Mini 1856 - This Mafia Game is for pieguyn (Game Over)

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #64 (isolation #0) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:11 am

In post 34, pieguyn wrote:
I am claiming backup innocent child.
this is not a joke or a gambit or whatever, this is a serious claim. the specific function of the role is that if an IC dies and has not used their ability, I'll inherit it (meaning, I don't get anything if an IC dies after they reveal). why am I claiming?

1. I expect that this setup is a huge clusterfuck, and probably role madness, and I want at least some setup-related info on the table early. moreover, I don't mind outing my role since it is not, in fact, a confirmed-town role and besides that it doesn't do anything at all. I don't really have anything specific in mind for where it's possible to go from here, before anyone asks, I just see absolutely no reason it's worth it to not claim.

2. I preempt that if I was to claim this later, people would go "lol nup fake role". to avoid stupid shenanigans, I would rather get it out of the way now.

also,

vote: Aeronaut

Um
I've heard this was fakeclaimed in Wake's RM game

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #72 (isolation #1) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:17 am

"Do I know these people?"
pieguyn: Seen them
Varsoon: Played with them
Luna Fox: Seen them
Gamma Emerald: Me!
Nahdia: Kinda
Wisdom: Played with them, but they don't think I know them still
drealmerz7: Kinda
SirCakez: Played with them
Aeronaut: Played with them
beeboy: Seen them
Dwlee99: Barely seen them
pisskop: Eh
mhsmith0: Kinda

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #82 (isolation #2) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:24 am

In post 76, pisskop wrote:
In post 72, Gamma Emerald wrote:"Do I know these people?"
pieguyn: Seen them
Varsoon: Played with them
Luna Fox: Seen them
Gamma Emerald: Me!
Nahdia: Kinda
Wisdom: Played with them, but they don't think I know them still
drealmerz7: Kinda
SirCakez: Played with them
Aeronaut: Played with them
beeboy: Seen them
Dwlee99: Barely seen them
pisskop: Eh
mhsmith0: Kinda
But, I know you the least out of this playerlist. These peeps are all oldblood

Same here bud

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #99 (isolation #3) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:58 am

Hm
Luna for blind spot scum
VOTE: Luna Fox

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #109 (isolation #4) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:03 am

In post 101, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 99, Gamma Emerald wrote:Hm
Luna for blind spot scum
VOTE: Luna Fox
Blind spot scum? Clarify what that means.

One that's slipping past everyone else

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #134 (isolation #5) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:34 am

In post 85, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 77, pieguyn wrote:
In post 71, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 69, pieguyn wrote:that specific post isn't town, I think, I'm town reading him for something entirely unrelated.
Oh but it is!
And i was townreading him since before, so why even bring that up?
no specific reason, I'm just getting a general feel of things.

if your reason for calling the post town is "scum don't question town reads on them", it's one of the easiest things in the world to fake.
Tee-Hee i know things you dont~
You seem to really like to apply your understanding of mafia globally dont you?

This post is susp af

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #138 (isolation #6) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:38 am

It's a jokey post but I see malice inside it

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #140 (isolation #7) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:41 am

The first line feels WIFOMy enough to feel scummy

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #154 (isolation #8) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:22 pm

why is dreal spazzing so hard

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #170 (isolation #9) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:14 pm

LIES!
There's no way Luna can br townreading FB based on his one post!

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #181 (isolation #10) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:17 pm

WOW
FIREBRINGER CAN PISS OFF FOR MAKING ME THINK I CAUGHT A SLIP

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #189 (isolation #11) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:21 pm

In post 166, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 161, pieguyn wrote:hoi Luna. what do your reads currently look like?

I saw 62, but that was about it.
Somewhere where im townreading everyone except you, drealmers, gamma, aero, dwlee (?) <- pending thing about the masons, Varsoon, Nahdia (she claimed not town so welp), and Wisdom.
And the Cakez townread is more of trusting bee's read.
I think that's about it.

Maybe if i posted my townreads in the usual pretty fashion would've looked less like rollon text.

Serious evaluation attempt:
she names 8/12 of the not-her players as possible scum, which looks really odd for this type of post.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #194 (isolation #12) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:23 pm

In post 188, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 181, Gamma Emerald wrote:WOW
FIREBRINGER CAN PISS OFF FOR MAKING ME THINK I CAUGHT A SLIP
I feel like townreading this.
No way a newbie scum player gets this excited about "catching a slip"

I'm not newbie scum tho
I've played like 4 scum games, some not fully complete but w/e
In my first one I freaked D1 when a player made a comment that looked like calling to a buddy

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #195 (isolation #13) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:23 pm

In post 192, Nahdia wrote:to be fair it's dwlee's first game in awhile.

