going on until you felt eyes on you.
If you think jarjar/gear are both scum off this you should look at everything they did and give more analysis on it.<Embrace The Void>
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What makes you say this?In post 670, JarJarDrinks wrote:Yeah I agree w/ all that too. But no way I'm lynching Gamma unless it's somehow proven to me that the grey slot is town.<Embrace The Void>
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