New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball - [Game Over]

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Parama, would you play DDR versus with me?

With our powers combined we can solve this game without needing to lynch you because you're partnered with obvscum

Unless you're scum I guess, but if you're scum I'm sure I'll figure that out soon enough in our PT~
(translation: not dancing with me will be interpreted as a scumclaim)

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I'm just crossdressing for this dance, I'm usually a lady...
Guys are supposed to be pushy and mean, right?

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I'm running out of laughing reaction gifs guys

@gamma read the setup

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mh is gamma is scum we will not have to work that hard to find her, trust me

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This game is so much more lewd than the last one and I'm entirely fine with that.

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Don't dance with Dunn nooooooooooo
Don't you want to wiiiiiin D:

[Human Sequencer]

In that case,

Vedith, do you wanna get down tonight?

obvs I prefer Parama (heartbroken </3) but I also reckon Vedith and I could do similar and a pt with him sounds Fun As Fuck

[Human Sequencer]

You don't like me?
Oh you're such a cruel mistress :<
I hope Dunn gets left out so you can see the ones you love suffer!

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This is the same setup as Summer Waltz, and it's an open setup, not semi-open. So we should be seeing two gentlemen scum and one lady scum.

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Speaking of which...2 mafia gentlemen, one lady? Vice versa? Anyone have any thoughts on what's more likely?

$10 says RNG determined this

Pay up!

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@scout

I'm just crossdressing for this dance, I'm usually a lady...
Guys are supposed to be pushy and mean, right?

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@gamma 'Initially a friend of Sarah and a stalwart feminist...'
I think I just shat myself out of my bellybutton.

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How would it be bastard? This is an open setup? We have confirmation from the mod that it's the same setup as last game?

That's an interesting accusation from somebody so interested in theoryplay.

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^@shadow setp

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@HS did you look that up or did you know that already?
I made that comment because you said "men are pushy and mean".

I looked it up, no idea what egs is.

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MH. We have confirmation on the setup. We have two scumgents and one scumlady.

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GUYS
WE HAVE TWO SCUMGENTS AND ONE SCUMLADY

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Wot, how is it an open setup then? Surely it's a semi-open setup if the roles are only partially known?

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Sorry parama I already spent it on ahegao doujins >_>

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Whatever I hate setup spec the best way to find scum is good old fashioned scumhunting.
Kagami, could you share your reasoning on Jester? I don't see it, unless you were messing w/ us.

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Cerb and Jester are scum, calling it now.

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What's my reasoning? Please share.

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See like this is the stuff I'm talking about:

Wot, how is it an open setup then? Surely it's a semi-open setup if the roles are only partially known?

What roles? What are you talking about.

It's a purely vanilla game.

There are four roles.
Male town
Male scum

Female town
Female scum

[Human Sequencer]

Am I incorrect?
I said roles, not power roles, friend.

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Nah I'm gonna have to ask you to do it now, sorry.
What's the town motivation for not answering?

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Ah, ok.

You're still scum!

Jester is a beeline lynch d1 guys.

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^@nahdia I can get behind this too.

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So basically we lynch Jester, cerb, Shadow and win.
Easy game, easy money.

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But jester~
You're scummier than cerb~

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SAD I trust you and you're probably town but please divert your gaze to Jester the obvscum here.

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So basically we lynch Jester, cerb, Shadow and win.
Easy game, easy money.

>I post this
>Jester does some fake af AtE
>Cerb goes quiet
>Shadow ignores me

I think we found the scumteam guys!

[Human Sequencer]

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
I love you parama!
I'll repay you in -other- ways.

NAHDIA DO NOT ACCEPT CERB PLS

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@mini
Literally every single non-newbie I've been in.

'Are you an alt?'
'Oh, you're xs alt'
'Hum. What other sites have you played on?'

No, I am as new as my profile would have you believe.

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So basically we lynch Jester, cerb, Shadow and win.
Easy game, easy money.

>I post this
>Jester does some fake af AtE
>Cerb goes quiet
>Shadow ignores me

I think we found the scumteam guys!

