Open 660 - White Flag (Game Over)

[Aubrey]

Re reading my post I see I wasn't clear in a pre edit when I was regarding lethargy. Lethargy town read alban and scum read Keyen, yet voted for Alban...

[Gamma Emerald]

@Aubrey: You were in Open 654. What do you think about my point against alban for attacking keyen when keyen called himself VI?

[Aubrey]

@Aubrey: You were in Open 654. What do you think about my point against alban for attacking keyen when keyen called himself VI?

Hmm. It stems from flak you got when you said you felt like lynchbait in that game? I vaguely remember. Did you look back and see if only scum used this against you or if town also used it against you?

[Gamma Emerald]

@Aubrey: You were in Open 654. What do you think about my point against alban for attacking keyen when keyen called himself VI?

Hmm. It stems from flak you got when you said you felt like lynchbait in that game? I vaguely remember. Did you look back and see if only scum used this against you or if town also used it against you?

The main person who used it against me was scum, yes.

[Aubrey]

I'll go back and relook. I don't know if Alban is my first choice to lynch right now. To much fishy crap going on. Is his vi argument he used on Keyen the sole reason behind your distrust? Do you think he and cracker are aligned? Do you think it was a clever ploy to lure you back in the game? What did you make of the wagon that formed and disappeared while considering those on it? Is Keyen town for you?

He has defended a number of inactive players, are they likely scum? Do you think lethargy and he are scum aligned? Hell he defended Eric, do you think he and LQ are aligned?

You are looking at the whole story here and not just one chapter, right?

[Gamma Emerald]

That's what informs my read on him
One of LQ or Transcend is probscum for how the wagon developed

[chilledtea]

Aubrey,

The reason why gamma is the second best guess for scum is because of his reads, analysis.

Also lethargy's vote on alban was absolutely scummy and I am amazed that no one is picking on that.

Alban is town, lethargy, gamma and toto,ssbm,cracker,deer, might have the last scum.

[Transcend]

ye

i might have been wrong about the lethargy slot

i did misread the deimos head once, i'm sure i can do it again

which head made the vote on alban btw

[Clemency]

I had a townlean on alban, but then later on he flipped his shit after getting two votes on him, which I found very scummy, so I joined the wagon, like I should have.
How is that suddenly scummy?
-Mercy

[Lethargy]

I had a townlean on alban, but then later on he flipped his shit after getting two votes on him, which I found very scummy, so I joined the wagon, like I should have.
How is that suddenly scummy?
-Mercy

ffs

[Transcend]

oh yeah clemency/mercy makes weird votes and weird voting patterns as town. idk his scum game but i do know for a fact his voting pattern was obscure and fairly inconsistent.

i waffled on the alban slot myself, i thought he was town for a bit, then scum, then town, then scum, and then town again lol. literally.

i'm dismissing the jump-on from him as null.

[Transcend]

meh i really don't know my gut tells me they're town this time. not gonna commit too hard to that read. i need to really work on getting solid reads b/c most of my reads are just ehhh lean town ehhh lean scum ehhhhh h h h h h h h h h h h

and im just like i rly dunno where i w ant to go wit this....

[Transcend]

i'll sort this game tomorrow and i'm sorry for my crappy naked vote panorama you experienced i'm just really not sure where i want to go right now.

[Transcend]

That's what informs my read on him
One of LQ or Transcend is probscum for how the wagon developed

u sure about this?

i really wish people didn't scumhunt with logic like this because, yes, sometimes it's right, but sometimes it's dead wrong and you can't rely on it.

[Transcend]

actualyl tone feels a bit off in 583-584 don't really like it ehhh blehhh idk zz

[alban]

Disappointed with this game, tbh.
The game is replete with lack of logic.

One person did this in one game once upon a time.

Hence everyone who does this must be a town or a scum.

I could understand the three scums saying this, playing knowingly ignorant. How can majority of the players have no semblance of logic?
Have you guys no clue about how trends are drawn?

Minimum sample size?

