Mini 1856 - This Mafia Game is for pieguyn (Game Over)

[Dwlee99]

guys vote varsoon

Because _____?
Like, it seems even more random than usual to just be voting a 0 poster.

my role pm makes me believe varsoon is probably scum

What did you mean in this post?

3 person hood, thought pisskop was town. Varsoon probable scum therefore early

[beeboy]

VOTE: Wisdom

Wisdom is scum btw.

Confirming what Pisskop posted and all that jazz.

I don't want a mass claim cause we are lynching Wisdom.

[pieguyn]

i am pretty sure that means nothing unusual last night, proceed as usual today, but i'd like some other people to weigh in because i'm *not* completely sure if this is error-proof

[pieguyn]

also, one thing of note, GIF's usual policy is "i allow scum to kill and action if they're the last scum remaining" and he has displayed a history of allowing full action+kill in role madness games

[pieguyn]

i will lol if i actually managed to evade a NK by talking the rest of the town into auto-lynching Varsoon upon me being killed N1

[Aeronaut]

skimming Aero's ISO, I think a kill on him actually *would* make some amount of sense.

I don't see how killing me makes any sense. He protected me, supposedly.

1. vig if it isn't Aero should claim. it's true that they can just shoot him overnight, but a vig CC means Aero is just scum and we have 2 scum dead, so not much of a reason to bother remaining hidden. I feel mostly sure no one will claim this, because the people who are unclaimed are either beeboy (who was RB'ed) or people who I don't see shooting Varsoon, but should be done for completeness.

I agree.

[beeboy]

Wait Pisskop if Wisdom is scum what is keeping you ambiguous at this point?

[Nahdia]

Varsoon may have just been killing Aero then.

[Nahdia]

Especially if other scum have more useful roles, I would consider benching a friggin' faith healer in favor of having a kill.

[pieguyn]

I don't see how killing me makes any sense. He protected me, supposedly.

i don't think Varsoon's action on you was a protect, i think it was a kill and he didn't protect anyone due to being the kill executor. it doesn't make any sense that he'd protect you if you're town. i don't think being a miller is a particularly good reason for not killing you, either

why do you disagree with the rest of what i wrote in that paragraph?

[Aeronaut]

I don't see how killing me makes any sense. He protected me, supposedly.

i don't think Varsoon's action on you was a protect, i think it was a kill and he didn't protect anyone due to being the kill executor. it doesn't make any sense that he'd protect you if you're town. i don't think being a miller is a particularly good reason for not killing you, either

Yeah, that's true.

why do you disagree with the rest of what i wrote in that paragraph?

I don't.

[Aeronaut]

Aero's Really EARTHY-COLORED VC Volume II

Wisdom (4):

pieguyn, pisskop, Aeronaut, beeboy

Aeronaut (1):

SirCakez

Beeboy (1): Luna Fox

Not Voting:

mhsmith0, Dwlee99, Gamma Emerald, Nahdia, Wisdom

With

11

alive,

6

to lynch.

The deadline is in (expired on 2020-11-09 11:09:14).

[pieguyn]

unvote:

we're coordinating actions tonight for if Wisdom flips scum. no one put him at L-1 until this is done

[Aeronaut]

At the very least, Wis should claim.

[Aeronaut]

Pie what's you're opinion on mhsmith

[Gamma Emerald]

skimming Aero's ISO, I think a kill on him actually *would* make some amount of sense.

I don't see how killing me makes any sense. He protected me, supposedly.

He could have run the kill and not used his faith-heal power.

[Aeronaut]

Yeah, Pie and Nahdia said that.

Got anything new?

[Gamma Emerald]

I need to read the entire thread before I post holy shit

[pieguyn]

Pie what's you're opinion on mhsmith

i didn't think his play was particularly scummy but after seeing your post about him i definitely want to look over his Varsoon interactions again

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah, Pie and Nahdia said that.

Got anything new?

I feel it's very likely Wis is scum, as he felt like he was masonsofting with Varsoon

[Aeronaut]

Wisdom is still a better lynch than Mhsmith in my opinion, but I wanted to get all that info out there at least bc I was town reading him before I really looked

[Aeronaut]

Yeah, Pie and Nahdia said that.

Got anything new?

I feel it's very likely Wis is scum, as he felt like he was masonsofting with Varsoon

Where did you see that?

[mhsmith0]

also, if we hit scum today then this game is pretty much entirely broken with a RB and a tracker (?) in the game

and this should be obvious, but if three mafia die and game is still going, autolynch Aero

p-edit: k

btw in case it's not obvious, i'm a "fruit" (i.e. bomb) vendor (bomb does nothing). given a jk and tracker on the board, idk if it's better to track or jk me (or both?) tonight, but i'll be sending a bomb to someone tonight. My suggestion is JK doesn't state whether or not JK'ing me until I say who I sent a bomb to, and that person can verify.

Not really gonna re-read quickly at this point, probably in next day or two.

PS Varsoon was a null for me; IIRC I'd been pretty explicit about who I was reading where and when. I can probably dig up the details if people want.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah, Pie and Nahdia said that.

Got anything new?

I feel it's very likely Wis is scum, as he felt like he was masonsofting with Varsoon

Where did you see that?

Wisdom kept saying he had extra information that verifies that Varsoon wasn't lying. Sounds like a masonry to me.

[pieguyn]

i don't think any of {Luna, Nahdia, Aero, Cakez-kun, GE} are scum

the nice thing about mhsmith0 being a bomb vendor here is that there really isn't any potential to counter a tracker with it - the major counter would be ninja, but if it's a ninja you don't see it vend, if it's not a ninja you see it visiting twice

i think probably the % play is have Cakez-kun track mhsmith0, and then just have Aero and Luna target someone from the remaining players - given GIF's usual policy is to allow scum to action and kill if they're the last scum remaining, i don't know if i like specifically directing actions here since all it does it allow scum to know who is targeting who. there's a 25% chance of overlap with this, but, meh

i honestly don't know if i would question a "clear" or one of my town reads first if it really came down to it. this being a troll setup makes it kind of weird.

fwiw, based on reads, i think dwlee is most likely the last scum