Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

[Skullduggery]

Day 5, Vote Count #4

Current Vote Count:

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SirCakez

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Giovanni il Pellegrino

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Maxous -- Nahdia, Accountant, Creeps20, Not Chara, Narna, Almost50

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MathBlade -- BigYoshiFan

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PeregrineV

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Nahdia

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Accountant

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Not Chara -- PeregrineV

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Ankamius

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BigYoshiFan

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Narna

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Almost50

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Pine

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Creeps20

Not Voting:

SirCakez, Giovanni il Pellegrino, Maxous, Ankamius, Pine, MathBlade

With 14 votes available, it takes 8 votes to hammer.

Giovanni il Pellegrino is V/LA until 12/8.

Day 5 Will End on Tuesday, December 20th, at 8 a.m. Eastern Time
Countdown: (expired on 2016-12-20 08:00:00)

[Ankamius]

Why are we lynching Maxous again?

[Ankamius]

I'm starting to really dislike it now.

[Nahdia]

Christ almighty.

Because he

claimed non-town.

And because

the town win condition states we need to eliminate all non-town.

It doesn't say "threats to town". It doesn't say "all non-town except Maxous because lol idk". It says

ALL FUCKING NON-TOWN

.

[Nahdia]

From the god damn sample town role PM:

Win Condition:

You win when

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players have been eliminated from the game and there is at least one Town player still alive.

[Nahdia]

E-L-I-M-I-N-A-T-E-D.

Maxous has claimed something that we town, by the very fucking nature of our god damn role PM, have to fucking E-L-I-M-I-N-A-T-E.

This isn't hard, dammit. This is literally as easy as it god damn gets.

[Narna]

Scum can potentially win with Maxous if we mislynch today.

[Ankamius]

Yeah, that's the problem.

If he's scum, he's basically useless to them and is destined to die eventually.
If he's third party, he has no choice but to work with town.

Lynching him doesn't put us any closer to lynching actual scum outside of whoever they decide to kill tonight.

So why are we lynching him again?

[Nahdia]

BECAUSE HE'S SCUM.

[Ankamius]

Scum can potentially win with Maxous if we mislynch today.

And the only difference it would make to lynch him is that tomorrow scum can potentially win with a mislynch, except without Maxous.

[Ankamius]

Why is he scum?

Setup spec doesn't mean jack shit, so that's not a reason.

[Nahdia]

In what fucking world does Skullduggery put a benign fucking

survivor

who wins if he survives in the same game where the town role PM states we need to eliminate all non town.

Maxous claimed he can win with town. Our role PM's make it very damn clear we can't win with any frickin' survivors. This isn't a fucking paradox people, there's a very simple solution.

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[Ankamius]

Have you forgotten SlySly's ability?

[Nahdia]

I already explained this.
SlySly was TOWN. Nosferatu was TOWN. And their alternate win conditions made them LEAVE THE GAME.

Maxous has claimed NON-TOWN. This isn't the same situation by a long shot.

[Nahdia]

My. God.

[Narna]

There is the off chance that Maxous flips red.

Not claiming ascetic tends to get you policy lynched.

He tried to lynch an innocent where he had reason to believe it was legit.

We don't win with third party.

Who gives a shit about his roleblock?

anything Nahdia is saying

[Nahdia]

Literally. Confirmed. Scum. Right. In. Front. Of. Us.

This isn't a matter of reads. This is a matter of

basic fucking logic

using facts given to us by the god damn moderator.

[Ankamius]

Yeah, like Narna being scum because his result was impossible. That turned out great, didn't it.

[Narna]

The mod just killed the insane Narna theory. Shiro was either framed or came into some killing power they weren't told about.

Math, of course I asked my more specific question today after the flip. There is no reason the mod can't tell me how my role interacts with a dead miller that I investigated. You're townreading me, and town has no reason to fabricate this.

[MathBlade]

Christ almighty.

Because he

claimed non-town.

And because

the town win condition states we need to eliminate all non-town.

It doesn't say "threats to town". It doesn't say "all non-town except Maxous because lol idk". It says

ALL FUCKING NON-TOWN

.

Why is he scum?

Setup spec doesn't mean jack shit, so that's not a reason.

Setup spec is what caused me to catch him. Look you may hate me.

Despise me.

Think I am the worst player at mafia. Fine.

I can take the insults. Hell I will take whatever abuse you want. Tomorrow. There is no way confirmed scum/anti-town 3P escapes because I let scum push my goddamn buttons to far.

[MathBlade]

The mod just killed the insane Narna theory. Shiro was either framed or came into some killing power they weren't told about.

Math, of course I asked my more specific question today after the flip. There is no reason the mod can't tell me how my role interacts with a dead miller that I investigated. You're townreading me, and town has no reason to fabricate this.

Fine framer or someone is a gunsmith or something. It is fundamentally irrelevant today.

[MathBlade]

Yeah, like Narna being scum because his result was impossible. That turned out great, didn't it.

HE CLAIMED NOT WORKING WITH TOWN.

[Ankamius]

I have nothing against you personally, I just hate the playstyle of scumhunting by setup spec because not only is it impossible for me to read, but I've seen either scum manipulate the 'information' to force fake 'solved' gamestates to lose town the game or town just fucking it up badly enough to just lose themselves the game by clearing scum that aren't actually cleared.

[Ankamius]

Don't mind me, I'm bitching about the gamestate like I have been throughout most of the time we've been lynching people that I've been townreading and now we're settling for a third party claim based on information, since information has worked out so well for us so far.

[Ankamius]

This game is going to give me gray hairs.