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Post Post #2900 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:39 pm

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In post 2897, BlackVoid wrote:So, I think scum were working under that assumption that I was a Mason, at least on D2. So, why the IAI kill?

When I asked why I wasn't dead yet at the beginning of today, I wasn't tooting my own horn about my towniness. It felt like I was the more obvious partner to Victor. I consistently townread him and had him as my top townread through D1. I as good as told GreyICE that I was coming around to him being town but if it's between Victor and him, I had to vote him. So, why IAI when I was the obvious Mason and Sotty7 knew it?
I think the IAI kill implies that they didn't know you were a Mason during D2 as you are a much better NK target than IAI. I think scum probably have a Role Cop and found IAI N1.
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Post Post #2901 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:40 pm

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That's not as bad now as it was previously,
given my previous assumption was that people would actually just lynch you after I died given the reads.

But still people probably lynch creature instead. Everyone always ignores dead reads I know because I die n1 a ton.
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Post Post #2902 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:41 pm

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In post 2900, Hoopla wrote:I think the IAI kill implies that they didn't know you were a Mason during D2 as you are a much better NK target than IAI. I think scum probably have a Role Cop and found IAI N1.
No, Sotty7 put me and Victor as her top townreads right next to each other. I doubt it's a co-incidence. I think she figured it out. She also put IAI down in her scumlist.
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Post Post #2903 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:43 pm

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In post 2902, BlackVoid wrote:No, Sotty7 put me and Victor as her top townreads right next to each other. I doubt it's a co-incidence. I think she figured it out. She also put IAI down in her scumlist.
I think it's a coincidence. You were town based just on your play and Victor was a claimed Mason.
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Post Post #2904 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:44 pm

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The irony to see scum in front of me having a completely casual theory conversation with mason.
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Post Post #2905 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:45 pm

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Also, if Cloud's claim is true and he still has a BG shot, tonight is shaping up for a delicious game of WIFOM with regards to actions.
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Post Post #2906 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:46 pm

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In post 340, Hoopla wrote:
In post 338, TwoFace wrote: :cool: No need for what? To call you a shitty player? You said victor asking me why I wasn't voting since post 107 or whatever number was a good post. That's literally the most useless question of the game so far. So yeah that says to me that if you're town, your opinions are horrible.
phew, it's a relief you added that emoji to help soften the blow

sotty, you better go work on your game.
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Post Post #2907 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:46 pm

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In post 791, Hoopla wrote:
In post 789, TwoFace wrote:Jack? You're kidding right? He's pushing on scum and you want to lynch him? When sotty flips scum that's going to be bad for you hoops
The Sotty wagon has been on a one-way road to Nowheresville for
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15 pages now. How many more pages of nobody voting Sotty do we need to see before you compromise?
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Post Post #2908 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:47 pm

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Also note the twoface focus, along with
In post 1087, TwoFace wrote:Sotty/hoopla if ice isn't trolling
we have the night kill explained
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Post Post #2909 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:48 pm

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In post 797, Hoopla wrote:
In post 796, TwoFace wrote:Every time he gets to 4 votes, attention gets diverted elsewhere. That's a red flag if I've ever seen one so probably won't divert ever. I'm really thinking you're scum with him at this point. You're too good to not see this
There's just not that much support for a Sotty lynch any more, and that's why it has stalled where it is for so long. Towards the end of D1 you need to start lynching at the intersection of "good scum suspect" and "realistic lynch target". The longer you're stubborn, the more likely you'll be settling for just the latter. Right now, the town is deciding who to lynch while you're happy sitting on a nothing vote.
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Post Post #2910 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:48 pm

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I'll unvote to appease bv but I still want a Hoopla lynch.
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As far as IAI being a mason over you, Victor had a pretty unexplained hard townread on IAI, going as far to argue against his vigging when GI brought it up. I mean, I was assuming you (bv) were the other mason, but victor's townread on IAI was one of those things that made no sense at the time to me and then made way too much sense after IAI flipped.

That being said, you're case on GM makes some degree of sense. I think I can alter my mental narritive relating to this whole mason stuff enough to the point where GM is a viable lynch candidate to me.
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Post Post #2911 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:49 pm

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I have a question for you Rask.

Are you more confident in your townread on Creature or your scumread on me?
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Post Post #2912 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:49 pm

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This is like at the end of a tv show where the loose threads come together and everything fits.
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Post Post #2913 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:55 pm

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I don't even know the VC can I have one please ty
I bet Maria is scum this game
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Post Post #2914 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:56 pm

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Hoopla's at l-2
GM has 0 votes on her
None of the others matter.
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Post Post #2915 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:57 pm

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In post 2911, Hoopla wrote:I have a question for you Rask.

Are you more confident in your townread on Creature or your scumread on me?
answer the question raskie-pie
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Post Post #2916 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:59 pm

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VOTE: Hoopia
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Post Post #2917 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:00 pm

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We don't need to hammer just gotta wait for GM to come for any counter claim buddle talk etc
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Post Post #2918 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:04 pm

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bv, do you still want me on arona or you ?
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Post Post #2919 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:05 pm

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In post 2911, Hoopla wrote:I have a question for you Rask.

Are you more confident in your townread on Creature or your scumread on me?
Creature has been a lazy fuck but I still think he has to be town.

I have to perform mental gymnastics to see any team outside of you now but MAYBE gm works with him but that's it. Maria doesn't, cloud doesn't, you don't really.
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Post Post #2920 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:05 pm

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i expect to not be killed with 3 masons
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Post Post #2921 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:07 pm

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In post 2918, CloudKicker wrote:bv, do you still want me on arona or you ?
I don't know. Unless someone cc's you, you are conf-town. Just do what you feel is best.

How does me being mason affect your reads/vca that you did earlier? In particular your reads on Rask and Hoopla?
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Post Post #2922 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:11 pm

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In post 2919, Raskolnikov wrote:
In post 2911, Hoopla wrote:I have a question for you Rask.

Are you more confident in your townread on Creature or your scumread on me?
Creature has been a lazy fuck but I still think he has to be town.

I have to perform mental gymnastics to see any team outside of you now but MAYBE gm works with him but that's it. Maria doesn't, cloud doesn't, you don't really.
Good to know.

The fact you are so confident about me as scum (and wrong) means you can't be trusted about your equally confident read on Creature if/when I die. You're either scum or plain wrong imo.

TOWN, PLEASE IGNORE RASK'S META READ ON CREATURE WHEN I'M PUSHING UP DAISIES. I'M A SIMPLE TOWNIE AND THIS IS MY FINAL WISH!!!!
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Post Post #2923 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:12 pm

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im too busy atm to review and have new reads, will check this out tomorow
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Post Post #2924 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:13 pm

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