>cerb finally posts and ignores me and makes an excuse to not post more while saying 'lol I don't care if I die look at how townie I am!'
>shadow continues ignoring me
>jester goes quiet

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[quote=cerb]lol look at me i'm so townie i don't care how you read me :^)[/quote]

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lol look at me i'm so townie i don't care how you read me :^)

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^ L Y N C H T H I S

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Game will quiet down when players start dying anyway.

SS, you literally just decided to defend yourself with 'Wifom' and now you've chosen to backpedal into something else.

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Scout, if you're here I wanna hear what you have to say about Jester and Shadow.

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Hey, you actually decided to respond! Look at that, did your scumbuddies in the scum PT tell you to do that?
Tell Jester to come out of there and start posting for me, I know she likes hiding from people who are scumreading her but this is just silly!

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^@ss

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@scout because your ISO is full of nothing but setup spec, calling setup spec silly and jokes.
How do you possibly get SS as a townlean?
How do you possibly get Jester as town?
I wouldn't mind more actual content behind those reads, you're looking a little empty on the reasoning here.

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@scout Hey, I'll show you how to do it. It's not tough, really.
146 is a supermassive black hole of scumminess. This is a clear, obvious, BLINDING display of shitty scum distancing, combined with the fact that Jester has completely fallen out of the thread since I've been deathtunnelling her makes me feel like I'm probably on to something.

Do you have any of these reads about any of the other players?
I do feel like you're kinda town, but I don't want to set a precedent of 'Yeah guys you can totally just sit back and lurk the whole game, putting in empty jokes every now and then!'

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Jester is confirmed scum.
There's no way Jester could know that I was posting about her activity and using it as leverage for a scumread if she really couldn't keep up with the thread like she says. Much more likely is that her scumbuddies told her about it.
I am very convinced on this.

Also, I'm sorry I mistook your gender, but I don't think you should be getting so annoyed over this. Even if we're both town, this is just a game.

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Seems like Jester is a little annoyed that they got caught as scum for the wrong reason, unfortunately.

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Seeya, friend. <3

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I will admit that cerb might be town, he hasn't really done anything that bad so far.
Jester and SS need to die though.

I've never actually indulged with homestuck.

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Love you too SS <3

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Can't agree with you Arthur, Mini is reading town to me.

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I had more to go off and I could focus them more because there was less people.
I'm way out of my depth in a game with like fifty gorrillion people so I'm just deathtunnelling whatever I find scummiest.

I wanted to pair with Parama

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Dunn, I was referring to shadow, they went through at the same time and I didn't get the chance to review for some reason.

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@HS: Do you sincerely believe deathtunneling is going ot be more useful for you in determining individuals alignments than actually look at the game as a whole?

I will admit I regret the postspam which has inflated the postcount and made it hard to catch up for the others, but I don't think my reads or actions themselves have been bad.
I'm not just deathtunnelling for the sake of deathtunnelling, and I'm not leaving anybody out either.

@scout I was asking you alone because you were -here- and you had nothing in your iso. I wanted something in your iso.

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@Dunn
MDS and The Jester are close friends, they share a hydra as well. I'm pretty sure that's NAI.

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Kagami: Towny. I don't see scum being anywhere as 'frank' with his posting as he is.

Cerb: Unsure. Post more. Could easily go either way.

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@scout I find it really fucking hard to read people without an avatar.
It's a shitty excuse, but trust me, it pisses me off just as much as it pisses you off.

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@scout I find it really fucking hard to read people without an avatar.
It's a shitty excuse, but trust me, it pisses me off just as much as it pisses you off.

ISO them? Yes, it's a shitty excuse.

Sorry, I've got nothing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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He's posting really 'milktoast'.
It's hard for me to interpret Cerb's personality and the kind of person cerb is at this point, and that is intrinsic to how I read anybody.
So I'm holding off for now.

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It's easier for me to get a handle of a person's personality and how they act if I can mentally correlate it to a picture.
I'll get around to it later in the game.

