Mini 1859: D&D Curse of Strahd Mafia - Game Over

[Pine]

No, you're not trying to "understand thinking". "Understanding thinking" would be asking why I decided to softclaim in the first place, not critiquing my execution. That's the real difference - you're asking "Why'd you do it that way?" instead of "Why'd you do it?" The latter is investigative. The former is a scummy imitation.

[JasonWazza]

My questioning of you, is attempting to work out your mindset, you are just trying to frame what i said as scummy.

[Dunnstral]

Whole game feels stalled

might be partially my fault

[culted]

It's probably just because there's at least one wagon on scum, kuror hasn't posted content today and we need a replacement.

[KuroiXHF]

Drealmerz is about a null read at the moment.

Right and what I'm saying is I don't have any idea who you are; I just find it remarkably annoying and somewhat scummy how disinterested you are in talking about who you think is scum while conversely finding every opportunity to talk about yourself.

Also, you took a look at dreal's iso and just went "shit's nai" right.
Don't really buy it he's posted more content than pine has.

Are you seriously going into a game that's barely begun and complaining about not being able to read me? Keep your shirt on, cowboy. You'll be able to read me soon enough.

You can be annoyed with how I find scum, but I'm not concerned with your delicate sensibilities. The way my approach is, may not be what you like, but it's how I play my game and I'm fine with it.

And I won't explain Dreal's ISO. Part of how I read him involves an ongoing game and I'm not at liberty to speak regarding that.

Whole game feels stalled

might be partially my fault

Why do you say that?

[KuroiXHF]

Mod, V/LA for today. I'm going to try to complete my final exam today and I'm hoping the internet won't be too distracting.

Also, please yell at me if I post here and I haven't finished it yet.

[kuror0]

It's probably just because there's at least one wagon on scum, kuror hasn't posted content today and we need a replacement.

how is that a reason for the stalling of the game is that I didn't post today? Also have to ask why 1 wagon on scum would make the game stall, if there is no wagon on a scum the game would go faster? we will agree sooner to a lynch? I don't understand the correlation here.

I asked yesterday a couple of things and nothing got an answer. So I rechecked and scum does have day talk. Which means they can coordinate a lot their day stances etc and it is something to watch out for.

I haven't ISO'd pine yet. Still waiting for creature to answer my question.

Leaving that aside my reads are quite opposed to whats predominant around here. My heavier scum leans were jasson and Persivul. Both of them jumped on pine wagon which makes me feel insecure about it.

[JasonWazza]

Both of them jumped on pine wagon which makes me feel insecure about it.

I AM NOT VOTING PINE AND HAVEN'T EVEN GIVEN OUT THOUGHTS REGARDING HIM

[kuror0]

huh you are right, sorry about that. Still let me re-check to know where I got that idea from.

[drealmerz7]

I'm doing a bit of a re-read along with my catchup (more of a re-read than I'd usually give at this point but I want to make sure I have all the points fresher in my mind as I go through)

I hopefully will have some good stuff for you this morning, but there's not a lot of content in what I'm seeing (re-hashed content, sure)

sorry for absence, been a bit overwhelmed, but this game is a priority for me so that is why I am going to do it in bigger chunks with fuller focus rather than piece-meal

I am going for a walk and to do some things first, but I have time and should have a substantive post for you all within the next few hours

[Persivul]

huh you are right, sorry about that. Still let me re-check to know where I got that idea from.

Probably from Pine himself. Jason hasn't voted him and was just asking questions, and Pine got very defensive.

[KuroiXHF]

Fuck. I think JasonWazza is town.

[kuror0]

huh you are right, sorry about that. Still let me re-check to know where I got that idea from.

Probably from Pine himself. Jason hasn't voted him and was just asking questions, and Pine got very defensive.

Nop sorry. I know the ideas on the back on my head are from the thoughts I got when reading the thread and not because someone else said so. But you were quick to make your move. I'm re reading everything so wait for it before seeding ideas.

[Persivul]

Fuck. I think JasonWazza is town.

Me too. Also culted and shaddowez.

[shaddowez]

He's a Miller claim. Proper protocol is a vig shot. If he's still alive tomorrow, I'm down to lynch him.

I still don't understand this. If you actually think he's scum, shouldn't you want a lynch? Your current line of thinking assumes mulitple things - that there is a vig, that he's not BP, that scum doesn't have any sort of protective/block, that if there is a vig they think Dunn is as scummy as you do, etc. Considering there's a chance he has abilities if he's scum that he'd be able to use living past N1, why are you so opposed to lynching him D1?

Creature fluffing his post count, I mean scum hunting.

