Mini 1859: D&D Curse of Strahd Mafia - Game Over

[shaddowez]

Dunn and dreal, I think.

[KuroiXHF]

Shaddowez, how does your very similar play here differ from your GoT episode two mafia, where you were scum?

[shaddowez]

I have a sense of humor here!

[shaddowez]

Actually though, that's pretty much an impossible question for me to answer. I get mislynched or misvigged almost every game, so apparently my play style isn't really different in my town or scum games.

[kuror0]

Ok, a couple of things I remembered when re reading.

this is the context:

Further, he seems to be advocating that the power be openly listed, which is basically rolefishing and is scummy af.

Which of the following is the right one?:
a) you haven't read everything that has been posted.
b) you are a very poor reader.
c) you are intentionally misrepresenting.

d) none of the above

If it is none of the above why you stated that I wanted the power openly listed and I was rolefishing?

@kuror0: You've said a couple times that you'd like to get the item. Why aren't you concerned that you'll be NK'd if you get it? I don't particularly want it as it puts a target on the recipient's back...if they're town...

Mmm rolefishing much?

this is your answer:

If it is none of the above why you stated that I wanted the power openly listed and I was rolefishing?

Parts of 200, 204, 211. You put in some disclaimer language, but you're still fishing for info on the item.

Mmm rolefishing much?

Nope, it was a general comment. It's like in pick your power - sure, getting a high draft gets you a good power, but if you're town it also gets you killed.

So first, your HUGE initial misrepresentation of me. One thing is I did say I wanted general info about the rules of the item to get an idea, and remember at that point no one had the item so I said it as an idea and tried to get people to vote for it or against that. And another completely different idea is how you portrayed me. Which was literally "Further, he seems to be advocating that the power be openly listed, which is basically rolefishing and is scummy af." And what's even weirder is that I had already made the clarifications about what I wanted and what not. You even quoted the post where those clarifications were, yet you used those posts to call me scummy out of your own misrepresentation of me, Then we have the 2nd part which is just a loaded question. When you use "Why aren't you concerned that you'll be NK'd if you get it?" for the first part is setting a precedence that I was not concerned about being NKed and finish saying "it puts a target on the recipient's back...if they're town..." implying that like I wasn't worried I wasn't town. The other option was for me to say why I was or wasn't worried which would lead eventually to a role talk. Or what did you expect with your "general comment" or was it just a question that wasn't meant to mean anything and I shouldn't have addressed it?

So now I remember I hold those things heavily against you. You neglected info, intentionally misrepresented another player, used that to base your scum read on that player and did an overall set up to make it look bad. And I see no possible town motivation behind it.

[Clumsy]

Lynch Votecount 1.3

(4) Pine - Persivul, SlySly, Shaddowez, KuroiXHF
(3) drealmerz7 - JasonWazza, Culted, Dunnstral
(1) Persivul - drealmerz7
(1) SlySly - Creature
(1) Creature - Shaziro
(1) JasonWazza - Pine

Not Voting:

kuror0, BRantz

With 13 alive, Majority (50%+1) is 7.

Day One Deadline is

(expired on 2016-12-16 19:00:00)

Mod notes: Seeking replacement for BRantz.

[kuror0]

This was during the item assignation phase when we were really close to a deadline.

VOTE: Vedith

Wow down to 8 hours already?

VOTE: Vedith

Why you guys voted for vedith to get the item when we were so close to deadline I don't remember him saying anything special to get the tracktion and I'm pretty sure Pine had already soft-hard claimed, you both voted for vedith out of the blue with no context or justification so I ask now, why?

[Persivul]

You're really obsessing over something that wasn't a big deal to me. Have you noticed that I haven't voted you, and my few posts to you since then have been more conversational than accusational? However, your focus on defending rather than scum hunting (you haven't voted me, so that's how the above comes across), when you don't even have a vote, is making me think you're worth a closer look.

p-edit: this is about the previous post (obviously)

[Persivul]

Why you guys voted for vedith to get the item when we were so close to deadline I don't remember him saying anything special to get the tracktion and I'm pretty sure Pine had already soft-hard claimed, you both voted for vedith out of the blue with no context or justification so I ask now, why?

Personally I wanted a competing wagon for informational purposes and vedith was the next best thing at the time.

