Ttyll Mafia - Game Over!

[Wisdom]

because theres information we dont have

hes town

[Mirhawk]

Are you saying that you have information that I don't or that he's town for providing information that town didn't previously have?

[Wisdom]

neither

[Mirhawk]

Then?

[texcat]

I don't think they can both be scum. Surely they would have come up with a more plausible scenario.

[Mirhawk]

Maybe, but Eager was already in hot water. If he did get lynched and was actually a tracker it would confirm ABR's role to town.

[texcat]

Were there any votes on Eager before ABR's claim? He wasn't in much trouble. Nothing that a little content wouldn't have fixed.

[Mirhawk]

I dunno I'd have to go back and check. I'll admit to being disfavorably inclined with regards to Eager beforehand due to his day one play though. I'm also still moderately surprised he didn't die night one.

[Ircher]

Day 2 VC #10

drealmerz7 (0) -
Vedith (1) - Albert
Aeronaut (0) -
Wisdom (0) -
eagersnake (4) - Vedith, Vaxkiller, Frank, Gale
texcat (0) -
Gamma Emerald (1) - White Queens
Albert B. Rampage (1) - Mirhawk
Gale Wing Srock (3) - Texcat, Gamma, Wisdom
PeregrineV (0) -
Frankjaeger (0) -
Mirhawk (0) -
Vaxkiller (0) -
White Queens (2) - Eager, Dreal
Not Voting (2) - PeregrineV, Aeronaut

Lynch Threshold

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch!

Deadline

Day 2 will end on December 11, 3:30 PM EST or in (expired on 2016-12-11 15:30:00).

Moderator Notes

V/LAs should be bolded in-thread.

Moderator V/LA December 9.

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 2

Dreal : White Queens --> Wisdom --> (Null) --> White Queens
Vedith : Gale --> Eager
Aeronaut : White Queens --> Texcat --> Gamma --> (Null)
Wisdom : White Queens --> Gamma --> White Queens --> Gamma --> Eager --> Frank --> Gale
Eager : White Queens
Texcat : Eager --> (Null) --> Gale
Gamma : White Queens --> Gale --> Wisdom --> Frank --> Vedith --> Eager --> (Null) --> Gale
Albert : White Queens --> Gale -> White Queens --> Vedith
Gale : Texcat --> Gamma --> Gamma --> Eager
Frank : Wisdom --> Eager
Mirhawk : White Queens --> (Null) --> Albert
Vaxkiller : Wisdom --> White Queens --> (Null) --> Eager
White Queens : Gamma

Spoiler: Past Voting History

Day 1

Dreal : Wisdom --> Diamond --> Wisdom --> BTD6_Maker --> Vedith --> BTD6_Maker --> Vedith --> BTD6_Maker --> Wisdom --> BTD6_Maker
Vedith : Frank --> White Queens --> Texcat --> BTD6_Maker --> BTD6_Maker

BTD6_Maker : Wisdom --> (Null) --> Albert --> Gale --> (Null) --> Vedith

Aeronaut : BTD6_Maker
Wisdom : Diamond --> White Queens --> Diamond --> Albert --> BTD6_Maker --> Eager --> White Queens --> BTD6_Maker
Eager : Diamond --> (Null)
Texcat : BTD6_Maker

Bullet : Diamond --> BTD6_Maker --> Gale --> Eager --> (Null) --> Vedith --> BTD6_Maker --> White Queens --> BTD6_Maker

Gamma : BTD6_Maker --> (Null) --> Wisdom --> Gale
Albert : Wisdom --> BTD6_Maker --> Wisdom --> BTD6_Maker
Gale : Wisdom --> Diamond --> Texcat --> BTD6_Maker --> Vedith --> Diamond --> BTD6_Maker
Frank : Diamond --> BTD6_Maker --> (Null) --> Vedith

Diamond : Wisdom --> Texcat --> Gale --> Wisdom

Mirhawk : BTD6_Maker
Vaxkiller : Wisdom --> Vedith --> Wisdom
White Queens : Wisdom --> Texcat --> Wisdom

Dawn 1

BTD6_Maker : Vedith --> White Queens --> Vedith

Vedith : ThinkBig
Aeronaut : Albert
Copper : Dreal
Eager : Diamond
PeregrineV : Aeronaut --> (Null) --> BTD6_Maker
Vaxkiller : Vedith --> Diamond --> Wisdom
White Queens : Wisdom

[Mirhawk]

Gyaahh I painted myself into a corner, I think I have to shut up now.

[eagerSnake]

I still can't believe I was watched tracking someone who didn't go anywhere #failedtracker

[Wisdom]

why did you track gamma?

[eagerSnake]

Obviously I was hoping I'd catch him committing a kill

[Gale Wing Srock]

Toss between Wisdom, ABR, and yourself so no PRs are hit. Eager tracking Gamma is BS, of all people why Gamma? Makes no sense to me.

