Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

[MathBlade]

Giovanni Can you tell me what happens if you hit an ascetic please?

[MathBlade]

Narna you as well what happens if you target an ascetic?

[Skullduggery]

Day 5, Vote Count #5

Current Vote Count:

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SirCakez

(0)

Giovanni il Pellegrino

(0)

Maxous

(0)

MathBlade

(0)

PeregrineV

(0)

Nahdia

(1)

Accountant -- Almost50

(0)

Not Chara

(0)

Ankamius

(0)

BigYoshiFan

(2)

Narna -- SirCakez, Accountant

(3)

Almost50 -- Narna, BigYoshiFan, Maxous

(0)

Pine

(0)

massive

Not Voting:

PeregrineV, Ankamius, massive, Pine, Not Chara, Giovanni il Pellegrino, Nahdia, MathBlade

With 14 votes available, it takes 8 votes to hammer.

Day 5 Will End on Wednesday, December 14th, at 10 p.m. Eastern Time
Countdown: (expired on 2016-12-14 22:00:00)

[MathBlade]

I kinda want to vote for a draw

This was discussed in the hood last night and two of us are ok with this.

This post will be important.

[Accountant]

Or at least not scum. In Andrius's case probably SK or town prob not group scum. Leaning latter but SK possible.

It simply is NOT possible for everyone in there to be Town when:

1- SC's role get leaked in there and then he gets RB'd
2- Titus gets NK'd after joining (I still need to know WHEN she joined in).

IF we are to trust Andrius that Titus knew his role (she didn't object to his statement that she did) it makes Firebringer (Accountant now) the most likely scum person (yes, SCUM neighbourizer IS a thing, and especially so in a bastard game).

However, Andrius may have tricked Titus into believing he had a role that he didn't, and thus it could be still Andrius (Pine now) who is scum. The weak side of this narrative is how did he trick Titus into it w/o attracting Firebringer's attention? They must've talked to each other in the PT, and thus FB must've seen it too. However, Andrius kept saying TITUS knew his role, not Titus and Firebringer, although Andrius had already acknowledged he was neighbourized by FB anyway, but didn't mention Titus was until she flipped.

VOTE: Accountant

You said I was null and SirCakez was scum, then vote me the moment someone indicates they might sheep that wagon. You can swing with Narna, tyvm

[Accountant]

I just got confirmation from Skull that Shiro was a standard miller, as can be read on the wiki. My speculation of him being a variant "global miller" is wrong. Shiro,

as a miller

, somehow got the attention of a scum framer, or Narna lied. Someone please tell me if there's some other possibility I'm not seeing. No, it can't have been redirected, we've been over that.

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[Accountant]

Narna didn't lie. I don't think. Titus told Narna to check Shiro. SCUM knew that was a very likely check to happen, and the framer did his job.

Mod can we have 2 lynches in 1 day plz I really want to kill this person and narna

[Accountant]

No comment on neighbourhood except to confirm math isn't in it right now.

[MathBlade]

I just got confirmation from Skull that Shiro was a standard miller, as can be read on the wiki. My speculation of him being a variant "global miller" is wrong. Shiro,

as a miller

, somehow got the attention of a scum framer, or Narna lied. Someone please tell me if there's some other possibility I'm not seeing. No, it can't have been redirected, we've been over that.

VOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: NarnaVOTE: Narnav

Narna is framed. I am this close to being able to demonstrate how. Just give me a minute.

[MathBlade]

No comment on neighbourhood except to confirm math isn't in it right now.

May I ask questions about the hood? I want to verify something.

[Almost50]

Or at least not scum. In Andrius's case probably SK or town prob not group scum. Leaning latter but SK possible.

It simply is NOT possible for everyone in there to be Town when:

1- SC's role get leaked in there and then he gets RB'd
2- Titus gets NK'd after joining (I still need to know WHEN she joined in).