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Parama it's ok we've already confirmed ss as scum

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It's easier for me to get a handle of a person's personality and how they act if I can mentally correlate it to a picture.

nah but seriously this is why i fucking hate it when people change avatar

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@parma
Yeah, I changed my mind kinda.
146 screams distancing to me, but as the game went on and cerb ignored me more and more I realized maybe his ignorance isn't an act and he literally just does not care. Part of pushing it so hard was to see how jester and cerb react in unison, and Cerb output a lot of lukewarm posts that kinda made me go 'eh' whereas Jester just got WORSE AND WORSE.
So I'm putting the slot on hold for a while.

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@pieguyn
I am sitting centimeters away from my DJDAO FP7 as I am typing this message.
Mei is up there. It's difficult to pick a favorite.

Shadow, the current proposal is that you're left out of the dance. Is there anyone you'd like to nominate as more-likely-scum-than-you, who we should consider instead? (And why)

eeeuggh. this gives off some serious bad vibes.

Why? Vedith's trs on Dunn and Mariar helped us carry last game, remember.
SS is flipping scum anyway so w/e.

Dunn and Scout are probably town.

@Parma
I never said Jester was lurking.
Jester avoids people who can scumread her. He's done this in the past, and in that particular circumstance I was willing to bet he'd do it again. I put a post there calling him out on it, accusing him of sitting back because if he then responded to it it confirms that he -is- reading the thread and is -choosing- to not post.

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Dude if you're in love just admit your love while the game has still a slight amount of romance.

Well I know I've already picked up a partner, but I think I might have recently fallen for pieguyn

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@Scout
There's my read on cerb for you, dunn's probably town to me and I'm pretty happy sheeping that for now

[Human Sequencer]

pieguyn you're making me uncomfortable D:

@scout you wanted a read on cerb, there's the read on cerb

PEDIT

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I've already written my catch up post, but before I post it could I have a top three scumreads and townreads from you, Vedith?

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No details or reasoning, just
Scum
1.
2.
3.

Town
1.
2.
3.

[Human Sequencer]

allright this was the post at the time

Males:
Jester is probably scum
I am town
Arthur is town
Cerb is town by proxy of pie and dunn
mhsmith is ??? null af
Gamma is either town or scum based on flips
Dunn is town
Shadow is probably scum

Females:
MDS is maybe town
You are town
Nahdia is conftown
Pie is towny

Vedith is a scummy scum!

Kagami is towny
Mariar is kinda town

Vedith/Gamma is best lynch

VOTE: Vedith/Gamma

Vedith's entire play is him -acting- like his abrasiveness while he's town, but he's not town so it's muted, blunted and not as powerful. he's also putting -so much more- effort into actual gamesolving this time around and fucking around -so much less-
vedith never tunneled before, he played logically using PoE to find town which then let him find scum. this game he's got his sights set on mariar being confscum from word go, and his reasoning isn't even that solid. if dunn/mariar is obvfake, where is his scumread on dunn? <--- this isn't valid anymore because he does heavily scumread Dunn based on his previous post, he just wasn't pushing it

If Vedith ended up being town, we have

six

ten valuable reads we can use from a confirmed town who isn't a fucking idiot.

Alright after that readslist you actually look heaps better.

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@vedith Could you explain your read on scout for me?

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Holy shit lynch this ^

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VOTE: Shadow Mariar

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@vedith

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Well yeah, scum would say that :^)

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Scout, don't take that as a personal attack on you being scummy.
I pointed you out because you were a null read at the time, and you had literally just posted. Null reads make me uncomfortable, and you having just posted means you're actively a part of the thread.

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I'm pretty sold on parama town.
I highly doubt scumParama would keep pushing the shadowstep 'slip' even though it's a moot point by now, and there's some good content in our PT.

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Wait, I thought that was a joke earlier.
How could I be buttering you up when you're a scumlean?

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No, but having Dunn as scum did help you a whole bunch, same with a bunch of your townreads.
You went from 'this is obviously scummy, lynch this' to 'oh, that makes a little more sense, but this slot is still a little suss'

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I'm not townleaning vedith.
Please read the thread.

That post literally does not even make sense. That's an empty jab at a stone wall.

I will happily answer any questions you have but I must ask you to word them a little more legibly.

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You raise a good point, but no way am I just handing Vedith a townread with that logic alone, that's akin to handing him the game if he's scum.
Saying 'anybody who scumreads their partner isn't scum!' is ludicrous.
It's also wifomy as fuck.

