Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

MathBlade · Post Post #7525 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:26 am

In post 6952, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 6950, Almost50 wrote:
In post 6944, Not Chara wrote:the result i got is a result, but it seems my results don't differentiate between being roleblocked, and simply nothing happening that night.
Let me try to make this even clearer: Assuming you were a Tracker (which is probably not true, but is a hypothetical assumption to get the point through) you'd get "You saw NOTHING" whether
our
target had no night action or you were locked, so you cannot differentiate between the two. Am I correctly understanding this?
I hope you mean "your".

Oh you mean how you would "edit" how the three of you are together?

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #7526 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:28 am

I'll just leave that there, as it will be the basis for my case against MathBlade. (which I will need organized, revised, and constructed like a college paper if I want it to be effective)
Speaking of college papers, I have essays to write now.

P-edit: Heheh, clever comeback. You know what I mean though.

MathBlade · Post Post #7527 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:29 am

In post 7524, BigYoshiFan wrote:Your cases are full of loaded words, your posts full of LAMIST phrases, your attitude full of arrogance. I don't need a case on you right now.

P-edit: Was about to edit that for you, now I lose that pleasure.

You mean evidence, of fucking course I am town, and yeah I am arrogant I just took down a 3P pet of scum while scum tried to suggest Narna at every turn and likely got us a shit ton of conf town.

Excuse me for being arrogant. Because damn it I am. And I will not let you try to mislynch me over "something".

If my TOWNREADS agree we can lynch Maxous without waiting for an inevitable Pine prod.

MathBlade · Post Post #7528 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:30 am

Not when the motivation is clearly "Ob we can't kill them. Guess we have to lynch them" something.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #7529 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:35 am

In post 7515, BigYoshiFan wrote:Where is Maxous at on votes?

Can you answer this question with the content it asks? Please.

Creeps20 · Post Post #7530 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:36 am

In post 7529, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 7515, BigYoshiFan wrote:Where is Maxous at on votes?
Can you answer this question with the content it asks? Please.

Read for yourself.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #7531 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:41 am

Well, he's been quite active so I thought he would know. Also, I just wanted to see if he'd be polite enough to answer.

MathBlade · Post Post #7532 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:43 am

In post 7531, BigYoshiFan wrote:Well, he's been quite active so I thought he would know. Also, I just wanted to see if he'd be polite enough to answer.

I am but you are just demonstrating how you don't read or do anything.

My unofficial vote count has Maxous at 6. 5 from last VC. I voted unovted and Almost50 voted twice for emphasis but it only counts once.

Almost50 · Post Post #7533 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:45 am

In post 7525, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6952, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 6950, Almost50 wrote:
In post 6944, Not Chara wrote:the result i got is a result, but it seems my results don't differentiate between being roleblocked, and simply nothing happening that night.
Let me try to make this even clearer: Assuming you were a Tracker (which is probably not true, but is a hypothetical assumption to get the point through) you'd get "You saw NOTHING" whether
our
target had no night action or you were locked, so you cannot differentiate between the two. Am I correctly understanding this?
I hope you mean "your".

Oh you mean how you would "edit" how the three of you are together?

Funny thing you both noted the Y was missing from "Your" but overlooked the B missing in "Blocked", but keep up the good work. I'm just enjoying all this noise.

MathBlade · Post Post #7534 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:47 am

In post 7533, Almost50 wrote:
In post 7525, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6952, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 6950, Almost50 wrote:
In post 6944, Not Chara wrote:the result i got is a result, but it seems my results don't differentiate between being roleblocked, and simply nothing happening that night.
Let me try to make this even clearer: Assuming you were a Tracker (which is probably not true, but is a hypothetical assumption to get the point through) you'd get "You saw NOTHING" whether
our
target had no night action or you were locked, so you cannot differentiate between the two. Am I correctly understanding this?
I hope you mean "your".
That typo is NAI. Noticed it but didn't want to clutter things.

My Yoshi case is not noise. Prepare for a scum funeral tomorrow.

Oh you mean how you would "edit" how the three of you are together?
Funny thing you both noted the Y was missing from "Your" but overlooked the B missing in "Blocked", but keep up the good work. I'm just enjoying all this noise.

MathBlade · Post Post #7535 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:47 am

*glares at MS* Stop messing with my quotes damn it.

Creeps20 · Post Post #7536 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:51 am

Can you three have a little rest for 15 minutes? I don't see much productivity right now from this conflict. So recollect your thoughts and prepare a bit more. I don't want scum to win this *fight* and so please take a brake for a little while. All I see is a clogged up thread

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #7537 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:52 am

You're not completely wrong, I don't find a lot of the recent posts worth reading, but I skimmed through all the pages so I hope that accounts for something. (I don't remember anything though)
Considering he's at L-2 I'll keep my vote for now.

MathBlade · Post Post #7538 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:52 am

In post 7536, Creeps20 wrote:Can you three have a little rest for 15 minutes? I don't see much productivity right now from this conflict. So recollect your thoughts and prepare a bit more. I don't want scum to win this *fight* and so please take a brake for a little while. All I see is a clogged up thread

Sure.

Almost50 · Post Post #7539 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:53 am

At least it's clear where you edited this one. Sometimes I just can't tell where a player put their own responses at all.

P-edit:

@Creeps:

I'll give you 15 hours, mate. I'm off to bed.

Not Chara · Post Post #7540 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:31 pm

i don't know, Creeps, i found that the last few pages made me a lot more confident in Yoshi scum.
lines like 'i wanted to get my suspicions down so it wouldn't look like the read came from nowhere.'

