Mini Normal 1843 - Endgame

[Creature]

More than 1/3 of the players.

[Creature]

When I'm undecided, I usually check the playerlist and the player positions, and I do something like "I doubt scum would be adjacent to each other"

[Raskolnikov]

LOL

[Creature]

I actually mean something like

3 - Titus
4 - Firebringer
5 - DrippingGoofball

being all scum

[Raskolnikov]

It's true that I don't understand why neither scum would sr me.
But GM had that awful turn on me in d3 and maria I feel like if she's WKing has committed to it pretty far (and I prefer GM>her atm but if she did start pushing me and it ended up as a 1v1 between us she'd probably get lynched instead).
Creature I felt like if he did turn late d3 it'd have been really awkward looking as well, and in general I think he only changes reads really gradually anyways.

[CloudKicker]

What is more believable ? that 2 scum somehow tred rask and are too deep into their tr or that rask is scum, 1 scum is tring her and only one townie is wrong on her ? ill take my chances

[CloudKicker]

rask is the scum pillar, when she goes down the game is won imo

[Creature]

Do you really depend on a Rask flip to solve the game (even a townflip)?

[BlackVoid]

Tell you what, lynch MariaR today. Take care of Rask tomorrow if she's town. One of us will die tonight. The other can force a Rask lynch by voting him.

[BlackVoid]

I'm comfortable leaving Rask for lylo because I have no doubt you (Cloud) will make sure he gets lynched. I'm less comfortable with the idea of lynching Rask, him flipping town, me getting nk'd and MariaR making it to lylo with GM, Jaack, Creature and Cloud. I don't really know what's going to happen in that lylo and I don't want a scenario where MariaR remains alive. If Cloud is the one that dies tonight, I'll make sure Rask is lynched next. But I want MariaR today.

[CloudKicker]

I agree but i might not be able to lynch her alone bv, since if maria flip town and you die, everyone will push on gm (rask/jack) and if creature is with one of them (rask) then itll be hard

[CloudKicker]

Do you really depend on a Rask flip to solve the game (even a townflip)?

Yes

[Raskolnikov]

You guys talking about me like I'm the bogeyman or something.

[CloudKicker]

Rask whats your reads atm, you tried to remove your somehow hard tr on creature magically after the hoop flip, how convenient

[Jaack]

Well looking at partners for a second

GM/Rask doesn't make much sense to me due to Rask's push there on D2. If scum was planning on powerbussing, then the obvious target would have been sotty because sotty was in a weaker position than either rask or gm.

GM/Maria works pretty well.

Rask/Maria seems to work reasonably well too, but not as good as GM/Maria.

Rask/Creature is a strange one that I can see as concievable but it still feels weird.

Maria/Creature I have literally no opinion of. Someone tell me what I should think.

GM/Creature seems a little more likely than Rask/GM, only because GM didn't start scumreading creature really until AFTER sotty claimed tracker, which I guess makes more sense as a time to bus then immediately at the start of D2.

The least likely partnership is GM/Rask I think. Lynching Maria might make the most sense based on that alone....

[Raskolnikov]

Aside from that they haven't changed.

I'm waiting on something atm but this game is kicking into gear soon don't worry.

[BlackVoid]

I agree but i might not be able to lynch her alone bv, since if maria flip town and you die, everyone will push on gm (rask/jack) and if creature is with one of them (rask) then itll be hard

It won't because if MariaR is lynched and somehow flips town, it will be lylo with five players. Two scum, three town. If you vote Rask and no one hammers, that confirms either you or Rask as scum. Since no one is dumb enough to scumread you, Rask will be pretty much confirmed scum and will be lynched tomorrow. Then you get nk'd and the final three would be Jaack, GM, and Creature. Hopefully Jaack will make the right decision there.

[CloudKicker]

true, i have 0 experience with how ppl hammer on forum mafia, on em tho mafia might slowroll just to be sure they have the win tho, if ure really sure ill vote mariar but i want rask

[BlackVoid]

What I'm really sure of is that at least one of Rask or MariaR are scum. Vote her with me and if you get nk'd, I'll make sure Rask goes tomorrow.

I forgot I wasn't even voting her.

VOTE: MariaR

[Creature]

Need the VC.

[Creature]

VOTE: MariaR

I think just BlackVoid and I voted.

[CloudKicker]

VOTE: MariaR get rask tomorow @bv

[CloudKicker]

L-2

[BlackVoid]

It's four to lynch so it's L-1 but I don't really mind if anyone hammers so I'm leaving my vote there. Also, yeah if she flips town, we lynch Rask.

[BlackVoid]

UNVOTE:

On second thought, ending the day now isn't a good idea. I want goodmorning to come and post reads, thoughts, opinions, make cases on scumreads and so on. Same with Rask.