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@Gamma, could I please have your recollection of your PT so far?

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I think I'm getting the hang of games with more than 9 people. This is really fun and interesting.
Again, fucking incredible setup, mod.

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@HS maybe it's me but it looks like you can't decide on your judgement criteria

Vedith's entire play is him -acting- like his abrasiveness while he's town, but he's not town so it's muted, blunted and not as powerful.

You went from 'this is obviously scummy, lynch this' to 'oh, that makes a little more sense, but this slot is still a little suss'

First you scumlean on him for not being as decisive and aggressive as town!Vedith is - and rightfully so- but then you townlean on him for not being so blunt and seeing him coast, leaving his options open.
Which is it?

Am I getting clarification?
It really just seems like you're scared of talking to me because you're scared of slipping up even more.

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Vedith, would you say this is accurate and fair?

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You made two posts out of 9? Hm.

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Vedith, you implied that you were pushing Gamma in your PT after we were discussing how you had him at #3 scumread.
I don't see much 'pushing' in that recollection.

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OK.
I still really want shadow/mariar gone, and if mariar flips town vedith/gamma are a great d2 lynch.

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Yeah, the more Vedith talks to me the more realistic it becomes.
ISO reads are horrible tbh. You gotta talk to people to get a real understanding of their intentions.

Kagami, what do you think of cerb? If you townread him I will become only more confident in my 'sheep everybody who townreads cerb' read.

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But on the other hand holy fucking shit does he feel off. I will be very uneasy if vedith dodges the rope to lylo.

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Doesn't seem like you see any reason to discuss anything :V

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Big ol' readslist on everybody in the game with some pretty solid and consistent reasoning to back them up, except for this one which gave me a giggle.
'Shadow_step: 100% scumflip'

I won't share too much detail because she said to me she wants to keep her reads at least somewhat secretive, I think she wants to dodge the nightkill, but I think we're pretty good candidates for it anyway depending on how cerb acts.
She's told me she won't use it after intermission.

She's at work right now, so she'll probably be around in a few hours.

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No way if mariar flipped scum.

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'Parama saying she was going to sleep and she didn't wanna come back to too many posts literally made me wanna punch a wall. Seriously anyone who's town and spamming the thread this much needs to realize they are benefiting scum a lotttttt more than town.'
I will take some of the blame for this earlier in the game. If I keep doing it, call me out on it.

Good point on Dunn. Very good point on Dunn. I don't feel like I'm scrutinizing him enough, but he'll be a lot easier to sort once mariar flips I feel. Or maybe it'd only complicate the matter. Hum.

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Please don't attack me, for I'm not attacking you.

The reason I can't elaborate is because I don't understand what you were asking in post 1109. I have politely asked you to restate it.

I am not superior to you and getting angry will not help you win this game regardless of your alignment. However, ignoring what I've said earlier to dodge the question will help you lose as scum.

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@jester
Do I really have to respond to this, guys?
I think there's better things you can do than insult my intelligence, especially if you really are town.

At the time you asked, I hadn't expressed a townread for Vedith, so the question is invalid because your argument uses it as a foundation.
Since then, however, I have changed my mind and can consider Vedith town if Mariar flips scum. I have expressed this opinion clearly in thread and I don't think it's a stretch to reach that conclusion.

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Shadow step, you know first hand what kind of damage that attitude can have to town.
SAD has a very valid point. Conciseness is a virtue, and a bogged thread with pages and pages of useless posts is a massive demotivating factor to any budding townie looking for scum.
Scum don't need to read the thread, they already know everybody's alignment.

@jester
I'm not angry at you, you're angry at me.

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I care what you think because a positive thread with positive posts makes a more entertaining game.

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@arthur I was actually considering a plan like that before
No thanks though.

@shadow
This is a misrepresentation.
I want a positive thread with positive players-- regardless of alignment.

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Shadow step, you know first hand what kind of damage that attitude can have to town.
SAD has a very valid point. Conciseness is a virtue, and a bogged thread with pages and pages of useless posts is a massive demotivating factor to any budding townie looking for scum.
Scum don't need to read the thread, they already know everybody's alignment.