Remember?
I would welcome an implication based on logic, even with a false premise and a fake one. I also

understand gut and intuition

. But when the whole premise is one person, one game, one time, how do you counter that? It's like a fool making an idiotic comment and implicating you. You replying to it makes it worse coz you seem to be defending yourself, all the while entering deeper waters, when all you are doing is put some sense into the accuser's head. The worst is when people

sheep such illogical ppl

.

Just to clear some points:

1. No

I don't know Cracker

. Just look at her joining date. Unless you are suggesting that I know her from outside the game, which I do not. This is my first game with her. This is just one example of extrapolation gone haywire.
I have maintained that I and rest of the town should not to go after players like Cracker, Lethargy and Scum deers coz they are new, they must be overwhelmed, they will make mistakes, and this reflects in their weird responses or lack of content when they post, or being awol.

Even if they are scum

, it's alright to have such a weak scum in the game. Additionally, what does it tell you when you lynch them? Whether they flip town or scum, they are like

lone wolves

without connections, giving away no extra information. Instead, go after stronger players (which is why I took my name. Another joke. It was a joke coz no one was scum-reading me at the moment, except Keyen who was OMGUS-ing. There was no need for me to suggest backing off from newer/weaker players, and there was no need for me to suggest voting for me instead. 'Heroic' someone said. Really? You people couldn't see that I was treating myself as a representative of the SE/IC group, and was suggesting that anyone from that group would be fine?). If some of you are town and think that this is a scummy behaviour, I assume your scum game must be pretty average for you to think that scum divert attention from someone like that.

2. My comments page 19 and thereafter were

made in jest

. To spice things up. Have some laughs. Play a court jester. I had a heightened expectation of the collective IQ. I was wrong about it. It snowballed. People who voted or suspected me: Transcend, Dave, LQ, Gamma, Keyen, ssbm, Lethargy. Even if I think that all 3 of the scums are on this wagon, it is disconcerting that more than 50% of the town on this wagon has no logical process to voting. Confidence in your reads is good as long as the process is logical. Hell, even gut is fine, as long as you leave a

scope for doubt and reconsideration

. But you guys are behaving like a

mob let loose

. While voting, you don't ascertain if your vote is for valid reasons. You don't question me after voting. How else are you going to know if I am really a scum or not? Fine. The wagon starts building. What's your opinion about that? Nothing. Even if I am scum, do you analyse the wagon? No. People who built the wagon can't do VCA. Then why build it? All you folks did last 5 pages was to question the motivation behind my posts. 3 of you can be knowingly ignorant. Majority of you doing this? That shows me that it's a bad assemblage of players who really dont know how to play. I am sorry if this seems 'abrasive'. But it's true. You are sheeps. Plain and simple.

3. You want to know how I play as scum? Visit

Open 637

. There are two players here from that game. Ask them. See how I play as scum. And then draw your conclusions. There's a second game with me as scum, but I can't talk about it since it's ongoing. It's all there in my meta. There's another player here from that game.
In case you don't wanna take the effort, but rely on my word, this is how I play as scum: I am very careful as a scum. I am very friendly, very thorough, very detailed, and very indirect, in both positive and negative interactions. I will do absolutely nothing to catch attention. And hence, there's no way I will be lynched as a scum. The only way for me to die as a scum is by night kill action of the non-scum fraction. Even if I say so myself, I am very good as a scum.
I am confident that even a sub-intelligent person will agree that my style this game has been anything but.

If I were a mafia, there is no way you will catch me.

And if you are able to do that, what does that mean? Think about it.

I don't regret one bit for being patronising. You guys deserve it.

[Lethargy]

Transcend, are you having a stroke?

[Transcend]

i think ur town alban

just a few of ur posts made me (and probably a few others) have to think

pedit: nuu

[Transcend]

i think my todo list is reread the isos of Dave, Eric/LQ, Lethargy, Toto, and maybe even ssbm as from light memory they've all pinged me as scum but that's obviously way too many scum tbh.

[Lethargy]

Disappointed with this game, tbh.
The game is replete with lack of logic.

One person did this in one game once upon a time.

Hence everyone who does this must be a town or a scum.

I could understand the three scums saying this, playing knowingly ignorant. How can majority of the players have no semblance of logic?
Have you guys no clue about how trends are drawn?

