Penalty Box Mafia - Eagles. Game over. Scum wins (0-1)

[Lowell]

I don't have any leading suspects at this point, TBH. I'd as soon try to draw out a lurker as do anything else.

[creampuffeater]

/lurk lurk lurk

[Primate]

Goalie: Lowell
Right Back:Panzer
Left Back: TVZ
Centre: CPE
Right Forward: Shanba
Left Forward: Jdodge

[Mastermind of Sin]

/lurk lurk lurk

FFS, am I the only one who is not content with letting him act like scum and still be alive?

[JDodge]

/lurk lurk lurk

FFS, am I the only one who is not content with letting him act like scum and still be alive?

yes

[Primate]

So anyway, Mos, why did you lynch someone on the ice yesterday despite actually being so adamant we shouldn't lynch anyone on the ice earlier on the day that you attempted to put forward a plan to stop it?

[Mastermind of Sin]

Because I can't enact a plan by myself. If we weren't going to follow the plan, we weren't going to follow the plan. There wasn't anything I could do about it, so I just tried to make do as is and find scum. That scum happened to be on the ice.

[Primate]

But surely you arguing in favour of and proposing a plan that said that under no conditions we lynch anyone on the ice means that you support under no conditions lynching anyone on the ice?

[Mastermind of Sin]

Don't put words in my mouth, please. I speculated that keeping players on the ice is the most important aspect of the game, and I still believe that might be the case. But I did not say "under no conditions" would we lynch anyone on the ice. In fact, I seem to recall specifically saying that we would not ignore someone on the ice if they did something really scummy, but just that we should focus on people off the ice for most of the time.

[The Venerable Zorg]

Goalie: Lowell
Right Back:Panzer
Left Back: TVZ
Centre: CPE
Right Forward: Shanba
Left Forward: Jdodge

dang...
You put Lowell in goal? and me in Defence?

I realise i havent been here for a while. By the look of it, we lynched scum (but this is not absolutely certain) and he is now 'in the penalty box', which im not sure about the meaning of...

Anyway, i agree with Lowell about Flameaxe. This game cant be as easy as to have all the scum so blatantly trying to rack up penalties. Of course, its pretty obvious to me why Lowell is defending Flameaxe-distancing from a probable mislynch.

Vote: Lowell

Also, Primate, please kick this guy off the ice if atall possible. Or at least move him somewhere where we arent totally reliant on him.

Finally, i think we can sure that us letting in a goal was nothing to do with the lynch. I expect it could be something related to our formation, or general amount of penalties during the day. Collateral damage by any chance?

[Mastermind of Sin]

While I'm sure we all realize that it was all a combination of factors, I cannot fathom how you can be so sure what *didn't* factor into us getting scored on. Do you have inside information about this? We can speculate all we want about how the game works, but I have a problem with people making assertions such as yours, which restrict what we consider as possibilities with no logical reasoning to do so.

[Primate]

I would like to propose something. Not for this day, perhaps, but for future days.

I propose that whoever Primate puts on the ice gets immunity from lynch

. I propose it for these reasons:

a) This allows Primate more control over who gets lynched, since he doesn't have a vote. Sure, he can tell us what he thinks, but scum can still argue against him if they have to. This way, he makes some of the calls for sure.

b) This allows us to focus more on a smaller group of players and hopefully apply good pressure to force the scum out. This is not to say that we will ignore other players on the ice if they do something really scummy, but the discussion should be focused around scrutinizing the scummy players not on the ice. The players on the ice still need to actively contribute and analyze people, because they could find themselves taken off the ice the next day if they try to skate by without helping the town. This forces activity out of the players as well as putting focused pressure on scummy players to get them to shape up or ship out.

c)

Most importantly, this means that we don't lynch anyone who is currently on the ice.

Since I'm not sure how the mechanics work for that, I'm going to assume that it would be beneficial for us to end each day with a full number of players on the ice, in order to keep the other team from scoring. This plan allows us to not only make sure that we have all those players on the ice, but that also the people on the ice are the ones who look more innocent anyways, since Primate is putting them there for that reason.

?????

Sure, we want to lynch scum, but

I think it would be more beneficial for us to have a scum on the ice than to take them off the ice and play shorthanded

. Assuming this game is supposed to simulate an actual hockey game, the scum can't sabotage the game *too* obviously, because we'd see it. However, playing shorthanded is a strong recipe for the other team to score.

So I disagree that we should just "consider the ice".

I would propose that having players on the ice is the most important aspect of the game.

????

Your plan said that we should never lynch anyone on the ice under any condition.

[Flameaxe]

Hey, MOS, nice smashing. 383 385. Go go go!

[Flameaxe]

381 383 too! /Double post to stop smashes.

[Primate]

Can you smash the coach?

[Mastermind of Sin]

I'm not on the ice. How the hell can I get smashing from the bench?

[Mastermind of Sin]

For someone who prided himself on faking penalties when he couldn't actually get them, you're awfully unobservant now...

[Flameaxe]

So now I was faking penalties, huh? Makes sense.

[Flameaxe]

double

[Mastermind of Sin]

Touche, Primate. I misremembered what I said. I was thinking of this sentence:

This is not to say that we will ignore other players on the ice if they do something really scummy, but the discussion should be focused around scrutinizing the scummy players not on the ice.

When it became obvious to me that Oman was scum, I stopped thinking about the fact that he was on the ice and the possible consequences of that. *shrug* I just went into scum-killing mode and didn't really consider anything else.

[Primate]

Does 'scum killing mode' look any different to 'oh my scumbuddy is being lynched busbusbusbus' mode in any way?

[Mastermind of Sin]

Do you mean besides the fact that I was one of the first people to call Oman out and push for his lynch? At the time I voted him, he only had one vote. That was from Killerbob, who voted him through a

dice roll

. So I fail to see how you can assert that my reaction was anything like that when I basically

started

the Oman wagon...

[The Venerable Zorg]

Does 'scum killing mode' look any different to 'oh my scumbuddy is being lynched busbusbusbus' mode in any way?

lol i like this post, because it raises a valid point. I dont like the way Mastermind is trying to use the Oman lynch as proof of his innocence, when frankly he was a total liability, and was always going to be taking an early shower.

Post 385 is a definite mark against his name.

I'm still happy with my vote for the moment, but

FoS: Mastermind

[Mastermind of Sin]

Hrmm, where exactly am I trying to prove my innocence through the Oman lynch?

[JDodge]

Unvote, vote: MoS

LYNCH ALL WHO GET PENALTIES