Spoiler:

VOTE: Head towards Silent Hill

I am nearly solving the game, I'll just wait the others to come.

I can't imagine the cemetary be adventurous for us.

I want to start lynching.

Mobileposting is hard.

I'll see if I'll have a post explosion later.

Oh right.

If we're looking for strong townreads, I know some.

Maybe we should preferably start with KuroiXHF.

Why? He's VLA for the weekend.

Oh nvm, I have someone else in mind then.

Won't vote until I get the VC.

Wished we could knock out lurkers, I've lost so many times because of them (town lurker or scum lurker).

Don't worry, I'm not a MariaR relative.

Fantastic

I don't know why I posted that.

Do you think that post count/effort is AI? Shouldn't Vedith and I be scum reads of yours based on post count then?

VOTE: Pine

It's my understanding that the item passes on, on a lynch, before the night phase, and so can still be used. The person gets to select where the item goes. Let's kill Pine to see if scum took it for themselves, and if they're town they get to select who gets the item.

You're literally saying "Town helped him get this item, now let's lynch him to see if he is actually town or not." That's terrible, and I can't even fathom how that would ever come from a town mindset.

Actually, I said the opposite. Replace the words town with scum

Regarding Dunn's approach above: the first is bad, as he seems to be saying we should try this even with no scum read on Pine or the Pine item wagon. The second one seems to indicate he's suspicious of Pine and/or the wagon, but it's not clear.

I don't like it, but reading dunn's ISO overall he's not high on my priorities rn.

Yeah, I'm suspicious of pine there. That's why I was voting him

I'm still down for a Dunn vote, but I think I want to see this hang first.

You're down to vote me, but you're going to vote who I voted instead



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You mean the person that you're no longer voting, since pressure started building on him? And yeah, my reads aren't dependent on who is voting whom. Sure, that contributes, but since I'm independently willing to vote either of you right now, one of you voting the other isn't going to change my read enough to make me not vote them.

Oh damn, shaddowez pulling the master lynchbait.

Huh?

VOTE: Creature For now.

In 375 you list Dunn, SlySly, and Creature as scumspects - why specifically choose Creature here?

Doesn't mean it's a wagon on scum necessarily but I'll agree the rabble about pine has started to fade a bit. Could just be that town's more ready for a dreal flip though.

The weird thing is that I'm pretty much in love with how this dreal wagon has built up so far, whereas pine I'm not really scumreading any of the votes on him as much as a few people kinda biding their time on it.

Hard to credit if dreal is more likely to white knight a town pine as scum because if pine's town that's a good mislynch for scum is it not?

Could you explain your thoughts on the wagon composition? I'm not sure I follow (thought that could just be because I haven't had my caffeine of the day yet...)

huh. I actually have Drealmz as town.

Still torn about Pine I will ISO him and make my mind after some more sleep.

Someone said scum had Day talk? I don't remember seeing that on the rules.

Creature can you show me what you consider my fluff posting?

should we request a replace on BRantz? 10 days left for day phase.

Mafia Team has Daytalk enabled in this game.

Also, I believe Clumsy has posted looking for a replacement already, even though he didn't say anything in thread.

[shaddowez]

Sry I had to go to the hospital for an emergency will be catching up and stuff later after I get some sleep.

Feel better!

[shaddowez]

Wow....just remembered that Vedith replaced out. See my previous post regarding coffee.....

Shouldn't Vedith and I be scum reads of yours based on post count then?

I need to reread dreal, but I'm still good with a Pine lynch based on his recent interaction with Jason.

Now, off to get coffee then more detail stuff.

[SlySly]

Do you think that post count/effort is AI? Shouldn't Vedith and I be scum reads of yours based on post count then?

Creature was the one inferring low post count was of the scumz. I was pointing out how his high post count was full of nothing.

[shaddowez]

Do you think that post count/effort is AI? Shouldn't Vedith and I be scum reads of yours based on post count then?

Creature was the one inferring low post count was of the scumz. I was pointing out how his high post count was full of nothing.

...that explains your hypocrisy comment in the next post. (caffeinating now)

[Creature]

Lowposters aren't my priority, but I don't want them slipping away.

[Creature]

Taking a look at the lynches likely to have support, I only have Jason that I would vote.

[shaddowez]

I think the only person that's stated they'd vote Jason right now is Pine, what makes you say that lynch is likely to have support?

[shaddowez]

The first sentence of my post got eaten.

Regarding your low activity comment, that's fair.

[Creature]

idk, what lynches are being supported?

[Creature]

I know Pine, but I don't want Pine.