Minimum sample size?

Remember?
I would welcome an implication based on logic, even with a false premise and a fake one. I also

understand gut and intuition

. But when the whole premise is one person, one game, one time, how do you counter that? It's like a fool making an idiotic comment and implicating you. You replying to it makes it worse coz you seem to be defending yourself, all the while entering deeper waters, when all you are doing is put some sense into the accuser's head. The worst is when people

sheep such illogical ppl

.

Just to clear some points:

1. No

I don't know Cracker

. Just look at her joining date. Unless you are suggesting that I know her from outside the game, which I do not. This is my first game with her. This is just one example of extrapolation gone haywire.
I have maintained that I and rest of the town should not to go after players like Cracker, Lethargy and Scum deers coz they are new, they must be overwhelmed, they will make mistakes, and this reflects in their weird responses or lack of content when they post, or being awol.

Even if they are scum

, it's alright to have such a weak scum in the game. Additionally, what does it tell you when you lynch them? Whether they flip town or scum, they are like

lone wolves

without connections, giving away no extra information. Instead, go after stronger players (which is why I took my name. Another joke. It was a joke coz no one was scum-reading me at the moment, except Keyen who was OMGUS-ing. There was no need for me to suggest backing off from newer/weaker players, and there was no need for me to suggest voting for me instead. 'Heroic' someone said. Really? You people couldn't see that I was treating myself as a representative of the SE/IC group, and was suggesting that anyone from that group would be fine?). If some of you are town and think that this is a scummy behaviour, I assume your scum game must be pretty average for you to think that scum divert attention from someone like that.

2. My comments page 19 and thereafter were

made in jest

. To spice things up. Have some laughs. Play a court jester. I had a heightened expectation of the collective IQ. I was wrong about it. It snowballed. People who voted or suspected me: Transcend, Dave, LQ, Gamma, Keyen, ssbm, Lethargy. Even if I think that all 3 of the scums are on this wagon, it is disconcerting that more than 50% of the town on this wagon has no logical process to voting. Confidence in your reads is good as long as the process is logical. Hell, even gut is fine, as long as you leave a

scope for doubt and reconsideration

. But you guys are behaving like a

mob let loose

. While voting, you don't ascertain if your vote is for valid reasons. You don't question me after voting. How else are you going to know if I am really a scum or not? Fine. The wagon starts building. What's your opinion about that? Nothing. Even if I am scum, do you analyse the wagon? No. People who built the wagon can't do VCA. Then why build it? All you folks did last 5 pages was to question the motivation behind my posts. 3 of you can be knowingly ignorant. Majority of you doing this? That shows me that it's a bad assemblage of players who really dont know how to play. I am sorry if this seems 'abrasive'. But it's true. You are sheeps. Plain and simple.

3. You want to know how I play as scum? Visit

Open 637

. There are two players here from that game. Ask them. See how I play as scum. And then draw your conclusions. There's a second game with me as scum, but I can't talk about it since it's ongoing. It's all there in my meta. There's another player here from that game.
In case you don't wanna take the effort, but rely on my word, this is how I play as scum: I am very careful as a scum. I am very friendly, very thorough, very detailed, and very indirect, in both positive and negative interactions. I will do absolutely nothing to catch attention. And hence, there's no way I will be lynched as a scum. The only way for me to die as a scum is by night kill action of the non-scum fraction. Even if I say so myself, I am very good as a scum.
I am confident that even a sub-intelligent person will agree that my style this game has been anything but.

If I were a mafia, there is no way you will catch me.

And if you are able to do that, what does that mean? Think about it.

I don't regret one bit for being patronising. You guys deserve it.

You sound incredibly butthurt. I fee the same as Transcend though.
UNVOTE:

-Mercy

[Lethargy]

well that didn't work

[Transcend]

bru what did u even just do

[Lethargy]

Oh, wrong spoiler tag whoops

[PsychoticDave]

Lethargy broke the forums.

VOTE: Transcend
Transcend has just been flopping votes around hoping to lynch someone.

[alban]

This is the third time you are voting for him.
Looks like you are voting for him coz you have no read on anyone else. Is that right?