No
IIRC he was in Family Mafia

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #198 (isolation #14) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:24 pm

In post 196, beeboy wrote:
In post 188, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 181, Gamma Emerald wrote:WOW
FIREBRINGER CAN PISS OFF FOR MAKING ME THINK I CAUGHT A SLIP
I feel like townreading this.
No way a newbie scum player gets this excited about "catching a slip"
I don't buy it, scum players can get excited about catching people slipping as well. It isn't even necessarily faked he could legit be unhappy about something like that as scum.

See beeboy understands the deal

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #207 (isolation #15) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:31 pm

In post 368, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 365, keyenpeydee wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mas Y Menos

Sheeping Comapring Realities

L-1

rb, this wagon isn't shit. Hop on.
WHAT
You pretty much doubled everyone's suspicions of you with that last line. You acknowledge L-1 AND THEN YOU TELL SOMEONE TO HAMMER?

This is the post I referred to from my first scum game.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #210 (isolation #16) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:34 pm

OK
Remember that was as scum

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #218 (isolation #17) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:43 pm

In post 214, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 211, drealmerz7 wrote:I have seen a new player roll scum and DESTROY town because they observered 2 games and knew what the fuck they were doing through and through
1 out of how many?
A good player that happened to manage to do that deserves the win, since they managed to fool everyone else.
I go by what's the norm behaviour i see from town and scum and try to incorporate a player's supposed experience into the mix + experiencial meta that i have with them if any.
In this way i can make better calls to find town and then just remove who's leftover.

BTW this actually answered a question I posed earlier

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #221 (isolation #18) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:49 pm

In post 189, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 166, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 161, pieguyn wrote:hoi Luna. what do your reads currently look like?

I saw 62, but that was about it.
Somewhere where im townreading everyone except you, drealmers, gamma, aero, dwlee (?) <- pending thing about the masons, Varsoon, Nahdia (she claimed not town so welp), and Wisdom.
And the Cakez townread is more of trusting bee's read.
I think that's about it.

Maybe if i posted my townreads in the usual pretty fashion would've looked less like rollon text.
Serious evaluation attempt:
she names 8/12 of the not-her players as possible scum, which looks really odd for this type of post.

This one, though I didn't phrase it as a question.
It was basically "why are you posting with this phraseology when the content doesn't fit?" but your explanation of your playstyle made it clear

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #233 (isolation #19) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:01 pm

SpicyJalapeñoKnocks buddy.
I did my research!

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #255 (isolation #20) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:15 pm

Ya the fact he won't read anything except for ISOs of cherry-picked people is a no-no
Wis ya fucked up
VOTE: Wisdom

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #268 (isolation #21) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:20 pm

Seriously
He vote parks and when asked to explain he backtracks saying "oh I'll read THESE posts"

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #270 (isolation #22) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:21 pm

Any other reads Wisdom?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #275 (isolation #23) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:25 pm

Why would you ISO Aero though?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #284 (isolation #24) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:31 pm

In post 275, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why would you ISO Aero though?

answer this Wisdom

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #294 (isolation #25) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:39 pm

In post 286, Wisdom wrote:
In post 284, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 275, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why would you ISO Aero though?
answer this Wisdom
i dont answer to dumb questions

ok

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #308 (isolation #26) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:58 pm

UUUHH
Hm...

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #309 (isolation #27) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 3:06 pm

Wisdom/beeboy scum together

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #316 (isolation #28) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 3:34 pm

Well beeboy needs to explain that townread on Wisdom better

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #318 (isolation #29) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:21 pm

I asked that question because why the fuck would he only ISO Aero?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #322 (isolation #30) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:29 pm

In post 236, Wisdom wrote:too many pages I'm not reading

my vote still looks good

No one asked him.
Nice try.
Voting Wisdom or smith rn

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #323 (isolation #31) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:34 pm

Also he plays large themes: not reading 10 pages is fucking weak.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #325 (isolation #32) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:36 pm

He wasn't asked IF, he was asked WHY.
And if he ISOed Aero, why not ISO a TR to get some extra opinions on things?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #329 (isolation #33) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:46 pm

Wisdom isn't normally a lazy player though.
Maybe there's something else going on?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #332 (isolation #34) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:53 pm

In post 330, mhsmith0 wrote:That said, Gamma, given your opinion of Wisdom, do you think Cakey is therefore town? That's Wisdom's current target; if Wisdom is scum, has he spewed Cakey town? Is that distancing? Do you have any opinion on what he's actually pushing right now?

