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MathBlade · Post Post #975 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:13 pm

Yes I do. Wake's game I did and I was town there.

What you mean is YOU don't have your reads less developed. I do.

MathBlade · Post Post #976 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:14 pm

When I am completely bamboozled except for one point I admit it.

When I am confused I say so. I find no point in lying and making up shit just to make people happy.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #977 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:14 pm

In post 974, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 972, Gamma Emerald wrote:You don't reread and have your reads end up LESS DEVELOPED.
You don't think that it's possible for people to lose confidence over time?
Or are you making a different point with this?

Before they had a me-Creeps-joshz scumteam
After, it was "idek everyone else, gamma is teh scumz"

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #978 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:15 pm

In post 969, MathBlade wrote:@Nacho I am about to head home after grocery shopping but here is Gamma's ISO from 1841. Note how "jokey" he is and serious he gets at times.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... ct[]=28404

It is like a robot inherited Gamma's body.

Thanks, I'll glance through it when I get the chance.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #979 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:15 pm

In post 975, MathBlade wrote:Yes I do. Wake's game I did and I was town there.

What you mean is YOU don't have your reads less developed. I do.

What the fuck?
Yeah, your reads are less developed. What are you trying to say?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #980 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:16 pm

In post 977, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 974, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 972, Gamma Emerald wrote:You don't reread and have your reads end up LESS DEVELOPED.
You don't think that it's possible for people to lose confidence over time?
Or are you making a different point with this?
Before they had a me-Creeps-joshz scumteam
After, it was "idek everyone else, gamma is teh scumz"

So why is that reason to lynch Creeps and not Mathblade?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #981 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:16 pm

In post 979, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 975, MathBlade wrote:Yes I do. Wake's game I did and I was town there.

What you mean is YOU don't have your reads less developed. I do.
What the fuck?
Yeah, your reads are less developed. What are you trying to say?

I think what they are saying is that you saying that "people don't reread and end up with less developed reads" was a generalization that didn't apply to them.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #982 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:17 pm

In post 980, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 977, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 974, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 972, Gamma Emerald wrote:You don't reread and have your reads end up LESS DEVELOPED.
You don't think that it's possible for people to lose confidence over time?
Or are you making a different point with this?
Before they had a me-Creeps-joshz scumteam
After, it was "idek everyone else, gamma is teh scumz"
So why is that reason to lynch Creeps and not Mathblade?

It felt like he was backing off his buddy
Now that you point it out, what I did is actually rather bad. I'm voting the wrong side of the association.
VOTE: MathBlade

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #983 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:18 pm

In post 981, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 979, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 975, MathBlade wrote:Yes I do. Wake's game I did and I was town there.

What you mean is YOU don't have your reads less developed. I do.
What the fuck?
Yeah, your reads are less developed. What are you trying to say?
I think what they are saying is that you saying that "people don't reread and end up with less developed reads" was a generalization that didn't apply to them.

Okay, I felt like they were trying to turn my argument around on me.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #984 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:21 pm

In post 141, Creeps20 wrote:
In post 140, Eric Rasputin wrote:Just because ... Sometimes you dont need a reason .. All my posts have a meaning and it helps me and not the team ... I am not a very good team player because my style is completely different from the others .... My job is to make my alignment win ... I'll do that even if I have to deceive my own alignment ... And I'm out .. Hope the KP comes soon
VOTE: Eric
I see plenty of scum motivation from this post. I feel like he was attempting to start a bandwagon based on nothing so he can get the town flip (assuming he is town) and he can back off saying that he was just random voting

I don't really like this vote on Eric; Creeps seems to ignore all of Eric's other posts because he can't give reasoning for a vote?

In post 142, TwiszTed wrote:
In post 140, Eric Rasputin wrote:Just because ... Sometimes you dont need a reason .. All my posts have a meaning and it helps me and not the team ... I am not a very good team player because my style is completely different from the others .... My job is to make my alignment win ... I'll do that even if I have to deceive my own alignment ... And I'm out .. Hope the KP comes soon

Been mulling this over, and yeah...

VOTE: Eric

Throwing out reads with zero backing.

As far as playing for yourself, that's all fine and good, I do the same. But that doesn't exempt you from responsible scumhunting.

And as for this one, the "responsible scumhunting" line feels slimy and fake; I've played with House before and that seems uncharacteristically stiff. I suppose it could be him trying to disguise his style a bit but I don't really see any differences and so somehow I sincerely doubt it.

I would have been much more happy with 178 if it actually made conclusions; having Io as his strongest scumread for the "statistics" talk also seems shallow and silly.