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #7541 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:34 pm

In post 7540, Not Chara wrote:i don't know, Creeps, i found that the last few pages made me a lot more confident in Yoshi scum.
lines like 'i wanted to get my suspicions down so it wouldn't look like the read came from nowhere.'

Since when were you ever confident I was scum?

Not Chara · Post Post #7542 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:39 pm

not sure if i did say anything. i'm not in the habit of leaving a candy trail of reads because i'm worried someone will call me inconsistent. ;>

i can tell you erroneously think that's a scumtell, based on how worried you are about other players thinking you're being inconsistent.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #7543 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:51 pm

In post 7542, Not Chara wrote: i can tell you erroneously think that's a scumtell, based on how worried you are about other players thinking you're being inconsistent.

What are you saying? My thoughts have many errors?

Skullduggery · Post Post #7544 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:53 pm

In post 7420, PeregrineV wrote:
@Skull-
If Shiro had been investigated by a PT cop, would he have come back as having a PT?

Spoiler:

Skullduggery · Post Post #7545 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:53 pm

Day 5, Vote Count #3

Current Vote Count:

(0)

SirCakez

(0)

Giovanni il Pellegrino

(6)

Maxous -- Nahdia, Accountant, Creeps20, Not Chara, Narna, Almost50

(0)

MathBlade

(0)

PeregrineV

(0)

Nahdia

(0)

Accountant

(1)

Not Chara -- PeregrineV

(0)

Ankamius

(0)

BigYoshiFan

(0)

Narna

(1)

Almost50 -- BigYoshiFan

(0)

Pine

(0)

Creeps20

Not Voting:

SirCakez, Giovanni il Pellegrino, Maxous, Ankamius, Pine, MathBlade

With 14 votes available, it takes 8 votes to hammer.

Giovanni il Pellegrino is V/LA until 12/8.

Day 5 Will End on Tuesday, December 20th, at 8 a.m. Eastern Time
Countdown: (expired on 2016-12-20 08:00:00)

Not Chara · Post Post #7546 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:54 pm

no, i'm saying you're worried you'll be thought of as scum for inconsistency, and when i pointed that out all you had to say was that i shouldn't be allowed to say my scumread of you increased, because i hadn't explicitly stated i thought you were scum before had.

you're avoiding the behaviour you think is scummy purposely.

'erroneously' there means you think it's a scumtell and i'm saying that's wrong.

BigYoshiFan · Post Post #7547 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:58 pm

But suddenly coming forth with a read you never mentioned isn't inconsistent, it's just sketchy.
I question it because it looks opportunistic. (Yes, you can make the same argument there, go ahead)

ISO · Post Post #7548 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:41 pm

In post 7345, MathBlade wrote:Because Gio said they visited Narna and is weak. If this is true then Narna is town. If Narna is town (and if proper sanity {{the role not alluding to the player's mental health}}) then Nahdia and Creeps are town and/or are able to lie to the psychologist like in the setup below.

Since Narna mentioned no such caveat then it is likely Gio/Narna/Nahdia/Creeps all town.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Hard_Boiled

Again this assumes Gio is telling the truth and Narna understands her role and scum didn't fuck with it.

I
think
these are okay assumptions since everything lines up after Maxous's claim.

Ok I get the first bit
I don't get how a Max scum flip = Gio town

In post 7437, Almost50 wrote:
In post 7434, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7433, Not Chara wrote:
In post 7427, MathBlade wrote:....No. That is ridiculous. As I explained already. You are bringing up bad arguments again. Go to sleep. Read a book. Do something else and come back later.
one thing throwing me off right now, Math. this isn't how i'd talk to a solid scumread of mine.
Math, go back and read your own posts. You literally accused EVERYONE ALIVE of being scum. Everyone but SirCakez that is (I'm not even sure if you did or not regarding Cakez. If you did then I don't recall it, but that makes it 100% of the players are or have been scum read by you at one point or another). Now considering you only subbed-in TODAY (as in D5) that is certainly not healthy. It's more like you've been experimenting and examining things to see who would be easier to push. You don't replace-in and suspect the entire players list and claim that you're doing it to motivate the players!!
I think this is a towni behavior ftr (what Math is doing)
Uberparanoia is usually town

That said, I really don't like what he's doing making a "town block" with scummy as shit Narna. And his push on Ank for his weird claim is bad.
In post 7457, MathBlade wrote:So hence Narna is town derp for checking a claimed miller. No way scum buddies let Narna do that or claim to.

Which brings us to the Gio/Nahdia/Creeps/Narna town block. I am making an assumption here Gio isn't a liar here but I think with all the pressure he had that is okay.

There has still been no explanation given as to why narna got a guilty he should not have been able to get on shiro.

MathBlade · Post Post #7549 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:15 pm

Max ascetic (which we will know when he flips) under constant pressure of multiple players questioning his actions and reads he stuck by them. When the original mechanics didn't support it he still stood by it. I don't see scum sticking by such a claim after being hounded about it that much. Gio is town because of Max being ascetic (again assuming truth)

If Gio telling truth Narna is innocent. If Narna is innocent Nahdia and Creeps can't kill (granted they may be Maxous like and 3P and not kill) but then they certainly aren't group scum. I do not believe for a moment that only one scum on the entire team can kill. This is where the town block comes from. Scum would have 0 reason to frame Narna on any night because they were trying to mislynch Narna.

The explanation for the guilty is a simple one: Town Derp.

Oh and Narna mod got back to me said he couldn't answer the question as worded probably because it would confirm you as Town even though it should be pretty plain.