Yes. I also think dreal is town.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #333 (isolation #35) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:54 pm

In post 331, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 329, Gamma Emerald wrote:Wisdom isn't normally a lazy player though.
Maybe there's something else going on?
Here's Wisdom in GoT (the game I was with him in)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
He doesn't seem horribly differnet here to there. Which game(s) have you played with him before that he seems differnet from?

Micro 647 and Death Note.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #335 (isolation #36) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:57 pm

I'm not saying his laziness is AI. I'm saying his selective ISOing is.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #337 (isolation #37) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:26 pm

If he was town he would have either done more ISOs or cone up with a different reason. Saying "I ISOed them" is a cop out.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #339 (isolation #38) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:40 pm

Also I very rarely don't read. The only time I did was because if I kept trying my play would have suffered.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #340 (isolation #39) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:42 pm

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=67979
Partway through Day 1 Zyf replaced in and filled the game with a whole bunch of crap, and I still read it all. Mostly because I had to to avoid getting lynched.
Huh.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #341 (isolation #40) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:43 pm

Seriously, read or leave Wisdom. It's ten fucking pages so unless Turkey Day really got to you you're a fucking lightweight.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #383 (isolation #41) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:22 am

k sweet

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #404 (isolation #42) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:50 am

72 was a conversation starter. I feel like it worked, even if it caused pisskop to vote me.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #405 (isolation #43) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:51 am

In fact pk's vote was an indicator of it working

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #407 (isolation #44) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:05 pm

As for 64 it was me stating I was skeptical of the claim. Doesn't necessarily mean I scumread Pie, I just am not sure about the claim. It's essentially a Named Townie for now.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #426 (isolation #45) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:47 pm

UNVOTE:
Wisdom is performing betterish.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #428 (isolation #46) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:10 pm

How the fuck did a wagon form on Varsoon

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #431 (isolation #47) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:13 pm

In post 429, pisskop wrote:Varsoon is a d1 wagon magnet.

so it was for the memes

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #433 (isolation #48) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:32 pm

and maybe Wis wouldn't be a fucking bab

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #439 (isolation #49) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:13 pm

As I see it he's not 1v1ing he's just saying "these guys aren't aligned together".

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #448 (isolation #50) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 2:53 am

aero has been playing

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #450 (isolation #51) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 3:00 am

ok blatant misrep ahoy
Wisdom needs to start playing too

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #551 (isolation #52) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:12 am

drealz is not impressing
Out of Luna/Aero I think I tr Aero more

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #584 (isolation #53) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:43 am

Actually, I'd be okay lynching Varsoon or dreal rn
something about their interactions doesn't feel like T v T.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #630 (isolation #54) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:31 am

OK
VOTE: drealmerz

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #645 (isolation #55) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:49 pm

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #655 (isolation #56) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:00 pm

I looked over Luna's ISO in Perfect Cherry Blossom and I don't see evidence of what she's saying.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #671 (isolation #57) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:22 pm

In post 655, Gamma Emerald wrote:I looked over Luna's ISO in Perfect Cherry Blossom and I don't see evidence of what she's saying.

Please address this Luna

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #675 (isolation #58) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:25 pm

I just checcked the game I remembered you being in.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #682 (isolation #59) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:29 pm

In post 678, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 675, Gamma Emerald wrote:I just checcked the game I remembered you being in.
And you discovered _____?

How about you not skip posts.
I did not find anything resembling whar Luna spoke of.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #726 (isolation #60) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 1:59 pm

dreal is at L-1

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #729 (isolation #61) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 2:13 pm

Isn't a mafia miller just a fancy goon

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #732 (isolation #62) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 2:16 pm

I mean role cops would get different results.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #774 (isolation #63) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:28 pm

I see this and I really want to comment but I don't really have much to contribute to the topic at hand
I think beeboy is likely right tho

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #777 (isolation #64) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:29 pm

@beeboy
What Luna did was read to a point and then skim.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #814 (isolation #65) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:51 pm

VOTE: SirCakez

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #846 (isolation #66) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:30 pm

VOTE: drealmerz

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #912 (isolation #67) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:21 pm

I voted Cakez because I saw false bravado

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #916 (isolation #68) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:25 pm

In post 812, SirCakez wrote:
In post 810, Wisdom wrote:sure i do.. Like 20% of the time

This is really a ridiculous point and the fact you keep pushing it just makes you look worse
Idgaf how I look

This one-liner feels like scum trying to fake a town tell.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #953 (isolation #69) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:40 pm