Unless Eager is scum and was PR hunting.

VOTE: Eager Snake

Another terrible vote from Gale.

What are you talking about "no PRs are hit"? Then you turn around and vote for a PR?

VOTE: Gale

I said Eager must be scum because I can't believe Town Tracker to be tracking someone like Gamma.

Your point is invalidated because Eager's alignment itself is being questioned here. So him being PR or not is irrelevant.

Also if we assume you to be scum with Eager, then this post means you slipped up that he is actually a scum PR.

[Gale Wing Srock]

Obviously I was hoping I'd catch him committing a kill

Can you tell me how/why you decided on Gamma?

[Gale Wing Srock]

@Eager Snake: Like what made you scum read Gamma and decide he is the optimum player to track.

[Gale Wing Srock]

Also

Vote: ABR

I keep saying it but there's no way he can have the information he's claiming to have.

He's probably scum with Eager, it's by far the simplest explanation.

The alternatives being;
1. Ved lied and is secretly a rolecop who targeted eager and can somehow communicate with his hood closed.
2. ABR is a mason in a group of masons that is apparently completely filled with PR's.
3. Someone bought the neighborhood item from the shop, which would have required them to make at least sixteen dollars night one. Diamond, who's character was a merchant only had an income of $4. This would require the person in question to me on the wagon, and have an income of $6.

I don't see any of those as being very likely, he's lying.

This is a very good deduction Mirhawk, but I would like us to lynch Eager in that scenario. Since:

A) If ABR is town he is more beneficial to us in the long run
B) Watcher > Tracker
C) Eager's flip will tell us about Texcat.
D) Eager lurks a lot. (number of posts as evidence: 22)

[Wisdom]

i hate the above post

[Gale Wing Srock]

Wait wait wait lol.

Did ABR claim that he also watched Gamma N1? That is ridiculous!

Code: Select all

The Voyeur is an informative role that can target a player at night and learn what was done to them that night (protection, investigation, etc), but not who did it.

Voyeurs can be of any alignment. 

Code: Select all

The Watcher is an informative role that can target a player at Night and learn who, if anybody, targeted that player the same Night (but not what actions were performed on that player). 

So what ever special watcher ABR is, he must have been on Gamma to see Eager do the informative role on him.

@

ABR

same question to you, what made you watch Gamma over anyone else in the game?

[Gale Wing Srock]

Maybe, but Eager was already in hot water. If he did get lynched and was actually a tracker it would confirm ABR's role to town.

Oh this makes sense.

UNVOTE: Eager Snake

[Gamma Emerald]

Gale I already quoted the post that expresses his concerns on me.

[Gale Wing Srock]

No votes on Eager between these posts 2049, 1925; and none to start with.

Although regardless of the pressure on Eager, the scum strategy that Mirhawk points out is still valid. I just don't feel it is concrete enough to call ABR scum.

[Gale Wing Srock]

@Gamma

Why are you being so careful? Seems off from what I'd expect from a town!Gamma. The town!Gamma I have experience with is not careful by any means

See?

Okies

But that adds more to my confusion

[drealmerz7]

fucking hell

I hate bringing personal life into mafia

but I feel the need a bit because I said I would be here with shit tonight -

my life has been turned upside down these past 3 weeks and I won't go into details - I have been distracting from the chaos with mafia because there's nothing I can do about what is going on, it's been good to do - tonight when I thought I was gearing towards spending my next 3-5 hours on mafia, there was an incident - I can't mafia, my brain is not here as much as I'd like the distraction, I can't focus here at all (I tried)

tomorrow is my day off work - I have about seventeen dozen things to do, plus mafia and I am quite sure that I will be able to mafia - it's just how it has to be, and I'm very sorry

if the deadline were closer I might force it from myself because I really really want to help solve this game, but it'd probably not be very good anyway (heyy, not because I suck, but because my brain isn't here), and since we still have some time, I am going to take it

[Gamma Emerald]

fucking hell

I hate bringing personal life into mafia

but I feel the need a bit because I said I would be here with shit tonight -

my life has been turned upside down these past 3 weeks and I won't go into details - I have been distracting from the chaos with mafia because there's nothing I can do about what is going on, it's been good to do - tonight when I thought I was gearing towards spending my next 3-5 hours on mafia, there was an incident - I can't mafia, my brain is not here as much as I'd like the distraction, I can't focus here at all (I tried)

tomorrow is my day off work - I have about seventeen dozen things to do, plus mafia and I am quite sure that I will be able to mafia - it's just how it has to be, and I'm very sorry

if the deadline were closer I might force it from myself because I really really want to help solve this game, but it'd probably not be very good anyway (heyy, not because I suck, but because my brain isn't here), and since we still have some time, I am going to take it

Um no I find this hard to believe.