IF we are to trust Andrius that Titus knew his role (she didn't object to his statement that she did) it makes Firebringer (Accountant now) the most likely scum person (yes, SCUM neighbourizer IS a thing, and especially so in a bastard game).

However, Andrius may have tricked Titus into believing he had a role that he didn't, and thus it could be still Andrius (Pine now) who is scum. The weak side of this narrative is how did he trick Titus into it w/o attracting Firebringer's attention? They must've talked to each other in the PT, and thus FB must've seen it too. However, Andrius kept saying TITUS knew his role, not Titus and Firebringer, although Andrius had already acknowledged he was neighbourized by FB anyway, but didn't mention Titus was until she flipped.

VOTE: Accountant

You said I was null and SirCakez was scum, then vote me the moment someone indicates they might sheep that wagon. You can swing with Narna, tyvm

I can do as I please. I'm supposed to be recklessly annoying, remember? I won't be annoyed myself if you try to make a push on me. Let's see what you've got. Either come up with some reason(s) why I'm wrong here or show the class how I make sense as scum in any way, shape or form.

[MathBlade]

Specifically was the person added to the hood N2 talkative? If 0 is crickets and 10 is the Super Bowl how loud would you classify their posts? This is a subjective question the numbers are a guide.

[MathBlade]

Andrius (or anyone else in the hood) is also welcome to answer.

[MathBlade]

I am imagining Titus in the dead PT going "Why MathBlade Why"

Because what I am about to post is Math levels of epic.

[MathBlade]

Okay well here goes: Maxous, Giovanni, and Not Chara are all scum together.

I do not believe Maxous is a roleblocker.
Giovanni I believe is a scum follower but I do not think it is even odd nights and I think something is off there.
Not Chara is the fake target scum agreed upon to keep the story straight.
The Creature roleblock claim today is to try to rolefish out if I am an investigative and the reason Creature can't confirm or deny is because he didn't submit anything. Poor guy apathy must have got him.

[MathBlade]

This begs the question how was Shiro roleblocked:

Answer Nahdia was redirected to Shiro N1.

[Nahdia]

wait

that's why not chara wasn't blocked night 3

[Nahdia]

fucking fucking fuck

[Nahdia]

I didn't fucking target anyone night 3 and Maxous' block failed.

fuck

[Nahdia]

VOTE: Maxous

[MathBlade]

The specific reason I doubt Giovanni is a town follower is because Giovanni would have been able to confirm the type of action Maxous took along with Narna. Combining that with Giovanni's opportunistic vote on Narna when they already had the innocent means something was up. Town PRs never vote their innocents.

[MathBlade]

I didn't fucking target anyone night 3 and Maxous' block failed.

fuck

Was getting to that XD.

[MathBlade]

Because Maxous was a claimed roleblocker N3 someone had to be the fall person.

At this point one of Nahdia or Maxous are confirmed scum. The only way this is not the case is if scum also knew Maxous was a roleblocker and Nahdia wasn't going to act as Nahdia's power is more powerful. The only way nonscum Nahdia would be known to not act is if she was in the hood as it wasn't announced publically to what I could find. This makes Nahdia scum which is a direct contradiction of assume one or the other not scum.

[Giovanni il Pellegrino]

The specific reason I doubt Giovanni is a town follower is because Giovanni would have been able to confirm the type of action Maxous took along with Narna. Combining that with Giovanni's opportunistic vote on Narna when they already had the innocent means something was up. Town PRs never vote their innocents.

So, if I am scum along with Maxous, why didn't I fake confirm the type of action he did? It is not hard to not say anything or, since Maxous had already said who he targeted when I said that something was up when I received his result, to confirm his type of action?

Narna's vote was not opportunistic, although it may seemed like it. It was just me saying "lay down the pitcforks and enough with the bullshit".

[MathBlade]

This also means scum redirector likely had no effect N3.

Then how does the Narna situation happen?

Answer: The scum have a framer that made it seem like Shiro was scum OR Narna is scum with those three.

I am leaning the first.