What?
64: I don't suspect the claim right now, I just made that comment because I thought it might be something to note, as well as possibly draw some scum into jumping on it.
255: IIRC this was my case on Wisdom. I figured the selective ISO was a lie to cover for himself.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1000 (isolation #70) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:02 pm

OK it seems Aero never adjusts her reads on things she's already made up her mind on.
I'll just never do anything she'll possibly see as scummy from now on then.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1011 (isolation #71) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:11 pm

why the fuck can't anyone spell lynch
either that or they're phoneposting too much

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1043 (isolation #72) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:33 pm

Pie are you OK with lynching now?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1051 (isolation #73) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:38 pm

In post 1048, Aeronaut wrote:What other points do you have besides that he's posting useless shit?

How about egging on the Luna-beeboy debate

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1097 (isolation #74) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:04 am

Would you have preferred I detailed my reasons for voting?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1099 (isolation #75) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:11 am

Well the reasons are already in the thread

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1102 (isolation #76) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:17 am

OK dreal is playing dumb now

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1109 (isolation #77) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:43 am

OK that's against the rules

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1112 (isolation #78) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:45 am

You're using a video to claim

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1126 (isolation #79) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:15 am

You're a double poster though

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1133 (isolation #80) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:14 am

*judo throws Nahdia back*
READ!

Gamma Emerald · Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:51 am

LOL
SirCakez and pieguyn

Gamma Emerald · Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:14 pm

In post 1205, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1195, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1189, SirCakez wrote:He's at L-1 beeboy? Pretty clear it's not working
I'm pretty sure wisdom is just scumreading anyone who disagrees with him
nice try at discrediting
It's true though
Youre scumreading basically everyone who isn't interested in lynching dreal

That's Wisdom for you

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1242 (isolation #83) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:32 pm

zzzz
Can you two stop I'm p sure one of you is scum causing trouble to distract from your buddy rn

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1269 (isolation #84) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:50 pm

VOTE: Draw
This is going nowhere.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1279 (isolation #85) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:03 pm

In post 1277, drealmerz7 wrote:here I am, without much time, I will do some catchup and see what you folks did all day

I do hope I'm not a prime candidate anymore...did you figure out my claim? *goes and reads*

claim in the thread

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1285 (isolation #86) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:19 pm

Wait what

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1287 (isolation #87) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:21 pm

Are you seriously both a mason and a neighbor?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1301 (isolation #88) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:34 pm

I dont remember that

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1331 (isolation #89) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:49 pm

The fuck
Why would Doc hammer

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1339 (isolation #90) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:51 pm

So far we have
Backup IC
Backup Doc
I see where this is going

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1348 (isolation #91) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:53 pm

dreal if I didn't know better I'd say you were claiming scum

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1381 (isolation #92) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:09 pm

She's upset he's pushing her over missing details in Aero's posts. Luna is exaggerating the issue from what I see.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1384 (isolation #93) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:10 pm

In post 1381, Gamma Emerald wrote:She's upset he's pushing her over missing details in Aero's posts. Luna is exaggerating the issue from what I see.

@Varsoon

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1416 (isolation #94) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:27 pm

In post 1413, Varsoon wrote:How does the Drealz claim change your read on Drealz?

And on Varsoon

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1560 (isolation #95) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:42 pm

In post 1502, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1492, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1487, Wisdom wrote:Her play is all shrug this and shrug that and calling cakez town and varsoon scum based on nothing
this is total bullshit too
She's said like 10x as much as wisdom about those reads
yeah because more words = more town clearly

She's talked less and said more maybe?

Edited to fix format. Make sure you check that "Disable BBCode" is unchecked on full posting screen.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1562 (isolation #96) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:44 pm

In post 1502, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1492, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1487, Wisdom wrote:Her play is all shrug this and shrug that and calling cakez town and varsoon scum based on nothing
this is total bullshit too
She's said like 10x as much as wisdom about those reads
yeah because more words = more town clearly

In post 1507, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 1489, SirCakez wrote:he literally said he thought pies claim was town like two pages ago
Because backup IC would be an absurd scum fakeclaim
Really:
In post 1186, Wisdom wrote:if it wasnt for her claim id be thinking pie is scum
This is the first sign of scumreading pie for her play, yet letting her off due to her claim.
In post 1355, Wisdom wrote:cakez/aero/pie?

or maybe luna instead of pie
And he started including her in his scumpool here.

So no, Wisdom isnt doing what you're saying he's doing.