Hikari's approach to Eric in 190 is interesting; identifying that he is town is good but expected. I'm not sure what to make over his "I'm not sure if he's scum or not" type posts.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #985 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:22 pm

In post 982, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 980, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 977, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 974, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 972, Gamma Emerald wrote:You don't reread and have your reads end up LESS DEVELOPED.
You don't think that it's possible for people to lose confidence over time?
Or are you making a different point with this?
Before they had a me-Creeps-joshz scumteam
After, it was "idek everyone else, gamma is teh scumz"
So why is that reason to lynch Creeps and not Mathblade?
It felt like he was backing off his buddy
Now that you point it out, what I did is actually rather bad. I'm voting the wrong side of the association.
VOTE: MathBlade

Okay. Why do you suspect Mathblade outside of what you just told me? What do you think of their predecessor?

MathBlade · Post Post #986 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:22 pm

Not my style and you know it. I am not one to twist. When scum (which I am not) I let Town twist themselves. The last thing I do is give up control though. I just take an already existing weakness and make it larger.

In Gistou I made up fake wincon a 1841 no good town leader. I can pick one for each game. I am methodical and strategic as scum.

MathBlade · Post Post #987 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:24 pm

As town I plug those weaknesses make them no longer weaknesses so Town wins. But if I don't see anything I get the fuck out of the way. I can be wrong like when Titus nailed 5 or 6 scum in a row so I scumread her but afterwards I learn and the biggest thing I have learned. Big dose of humble pie when I don't know shit.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #988 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:27 pm

Some of TVD's posts ping ne as scummy

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #989 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:30 pm

In post 667, MathBlade wrote:I like Gamma and JoshZ as a team. In the last game we played together Gamma was more forceful with me about reads and such. Now he plays nice with JoshZ and is only forceful on the mason claim.

So I like Creeps JoshZ and Gamma as the scumteam after catching up.

Looking back this is a bit odd. Before this he stated he saw a Joshz-Creeps association, in this one he states one between me and Joshz. He follows it with a vote on Creeps. Same mistake I JUST MADE.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #990 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:31 pm

Mathblade isn't a "he", but interesting point in a creeps vote following shortly after.

MathBlade · Post Post #991 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:32 pm

My reasoning then was the JoshZ vote off of Creeps was sketchy as fuck. However upon reread it didn't seem that sketchy however you still stood out.

In combination with the things suggested I realized that there were other possibilities and went with my top scumread.

#noRegrets

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #992 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:34 pm

Gamma, is there any chance you'd be willing to swing to fitz in the spirit of compromise?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #993 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:34 pm

In post 992, Nachomamma8 wrote:Gamma, is there any chance you'd be willing to swing to fitz in the spirit of compromise?

Yes of course

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #994 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:35 pm

You also never actually answered why you asked for a mason claim when you did.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #995 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:37 pm

In post 750, havingfitz wrote:I would vote Gamma and Ari as well. Neither of them have done fcukall this game that I can recall other than sheeping TwoFace's crapass case on me.

Vedith and Deers have petered out after replacing in. Sadly. wtf

Josh has revived the Eric slot a bit so looking forward (hopefully) to seeing what that slot provides tomorrow.
Misa claimed mason so I guess their work is done

This post is fucking bullshit. "I've done jack shit" "I HAVEN'T DONE SHIT" SURE IT AIN'T ALL GOOD SHIT BUT I'VE DONE SHIT

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #996 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:38 pm

In post 994, Nachomamma8 wrote:You also never actually answered why you asked for a mason claim when you did.

I felt it was proper to verify the claim.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #997 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:40 pm

Aristophanes's next spurt of posting moves him up into a high confidence townread - would be extraordinarily surprised if he was scum here based on the experiential meta I have on him.

In post 288, Creeps20 wrote:
In post 277, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Mafiascum is life.
UNVOTE: Eric

VOTE: Uzi

Useless posts. Constantly. I really haven't seen much content

This vote looks fairly opportunistic.

In post 311, Gamma Emerald wrote:What.
YOU CLAIM AT L-1!
Hmmmm...

The PARTNER NOW! piece was fairly weird, I understand why people had issure with it; interested in hearing Gamma's side on it.

In post 323, Gamma Emerald wrote:I asked for a partner claim because if there is no partner we have caught scum.

And if there is a partner, you've outed two power roles and reduced the chance of the masons being protected.
You didn't think that it might be useful to not paint giant red bullseyes on more town PRs than necessary?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #998 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:41 pm

In post 995, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 750, havingfitz wrote:I would vote Gamma and Ari as well. Neither of them have done fcukall this game that I can recall other than sheeping TwoFace's crapass case on me.

Vedith and Deers have petered out after replacing in. Sadly. wtf

Josh has revived the Eric slot a bit so looking forward (hopefully) to seeing what that slot provides tomorrow.
Misa claimed mason so I guess their work is done
This post is fucking bullshit. "I've done jack shit" "I HAVEN'T DONE SHIT" SURE IT AIN'T ALL GOOD SHIT BUT I'VE DONE SHIT

Vote him, then.

MathBlade · Post Post #999 (ISO) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:41 pm

When you don't believe someone you state it and/or vote it. Not try to organize a streaking party.

Hey I don't believe Gamma is town. Can we mass claim? (The last sentence is sarcastic I am a lover of pants)