@jester
I'm not angry at you, you're angry at me.

Terrible post.
What others consider useless post is what I work with. Just because he doesn't want to read the game doesn't mean that everyone should limit their posting. Scum will hide in a lot of posting as much as hiding in a quiet town. The only difference with what SAD wants is that less information comes out of it.

There's a balance between raving lunatics and a group of lurkers.
'More information' is great, people literally replacing out because we posted 40 pages in 24 hours is not.

@pieguyn
I see a lot of consistent scumhunting, consistent townhunting and a desire to stay alive through intermission as towny.
I find it incredibly unlikely scum would push the 'shadow scumslip' as hard and for as long as she did.

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Pieguyn, sell me on that wagon.
My scumread of jester is weakening and I have nothing on mds.

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Also I think shadow is better because it gives town a whole bunch of info post-flip.

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Remember Kagami Mariar dies with Shadow.

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Also I think shadow is better because it gives town a whole bunch of info post-flip.

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Read over Vedith and Dunn in relation to Mariar and get back to me on that.

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Shadow-mariar scum-scum would be high layrios.

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'Not Voting [5] - The_Jester, inspectorscout, Cerberus v666, mhsmith0, MiniDeathStar'
This is not ok.

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^goodposting

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@nahdia
^more goodposting
My pair is probably t/t
Cerb might be t/t
arthur/scout is probably t/t

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I BUDDY AT ALL TIMES I'M A FRIENDLY PERSON OK :<

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I'm more worried about people refusing to take a stance on the three main wagons we've got right now.

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I wish all mods were more like fakegod tbh.

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OH WOOOW JD GOING FOR THE BUDDY POINTS

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Fuck I scumslipped my name, lynch me now tbh

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I don't trust you as much~
Besides that your reads are probably trash~
Just like last game~

By all means, go ahead.

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You.

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Except that time where you tried to switch the wagon onto me~
When did I buddy you this game?

MH, I understand where you're coming from and that post rose an eyebrow for me, but I really do think Scout just made a dumb mistake and that you're chasing a red herring.
Scumscout forgets that nahdia is IC 'Oops, I shouldn't have said that, that makes no sense'
Townscout forgets that nahdia is IC 'Oops, I shouldn't have said that, that makes no sense'
NAI.

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OK now maybe you're onto something MH.

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Parma is right by the way, Shadow literally just lied about his perspective at an earlier point in the game.
We can't not lynch shadow today. No way.

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He literally just told me he's unsure. How is that biased?

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@mh, I am unfamiliar with the term 'WK', could you please educate me?

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Ah ok. Thanks.

Scout calm down, he literally never even called you scum lmao

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@Dunn
I don't trust you as much because my Pie townread is stronger than my Dunn townread, and I was being coy that entire post.

Like I said, feel free to go right ahead and convince me on Jester/mini.

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But your posts are mostly contentless, and you admitted to that.
Activity on its own is a horrible tell. I'm townreading Pie based on the decisions she's made and what she's posted, not the fact that she's posted fuck all.

This is circular. I would like Pie to explain it, but if you want to and your logic is sound, sure I'll consider jumping over (ok probs not shadow is a black hole of scumminess)
>why don't you want me to explain the wagon
>i do, go ahead
>no, go ask pie
???

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@dunn on 888
well this is what i had to say about it in our PT
'mini: 'But he's *not* going to be scum for """lurking""" or """scum pair with IC""".'
funny how she puts quotation marks around (lurking) even though that's not a fucking quote because it's not what i fucking said lmao'

apart from that, looks anti-town af but not particularly scummy tbh, her reasoning on shadow is weak but not scummy.

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I understand Sir Arthur thought it was the scummiest post since the invention of the wheel but I don't get why, I wouldn't mind an explanation at all though

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More like just not mentioning it, I had it in my mind at the time but didn't put it in the post.

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It's not scummy at all though, it's just retarded and anti-town...?

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skill :^)

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I'm supposed to have controversial reads to be town? Wow, thanks, I'll write this down for next time I'm scum.