I had a post saying I agreed with cakez but this changes things

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1564 (isolation #97) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:53 pm

In post 1460, Luna Fox wrote:Besides,
Haven't you ever played tit for tat? it's entirely possible there's a scum doctor that if we kill drealmerz becomes a doctor.
And considering we have 2 backups already (tho i dont think a scum GC is likely unless it's there entirely for the purpose of triggering the backup IC if they dont trigger their GC).

The fuck? A) that's a JK and B) in order for scum doc to be useful a vig/SK needs to be present

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1571 (isolation #98) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:30 pm

In post 1570, Dwlee99 wrote:A scum doc can also be used to fool gunsmiths or followers. I used it for that in my game. Also vigilante is kinda likely in a role madness. Scum doc seems plausible to me.

That's not something I considered, thanks for that.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1587 (isolation #99) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:04 am

VOTE: pisskop

Gamma Emerald · Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:05 am

Not into that bud

Gamma Emerald · Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:07 am

Why are you saying no take-backsies

Gamma Emerald · Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:10 am

In post 1592, pisskop wrote:VCA says that Gamma is scumfucker

I fucking hate you.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:11 am

In post 1596, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 1592, pisskop wrote:VCA says that Gamma is scumfucker

VCA sux
, but i didnt like that naked vote either.

Yeah I thought you hated D1 VCA

Gamma Emerald · Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:13 am

In post 1598, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 1591, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why are you saying no take-backsies
What was the point of this question.
Like what does saying No Take Backsies have anything to do with pisskop's alignment.

I think Pie is Town and I don't like the fact he's voteparking on her.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:14 am

More seriously, VCA only works if you understand the WHY.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:21 am

In post 1606, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 1602, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1598, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 1591, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why are you saying no take-backsies
What was the point of this question.
Like what does saying No Take Backsies have anything to do with pisskop's alignment.
I think Pie is Town and I don't like the fact he's voteparking on her.
And so why aren't you interacting with Wisdom who has said pie's scum for a few pages now.
Why didnt you react to when i thought pie was scum.
But only to pisskop's vote on pie.

Because I didn't notice your SR, and I felt Wisdom's was stupid because he's just thrown me out as town. I don't think I've really done anything to deserve that.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:25 am

Luna is solid town
Wisdom IDK

Gamma Emerald · Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:46 am

In post 812, SirCakez wrote:
In post 810, Wisdom wrote:sure i do.. Like 20% of the time

This is really a ridiculous point and the fact you keep pushing it just makes you look worse
Idgaf how I look

@Pie: thoughts on this post?

Gamma Emerald · Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:02 pm

In post 584, Gamma Emerald wrote:Actually, I'd be okay lynching Varsoon or dreal rn
something about their interactions doesn't feel like T v T.

Well I made this comment before, and I believe dreal, so Varsoon is an okay wagon.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:09 pm

In post 1631, Dwlee99 wrote:Wisdom gives me bad vibes cause I feel like his authoritative tone just saying "no x is scum not y" could be used to deflect lynches off of his scum buddies or something.

Have you never played with Wisdom

Gamma Emerald · Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:54 pm

IDR where my vote is
UNVOTE:

VC please

Gamma Emerald · Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:52 pm

Why claim a hood for scum chat?
You get fucked once one of you flips.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:54 pm

No, because when one flips non-neighbor everyone's dead.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:28 pm

Well damn.
I doubt drealmerz is backing up the faith healer, as Deputy cannot back up a Neapolitan.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:11 pm

You idiots really need me to do this?
I'm VT so your role madness theories are irrelevant.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:52 pm

In post 1766, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1762, Gamma Emerald wrote:You idiots really need me to do this?
I'm VT so your role madness theories are irrelevant.
Role madness always has at least one vt dumbie

Not in games I've played!

Gamma Emerald · Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:55 pm

In post 1782, pieguyn wrote:also ftr, if I was scum with drealz I probably would not have taken the "soft defend but never explicitly declare a town read" approach to his wagon - that is something I actually actively avoid doing as scum because it's something that I know a lot of people immediately look for and it isn't beneficial (see: the wagon on him coming up again now). I am sure that anyone who has seen me play scum knows that I'm more than capable of, and will not hesitate to, hard defend my partners if I feel it necessary to defend them.

Yeah, IIRC in my first ever scum game I tried this and failed. What I did was I objected to the initial logic because it was not very condemning.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:59 pm

In post 1806, pieguyn wrote:
In post 1803, beeboy wrote:If you think Drealz is scum why are you doing everything in your power to get people to compromise on Varsoon or Dwlee?
I wouldn't complain about a drealz lynch; I just want a Varsoon lynch because he is very obviously scum and I do not want to risk myself being killed N1 and then him convincing you all that he somehow isn't scum and worming his way out of it, which he *will* attempt to do (especially with people like Wisdom in the game who are pretty much playing to a scum win con). dwlee is just what my kindred spirit wants, plus I think what I said about Varsoon also applies to him.

