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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:22 pm

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In post 378, Pine wrote:
In post 374, culted wrote:
In post 369, shaddowez wrote:
In post 361, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: Pine

It's my understanding that the item passes on, on a lynch, before the night phase, and so can still be used. The person gets to select where the item goes. Let's kill Pine to see if scum took it for themselves, and if they're town they get to select who gets the item.
VOTE: Dunnstral

You're literally saying "Town helped him get this item, now let's lynch him to see if he is actually town or not." That's terrible, and I can't even fathom how that would ever come from a town mindset.
I could get down with this.

Why is nobody asking me why I'm voting shaz?
Don't care.

I could go for a Dunn lynch, but I'm more inclined to give a vig shoot him, if there is one.
Vigilante, please shoot Dunnstral. We need to resolve the Miller thing eventually, and vig shots are more expendable than lynches.
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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:29 pm

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In post 396, culted wrote:Okay so if it was scummy then can you explain why the hypocrisy (IE - change in mindset) makes more sense to come from scum?

This is the one part that you can't seem to answer. :]

I don't know the source material at all this decision was complete compulsion but so far I'm having fun. Cool that I missed the boring part of the game as well.
You literally agreed that you don't see a problem with thinking hypocrisy is scummy. Scum benefit from setting standards for others that they then don't have to follow because they can, for instance, make votes with no real reasoning while calling it scummy when other players do it, distracting from themselves. They could argue that others aren't active enough, expecting those people to post more effortless posts that they can then pick apart to call scumtells, while avoiding being active themselves in order to avoid giving those same tells. Setting rules for others to call them scum, and then ignoring when they break those rules is -massively- beneficial for scum. But, hypocrisy on it's own can just be normal human error and not scum trying to do the above, so it is a -warning sign-, as I've said many times. Hence, again, Dunn being a suspect.
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:29 pm

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@Dunnstral
Why do you think scum would want or could have made any influence over whether pine received the item or not? His claim is what gathered consensus for that vote mostly.
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:31 pm

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In post 402, culted wrote:@Dunnstral
Why do you think scum would want or could have made any influence over whether pine received the item or not? His claim is what gathered consensus for that vote mostly.
Added to this, which scum do you feel pushed him getting said item? Why aren't you voting them, or calling them out?
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:31 pm

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I feel as if pine gathering a bunch of votes for the item in a short time was scummy.

What claim?
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:32 pm

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In post 403, Shaziro wrote:Why aren't you voting them, or calling them out?
Because I don't even know if pine is scum yet. If he is someone on the item wagon for him is scum.
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:33 pm

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Pine did feel kinda scummy in my readthrough.

Could you iso shaz and tell me if I'm just bad tunneling or not?
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:34 pm

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In post 404, Dunnstral wrote:I feel as if pine gathering a bunch of votes for the item in a short time was scummy.

What claim?
He claimed wizard OR something else. Which means that he could get the most buffs from the amulet or so that's what we're all gonna assume.
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:35 pm

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In post 405, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 403, Shaziro wrote:Why aren't you voting them, or calling them out?
Because I don't even know if pine is scum yet. If he is someone on the item wagon for him is scum.
So you want to kill him to find out if he's scum, and if he is go after people who wanted to give him the item. So...witch trial style? Either way they're dead, but you want to find out if they're a witch?
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:38 pm

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In post 407, culted wrote:
In post 404, Dunnstral wrote:I feel as if pine gathering a bunch of votes for the item in a short time was scummy.

What claim?
He claimed wizard OR something else. Which means that he could get the most buffs from the amulet or so that's what we're all gonna assume.
Okay, you clearly didn't read closely. Re-read his soft...half...kind of...claim.
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:39 pm

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I know it wasn't a wizard specifically I was just taking the piss, we're all nerds.
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:41 pm

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Yeah, for the record, I didn't "gather up a bunch of votes in a short time," I not only was reluctant to push myself at first (because I didn't want to classclaim), it also took us until a near-deadline decision to get that decision made.

So scumpoints to Dunn for the misrep.
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:41 pm

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This also feels distinctly different from what I've seen of TownDunn.
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:41 pm

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I want to kill him because I think there's an above average chance of him being scum, and if he is there are associations

ok to the claim... why did people think an item would be restricted like that? He didn't even specify his class

In post 406, culted wrote:Could you iso shaz and tell me if I'm just bad tunneling or not?
He was fine up until the past 3 pages or so
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:42 pm

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Also pine is really coming at me for my vote
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:42 pm

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lolno
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:43 pm

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But you are
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:44 pm

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In post 412, Pine wrote:This also feels distinctly different from what I've seen of TownDunn.
It's not
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:45 pm

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For suspecting you, Hypocritestral?

Also, now that the item is handed out and we've been told there's no special thing, I'll spill the beans. If a Cleric uses the item in the game, it has the ability to empower his Turn Undead ability, making it -very- good against Strahd and his minions. My assumption would be that it would be a one shot bulletproof against said minions/Strahd.
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:48 pm

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In post 414, Dunnstral wrote:Also pine is really coming at me for my vote
I'm not coming at you because of your vote. I don't give a fairy fart for that. I'm assessing your claim, your behavior, and your meta. There's a difference.

And yeah. This looks a
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different from the happy-go-lucky, nigh-insane TownDunn I've seen. This looks calculating and aggressive.

PEdit: I don't see a reason to obfuscate what it does. The amulet recharges a limited-use power to full uses. It isn't likely to be useful to me, but it should be helpful to someone in late game when I'm dead. Choose wisely.
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:49 pm

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This was important information and deserves to be marked as such:

The amulet recharges a limited-use power to full uses. It isn't likely to be useful to me, but it should be helpful to someone in late game when I'm dead. Choose wisely.
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:49 pm

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UNVOTE: Pine

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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:50 pm

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In post 418, Shaziro wrote:My assumption would be that it would be a one shot bulletproof against said minions/Strahd.
If somebody claimed 1-shot bulletproof from that amulet I'd lynch them.
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:51 pm

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VOTE: Dunnstral

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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:52 pm

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I'm semi-BP anyway. I can self-heal.
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