RIP

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ahahahahaahhaahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
please do leave the dance for us, it'll be the most pro-town thing you can do~

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>literally scumslips
>n-no i was j-joking g-guys

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It's written from the perspective of 'I'll keep that in mind for next time {i have to pretend to be town}' implying that you're going to use what you learned -this time- to do better -next time-
Also, I thought you were being sarcastic and making a joke?

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Sorry arthur, when you think about it a little her explanation does check out.

Can we please lynch Mr. Obvscum (shadow) now?

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@dunn
netflix and chill?

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Nah I think mini/jester can do with some leaving
I think you mean townies should never leave the dance

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I don't understand what you're trying to say here
Are you trying to show that kagami is scummy for sheeping? I don't get it, I need Jester's retard translation again

@arthur
Yes all of those pairs need to go asap, shadow first
I agree with you by the way, but I agree with nahdia more (FIND TOWNS, LYNCH EVERYBODY ELSE)

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Uh
Ok
Kagami is town
Vedith is probably town*
You are kinda town

*only if mariar flips scum

[Human Sequencer]

idk explaining reads is haaaaard
he posts like town
vedith is a highly fluctuating slot

Really gotta sleep guys, if I wake up and shadow is still alive i'll be kinda annoyed tbh

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@dunn don't call me a loser, you'll make me

@mini did i say anything negative? i was trying to take the piss out of myself. it was supposed to be a joke.

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I'm here. Ask me now.

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BTW I just caught up.
All I got was
>why isn't shadow dead yet lmao

[Human Sequencer]

I don't have any associative tells based on Kagami, if that's what you're asking.

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Parama and I have cleared each other in the PT btw so we're pretty much masons to each other now \o/

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Ask me to explain my tells on anybody that's 'towny' and 'scummy' and I'll give you the same response.
For instance:
'Why is Dunn a townlean?'
'eeeeeeeeeeeehhhh idk it's tough, it depends a lot on what they do and stuff, idk'
^not an actual quote, just an example

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"sheeping dunn" SCUM

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You did the exact same thing last game dunn -.-
Associative tells before flips.

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Well it makes me trust Kagami's reads even more now, because what he said about HS/Parama t-t is true, and scum outing a t-t pairing is a ~very bad idea~

I mean I know I'm scum in your fairy world, but in my reality I'm town and so is Para

Vedith's scumread on gamma hasn't gone anywhere?

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i still love you dunn, let's get buttery after this game

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So uh, when are we lynching shadow, guys?

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I said when not why. I'm with you on this one, remember?

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btw you all need to be townhunting. Object of the game is to find a pair you believe is town/town, have it survive the intermission (which generally means finding two pairs you believe to be town/town at this stage), and kill all other pairs including your own indiscriminately.

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Dunn/Kagami is probably town
I wish Cerb would post more so I can confirm him as town, still just sheeping the others on this
Arthur and Scout are towny, arthur moreso than scout

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And of course my pair

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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
walter white needs to die

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'Hey look how townie I am'
You're alive. If you know you're town, you can use VCA ~right now~ to analyze your wagon and point out who you think is most scummy, and we can use your views post-flip.

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Who do you think the scummiest person on your wagon is and why?

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I wasn't asking you ;.;

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So we can solve the game together like we did last game~
Parama being lady is the reason I swapped from lady to gentleman.

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ITT: Shadow is told by his scumbuddies to try and flip his wagon on me.

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HS, why did you ask Parama to dance with you?

Why did you ask this question?
It reads to me like scum trying to look towny with an empty question that goes nowhere.
Then once you realized my defense is rock-solid, and that I picked up on what happened in your scum PT, you withdrew it.
It really looks like you were trying to lead somewhere with that question, so why did you just throw your arms up in the air and give up?

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Combed through the iso.

Like you're so bloody deep you are trying to twist things to make people lynch me. Saying I lied which is complete BS.

Shadow put on a good act of not knowing parama's alignment before, but he let it slip here and also earlier on where he said that parama would be the 'next ML' somebody was going to push.
I would buy him townreading Para enough to confirm her, because that's what I'm doing, but then this happens later.

Parama just DIE

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His non-committal one line responses screams 'Scum who has given up and lost his will' to me. He's resigned to his fate. I feel like townShadow would be much more feisty with this kind of wagon on him.