You make Varsoon sound like Wisdom.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:44 pm

I have a suspicion we are playing medical mafia btw

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:52 am

In post 1827, Varsoon wrote: Two, you're so vain--you probably think this game is about you.

Mini 1856 -

This Mafia Game is for pieguyn

In post 1819, Gamma Emerald wrote:I have a suspicion we are playing medical mafia btw
I have no clue what medical mafia is. Elaborate? How does this being like that help us?

It's a game with a lot of protective roles.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:00 am

zzz
You know what disregarding claims drealmerz is probs the scummiest guy here

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:14 am

VOTE: drealmerz
I don't know where he's at but IDRC

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:35 am

In post 1848, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 1829, pieguyn wrote: is this what players today refer to as LAMIST?
yes, so very hard, yes

Posts like this are why I scumread dreal. He's not trying to gamesolve, he's not trying to be helpful, in fact he seems to be promoting toxicity.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:37 am

what are all these emotes you're using

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:43 am

In post 1869, drealmerz7 wrote:how does that promote toxicity? they asked a question, I gave my view - it smells of extreme LAMIST to me, how is that promoting toxicity? you want my fucking reads or not?

I've been fucking sitting back getting the same shit from the beginning, keeping my cool, annnnnd, sorry I'm not doing better solving the game for ya'll, I've given all I've got in the way of reads

geezus fucking hell

This post

In post 835, drealmerz7 wrote:my read is that beeboy is scum doing it to luna on purpose (and out I go...)

Was goading beeboy and Luna on.
That's fucking dirty.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:44 am

In post 1875, pisskop wrote:Emoticon Mafia must now become a thing.

Go read MS Pain
It's in the Newbie Archives

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:47 am

In post 1879, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 1877, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 835, drealmerz7 wrote:my read is that beeboy is scum doing it to luna on purpose (and out I go...)
Was goading beeboy and Luna on.
That's fucking dirty.

NOOO, I was giving my read on the situation. WTF.[/quote]
Yeah no.
I don't fucking believe you.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:48 am

The tone of that post doesn't read like town saying their thoughts. I'd expect "personally, I feel beeboy is scummy for pressuring Luna like this". Not that casual bullshit.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:53 am

Wait a second, who was it who bitched about 1v1ing? I have a bone to pick with them.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:57 am

Okay, dwlee is very likely scum. I made a similar comment and only drealz commented.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:37 am

Hope you got a Teflon neck too.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:12 am

@MOD: VCS PLEASE

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:31 pm

Dwlee that's not a good idea

Gamma Emerald · Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:23 am

Can we please lynch dreal I don't understand how he is still not hanging from a rope

Gamma Emerald · Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:23 am

In post 1982, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1963, beeboy wrote:Actually I still want to think this through myself.

My gut is telling me Drealz, Varsoon and Cakez are town which would mean the scum team is.

{Aero, Dwlee, Pisskop}

But I really just don't know because that is just POE :<
then VOTE: varsoon ffs

What?
He's saying Varsoon is

GUT TOWN

Gamma Emerald · Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:50 am

In post 1991, pisskop wrote:Can we not have a whole 'nother week of this?

Only way to do that is to end the Day.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:43 am

I'm pretty sure pie is town for mediating that beeboy/Luna shit

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:02 am

In post 2018, Luna Fox wrote:VOTE: beeboy

Reason?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:49 pm

In post 2051, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 2050, Wisdom wrote:goddamn people and their egos
it's not ego

man, you're one of the last that should be posting about ego...

info, eh? I don't buy it

sell it better

Yeah what is this "info" you have Wis?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:49 pm

In post 2052, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 2048, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2047, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 2044, mhsmith0 wrote: if dreal/varsoon are v/v then cakey probably a wolf
that's what I said like...a long long time ago

when this all started
then fucking vote cakez
i think dreal is a wolf. get cakey to L-1 and restate the case and maybe I'll hammer.