[Dunnstral]

Didn't even know pine had claimed anything. Just knew I'd have preferred him to not get it at that point

[kuror0]

You're really obsessing over something that wasn't a big deal to me. Have you noticed that I haven't voted you, and my few posts to you since then have been more conversational than accusational? However, your focus on defending rather than scum hunting (you haven't voted me, so that's how the above comes across), when you don't even have a vote, is making me think you're worth a closer look.

p-edit: this is about the previous post (obviously)

pointing out is not obsessing.
Why would I care if you are being conversational to me or accusational to review your actions. That phrase sounds like you are saying "oh no, look we are friends, don't inspect me".
Defending? You got it wrong there. I'm not defending anything but I do use every time someone goes after me to look at their intentions and decide if they are town or scum and you come as scummy on this trade.
If I don't vote my points doesn't have validity? that's just silly, I already said my way of voting and I will finish re reading everything to have everything clear.

[Persivul]

Pine/Dunn might be a bus

Why does it have to be a bus?

Am I in the twilight zone?

Looks like a bus now because you moved your vote to drealmerz without explanation.

[kuror0]

Huh I guess I understand both motives on the vedith thing. It buggs me a little that one voted w/o reading and the other wanted a competing wagon with only 8 hours left but I guess it is fine.

[Persivul]

pointing out is not obsessing.

Nope, but pointing it out, letting it die, then pointing it out again

is

obsessing. The question is: are you defensive town, or scum having trouble pretending to hunt and so repeating arguments?

[Shaziro]

I don't understand wanting a competing wagon with 8 hours left, nor do I understand why that is "fine". That's dangerous games to be playing.

[Dunnstral]

Pine/Dunn might be a bus

Why does it have to be a bus?

Am I in the twilight zone?

Looks like a bus now because you moved your vote to drealmerz without explanation.

VOTE: Pine

[Dunnstral]

Dunn and dreal, I think.

Wait I'm getting called scum with dreal?

[Persivul]

If I don't vote my points doesn't have validity? that's just silly,

It's not silly at all. Making a weak scum read but not really pushing is scum 101.

I already said my way of voting and I will finish re reading everything to have everything clear.

Yeah, how about reading that Pine ISO like you've promised twice now? It's only 34 posts or so...

[Persivul]

Pine/Dunn might be a bus

Why does it have to be a bus?

Am I in the twilight zone?

Looks like a bus now because you moved your vote to drealmerz without explanation.

VOTE: Pine

Fair enough...

[shaddowez]

Dunn and dreal, I think.

Wait I'm getting called scum with dreal?

Or, you know, you could read the thread.

[Dunnstral]

idk, what lynches are being supported?

ok
justt a little mixup

[kuror0]

pointing out is not obsessing.

Nope, but pointing it out, letting it die, then pointing it out again

is

obsessing. The question is: are you defensive town, or scum having trouble pretending to hunt and so repeating arguments?

Your last response was something I didn't touch a single time before.

If I don't vote my points doesn't have validity? that's just silly,

It's not silly at all. Making a weak scum read but not really pushing is scum 101.

I already said my way of voting and I will finish re reading everything to have everything clear.

Yeah, how about reading that Pine ISO like you've promised twice now? It's only 34 posts or so...

You rely on attacking me because you can't justify your bad actions, is it stubborn town or scum trying to discredit a person who made a point on him? About the ISO, I'm not making it as I'm re reading the whole thread which contains Pine's posts, so what's your point there?

[KuroiXHF]

OK. I finished my college final, but I'm about to head out in half an hour, so I'm not sure I can contribute much today.

[Shaziro]

OK. I finished my college final, but I'm about to head out in half an hour, so I'm not sure I can contribute much today.

I feel that, I just finished my last final today and I'll be heading home tomorrow.

[kuror0]

I don't understand wanting a competing wagon with 8 hours left, nor do I understand why that is "fine". That's dangerous games to be playing.

I know it is dangerous, it is not a decision I would take but I guess some town could try that and pressuring further in this point would go nowhere to determine his alignment so while I don't share the idea I move to something that can clarify me his alignment.

almost almost done with catch up but I got to take a trip so

V/LA till monday 12

. I'm sorry about that but it is something I can't avoid I may log or nothing at all during this time, again sorry.