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Kagami, you should vote shadow~

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You can't just make reads go away by calling them conf bias lmao

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Yeah what gamma said

Who do you think the scummiest person on your wagon is and why?

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I was just pointing out the fact that I asked him a question to help us forward the game in case of a shadow townflip and he literally just ignored me.

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townShadow, you can help us win this game if you give actual content on the people in it. Your position, townie getting rundown by a group of idiots being misled by scum, is a very important position that can swing the entire game in our favour.
You can help us win the game by giving us some townreads and scumreads, or pointing out some stuff we might have missed.

scumShadow, get lynched lol, or just leave the dance. it's obvious you don't want to put the effort in to even fake a convincing town working towards a town wincon, so lets get this over with?

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Shadow, this is goodposting. Why weren't you doing this all thread?

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lolwot
Both parama and I have pushed the shadow wagon beyond the depths of hell
Without us it probably wouldn't even exist

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Like seriously gamma look at how I interacted w/ Vedith earlier, if I was scum and shadow was scum there is no way I wouldn't switch to pushing the Vedith lynch.

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Do I even have to defend this? Do you guys think that's a scummy post?
That's like, incredibly townie, it's hilarious that you chose this post instead of the onehundred other's that I've made that actually -could- be misconstrued into being scummy

PEDIT: o im laffin nao

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Arthur is town, like really really really town. Parma and I talked about it a bit in our PT but I don't think I convinced her.

Still not sold on cerb town, he kinda worries me, but there's still so many people I townread townreading him, so I'm still sheeping that.
Shadow still needs to die. He's done an awful lot of goodposting and townposting, but it's still peppered with a bunch of scummy posts here and there.

Parma made some great points in this thread about gamma's contradictory reads, and he needs to die tomorrow.

I still think Jester is scummy, especially with how she's been around -less- when she doesn't have to defend herself.
>inb4 'OMG LURKING ISN'T SCUMMY GAIZ'
That's not the foundation of my argument, it's a supporting piece of evidence. Regardless of whether it's alignment indicative or not (I think it's situationally usable), it -is- anti-town.

Jester, who is the scummiest pair, and who is the pair you want to lynch the least apart from Nahdia/Cerb?

MHSMITH STOP BEING SO NULL
Can I please have some reads on HS-Parma, Shadow and an updated view on InspectorScout? I need some help sorting scout's slot in particular and am curious as to what you ended up making of his nahdia interaction.

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"Again, I'm not a she, as much as the idea of being lesbian with Mini turns me on."

I really am sorry I keep misrepping your gender, it's an honest mistake I swear.

I'm calling bullshit on that, by the way. Nobody consistently works 18 hours a day straight without working themselves to death in the western world. If you worked 12h a day consistently, that's 84 hours a week. Even with one day off, that's 72 hours a week, not counting whatever days you work 'over'. That's the kind of work you see in the worst Japanese work places, and in Japan they die at their mid 30s from stress and the definitely don't have the time to play mafia or maintain any kind of personal relationships outside of work.
I know this is all kinda irrelevant to whether you're scummy or not but seeing people bullshit and make excuses to not play the game when it's so easily refutable may not be alignment-indicative, but it is asshole-indicative. Just like replacing out of a game despite being able to play it, and letting another player sub into an unwinnable position.

I didn't want a readlist, I asked you for a pinpoint read on who you think is most scummiest and who you want to lynch. I would prefer more solid reasoning than ~literally none~

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I asked FakeGod for confirmation whether mayfiyoo would have daytalk in my confirmation PM, I got a yes. I've also been referencing mafia having daytalk all game, literally from like page 3 or something.
It's not a secret, why are people treating it like it is and that having that knowledge is alignment-indicative?

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'First dance will end if there are 12 players or fewer left alive or deadline is reached. During the intermission, Mafia may secretly force one of the dance pairs to leave. Second dance will then begin, and continue until the game's end.'
Guys, town doesn't lose when time runs out?
I can't see anything FakeGod has said that implies otherwise.

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Nahdia, please post more, your reads are incredibly valuable.

Tell me about Cerb, what does your pt contain and what is your read on him?