?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:13 pm

Why would scum not fake claim faith healer?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:14 pm

Actually I believe Wisdom now but I'm going to go rounds with the mod when this is over.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:20 pm

Nope I believe Wisdom about Varsoon all the way

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:37 pm

Also, I REALLY suspect someone in Varsoon's hood is scum. With my confidence in Wisdom, that leaves pisskop or dwlee.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:09 pm

It's based on my ideas of game balance.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:09 pm

Btw that's all I'm saying

Gamma Emerald · Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:23 am

I have formed my own conclusions. Wisdom is town and Varsoon is town.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:28 am

However, I'm not just going to folllow his reads.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:30 am

VOTE: drealz

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:47 pm

What the hell?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:48 pm

So we have a vig/SK
AND we likely have a real doc

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:49 pm

So my theory is fucking out the window with Varsoon flipping scum
The reason I believed Wisdom was because I thought him and Varsoon were masons

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:57 pm

In post 2193, SirCakez wrote:Guys
Guess who Varsoon visited last night?

Also I got a bomb last night, no idea what it does (I'm asking GiF)

OH DAMN
Anarchist?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:05 pm

In post 2201, Luna Fox wrote:VOTE: beeboy

WHY

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:06 pm

Didn't someone say Aero was scum with Varsoon

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:12 pm

Okay
Luna your dirt on beeboy?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:14 pm

Okay. Luna does your role have any usage restrictions?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:15 pm

Okay. I ask that because I feel it's best we coordinate night actions tonight.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:16 pm

In post 2230, mhsmith0 wrote:possible Aero was SK and the visit was a shot I guess? but that seems relatively unlikely IMO

Varsoon visited Aero, not the other way around

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:23 pm

Wait
Miller + Vig
You're fucking kidding me

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:24 pm

In post 2250, Aeronaut wrote:
In post 2248, Gamma Emerald wrote:Wait
Miller + Vig
You're fucking kidding me
yeah welcome to a role madness game.

You claim both miller and vig
Confirmed SK?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:54 pm

In post 2280, Aeronaut wrote:
In post 2269, pieguyn wrote:skimming Aero's ISO, I think a kill on him actually *would* make some amount of sense.
I don't see how killing me makes any sense. He protected me, supposedly.

He could have run the kill and not used his faith-heal power.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:55 pm

I need to read the entire thread before I post holy shit

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:57 pm

In post 2291, Aeronaut wrote:Yeah, Pie and Nahdia said that.

Got anything new?

I feel it's very likely Wis is scum, as he felt like he was masonsofting with Varsoon

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:28 pm

In post 2296, Aeronaut wrote:
In post 2294, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2291, Aeronaut wrote:Yeah, Pie and Nahdia said that.

Got anything new?
I feel it's very likely Wis is scum, as he felt like he was masonsofting with Varsoon
Where did you see that?

Wisdom kept saying he had extra information that verifies that Varsoon wasn't lying. Sounds like a masonry to me.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:21 pm

In post 2307, Luna Fox wrote:Also why are we assuming scum shot Aero? he claimed miller no?

Remember that Varsoon was scum: he was all up in Aero's bizznazz about the PR soft.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:41 am

VOTE: Wisdom

Gamma Emerald · Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:56 am

@MOD the OP is not updated

Gamma Emerald · Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:00 am

In post 2348, pisskop wrote:umm we assuming an skviggie?

nhs was pretty town so sk?

LOL clueless
scum died Night 1
Vig/SK confirmed present

Gamma Emerald · Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:02 am

Luna we need your guidance

Gamma Emerald · Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:07 am

Roles list
pieguyn: backup IC

Varsoon: Faith healer neighbor

Luna Fox: roleblocker
Gamma Emerald: VT
Nahdia: ??? (doesn't want to claim IIRC)

Wisdom: Faith healer neighbor

drealmerz7: nurse

SirCakez: tracker
Aeronaut: Vig/SK
beeboy: neighbor
Dwlee99: neighbor
pisskop: neighbor

mhsmith0: bomb vendor

Gamma Emerald · Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:20 am

In post 2367, Luna Fox wrote:is bee neighbor? i thought the neighborhood was dwlee, varsoon and pisskop, and varsoon also being neighbor with wisdom.

pk also claimed neighbors with beeboy and Wis I believe

Gamma Emerald · Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:20 am

In post 2371, pisskop wrote:???

if SK
then 2maf

No, 3 maf and SK is a thing

Gamma Emerald · Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:24 am

Wait
Scum obv have daytalk bcuz Wis claimed a hood with Varsoon

Gamma Emerald · Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:37 am

I was putting this off but yeah no point not to.
VOTE: beeboy

Gamma Emerald · Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:38 am

LOL
I think he just likes fakeclaiming masons in general

Gamma Emerald · Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:54 pm

That's a good point
who's the last scum then?

Gamma Emerald · Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:56 pm

pieguyn backup IC
Varsoon flipped
Luna Fox rb
Gamma Emerald VT
Nahdia ???
Wisdom flipped
drealmerz7 flipped
SirCakez tracker
Aeronaut vig
beeboy n
Dwlee99 n
pisskop n
mhsmith0 flipped
Who is lying?

Gamma Emerald · Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:58 pm

In post 2477, pisskop wrote:You could be.

I could, but WHY?
I flucking claimed VT when it wasn't necessary.

Gamma Emerald · Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:54 pm

In post 2517, beeboy wrote:Also why gambit to get town read by me when Pisskop was trying to ML me earlier this game anyway.

If scum isn't Dwlee it's Cakez or Gamma, but I am pretty sure lynching Dwlee ends the game.

Okay
Cakez could make sense, but IIRC he tracked mhsmith to himself
Maybe Cakez is a rolecop and saw mhsmith was a bomb vendor
Cakez didn't claim results until after pk noted he got the bomb

Gamma Emerald · Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:57 pm

But seriously
Why do people think I could be scum when I claimed VT for clarification of setup info? I think this happened a bit last time I claimed to clear up setup confusion too.

Gamma Emerald · Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:02 pm

Also pisskop can you take off your tinfoil hat and see that if an SK exists it HAS to be Aero?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:14 am

BTW theonly method of stopping kills seems to be the rb and the bp.
So, lynch beeboy?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:51 pm

In post 2598, SirCakez wrote:
In post 2575, beeboy wrote:Wisdom wouldnot have self hammered if the setup was 2-2 unless he valued trolling the town over winning.
This game has 3 scum on 1 team.
This is a super good point

I could see Gamma scum too. Wisdom was iirc townreading him for vague as shit reasons.

No IIRC he was TRing me for my SR on him.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:59 pm

AAAAHH
PLZ DON'T BAH POST RANDOMLY LIKE THAT

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:00 pm

Also you're a day late

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:00 pm

In post 2681, pisskop wrote:I hope youre happy, listening to Pie so we could gut the hood of all its townies.

But you're town...?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:06 pm

I was blocked IIRC.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:14 pm

In post 2693, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 2688, Gamma Emerald wrote:I was blocked IIRC.
Yes.
Tho I wonder why you would bring up being blocked after being tracked nowhere instead of just because you're VT so you would never be tracked anywhere.
Still 1 kill, and is the player people wanted Aero to kill. This is bothersome.

Because blocking means tracks register nothing.
...Or am I completely wrong about how roleblocking works?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:19 pm

In post 2701, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 2698, Gamma Emerald wrote:Because blocking means tracks register nothing.
...Or am I completely wrong about how roleblocking works?
Yes, but if you're VT, your reaction would be that your VT so you wouldnt be tracked anywhere, block or no block.

I was speaking outside of my perspective, because I wanted you guys to understand.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:21 pm

That's why I doubt 9:2:2, it's unbalanced.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:42 pm

Bombs are just flavor apparently.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:54 pm

@pisskop: how about where you are clueless to who the SK could be?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:57 pm

tbh I feel Aero is the best lynch imo so we can clear up the SK WIFOM that's stinking up the place.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:12 pm

We need some way to avoid overlapping blocks and tracks without telegraphing actions.
Each one should probably give a set of 3 targets.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:49 pm

In post 2871, pisskop wrote:Not a chance. I like how you nulltown two lurkers

I'm not a lurker you jerk.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:51 pm

In post 2874, SirCakez wrote:Gamma has nearly 200 posts and Luna has 250
Not really lurkers lol

Plus Luna has a testable claim and Gamma couldn't have done a kill last night

I was going to refute your point about the kill but I realized I was blocked and tracked. I'd need to be a Strongman-Ninja to have done the kill, and that's OP in any setup.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:57 pm

Reads:
Town
Nahdia
Pie
Luna
Cakez
pk
Aero
Scum
Nahdia's IC claim is literal suicide as scum, Pie's would be just as bad, Luna I doubt is scum because of that horrible beeboy tunnel, Cakez is not likely to be scum because he was the CW to Varsoon/drealmerz D1, and that debate was definitely a 1-2 chain. I could see pk as scum because I'm a idiot theorycrafter who thinks all scum could have been in neighborhoods. Aero is my SK read. I also believe we may have 10:2:1, as hard as it is for everyone else.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:35 am

In post 2918, pisskop wrote:
In post 2917, pieguyn wrote:OK with making you lose this game if you're town
exactly. making
me
lose the game as town.

Not
us
pie.

This is not the proper use of that tell. She's saying if you are town you deserve to lose.