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mhsmith-pie needs to be closely scrutinized but it definitely doesn't need to be today when we have shadowmariar, jestermds and vedithgamma all very helpful and informative lynch targets which are all likely to hit scum and every single pair can't be classified as t-t by a longshot.
Dunn's incredible lust to point the wagon literally anywhere else is concerning.

I really think (and parma agrees) that this DP is dragging on without flips. Namely shadow.

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Vedith is pretty convinced that Gamma is scum based on the shadman/mariar flip.

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lolwot guys calm down
we just had two pairs one after the other say 'yeah i might as well just leave :<<<', the only one with a semi-valid reason is vedith and even that's ugh

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@inspector
wot

why is everybody posting readslists? uggg

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Actual reads with actual information and reasoning is 300% more helpful than a readslist
Any ol' scum can put pretty colours in a post and make it look like actual content

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^@mariar what the fuck is this post
'Justifying my reads with actual information which if consistent and logical can help clear me as town helps scum more than town blah blah blah despite this being almost one of the only things a VT can do you should be able to townread me based on other stuff'

???

@scout
mind telling me why?
guys it's not that hard to have reasons behind stuff
like i know i did this w/ kagami but kagami was an edge case that i had a townlean on

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But then you can use that, scum forcing themselves to change their actions based on who scumreads them, to catch scum.

???

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Like that's the holy grail of scumtells to me

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I find reads list more hurtful then helpful

You are right
Why did you post a readslist????????

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I'm questioning random players because I'm trying to sort players. Yknow, that thing townies do.

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Alright guys I scumread Shadow for literally no reason and you should all just take my word for it and lynch him :^)

Also parama is town, don't ask me why though :^)

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Examples?

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I am a scummy scum who is trying to avoid the need to fabricate reads because that might reveal my true alignment

Vedith, scum Mariar becomes more realistic every time she posts.
Can we knock out two mafioso with one lynch? The dream is real.

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If there is 0 scum in {Shadow, Mariar, Gamma, Vedith} I will eat my hat

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Faking consistent reads over eighty pages is ~not an easy task~

I am a scummy scum who is relying on the towncred partnering with shadow gave me to carry me through this dance phase

PEDIT: Hey, at least I'm laying my mind bare.

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Arthur, mhsmith, pieguyn, parama, vedith, nahdia, kagami
I at least townlean you all (except mhsmith, null) and you're all competent and you're actually thinking the game through.
Help me through this endless purgatory.
From the seven people above, could I please have the following
1. Reads on Gamma, Mariar, Vedith and Shadow, and whether you believe we should lynch them or not. They're prime lynch targets right now, and I really think it's good for town to remove them because with the post flip information we can probably steamroll the game with a HS-Parama-Nahdia-Arthur townblock, or something similar.
2. A read on Cerb. I really need help sorting this slot out, I can't read him for shit and I'm getting 'Cerb is scum' from the exact same posts others are reading as 'Cerb is town'
3. A read on mhsmith. Obviously mhsmith is exempt from this. Again, I'm having a really difficult time sorting this slot.
4. Literally anything else you think might be helpful to save me from the black hole I feel myself slowly pulled into.

Jester/mds is irrelevant and can be solved another day.

Oh fuck, there I go buddying again, might as well lynch me tbh

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Vedith please notice me senpai^^^

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'If so I'd also expect one of HS/Parama to be scum
I may just need HS/Parama to flip because so many scenarios involve scum in that pair'
Throw shade a little harder next time, we're town

'I'm just concerned that my reads are probably going to be ignored later on.'
If you are town I will absolutely use your reads post-flip.

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wew a lot of shit happened while i was away

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How did gamma roll scum two times in a row jej

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as far as i can tell:

nothing of interest happened while i slept.

i don't think there's any value to continued posting when we don't have flips, honestly.

ewwwwwww

hi, i've been ready for a flip since like page 20 and it's been utterly infuriating that nobody can seem to make up their mind on anything. all i see is talking in circles at this point. heck even the 15 or so pages i read yesterday didn't have a whole lot of useful new information on them

also i'm just really bored tbqh

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gamma
???
arthur isn't scum

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how tho

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aaaaaaaa this game is escaping me and i've been here the whole time aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa