Mini Normal #1838 Mod/Dead Thread

Grendel · Post Post #225 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:42 am

Why is Implosion being so lazyyyyy...

I was counting on him + Shadow's slot to carry the game when I was mislynched.

I should have never assumed town knew what they were doing. I should have fought my mislynch harder. I should have pressed my Prism paranoia further.

I should've I should've I should've I should've I should've I should've I should've I should've I should've I should've

Sigh

eagerSnake · Post Post #226 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:50 am

In post 225, Grendel wrote:Why is Implosion being so lazyyyyy...

I was counting on him + Shadow's slot to carry the game when I was mislynched.

I should have never assumed town knew what they were doing. I should have fought my mislynch harder. I should have pressed my Prism paranoia further.

I should've I should've I should've I should've I should've I should've I should've I should've I should've I should've

Sigh

You should've LISTENED to the SNAKE

boring · Post Post #227 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:39 am

Don't be so hard on yourself, Grendel. I think you did just fine. Now, we just need them t lynch Dier. I think Prism has a good shot in LYLO with BV and nn.

eagerSnake · Post Post #228 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:54 am

Lol nice signature boring, "81% serious"

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #229 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:55 am

I don't see a signature

eagerSnake · Post Post #230 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:04 pm

You have to go to their profile to see it they don't have it set for their posts

boring · Post Post #231 (ISO) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:46 pm

I normally don't mind signatures, but I find them distracting in the game.

Shadow_step · Post Post #232 (ISO) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:59 pm

Let's lynch the guy who couldn't have done the kill.
Implosion is an idiot.

Dierfire · Post Post #233 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:50 am

I was the Jailkeeper target?
I'd have fought my lynch harder if I'd known that. Zoronos said to suspect me if he died.

Shadow_step · Post Post #234 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:54 am

You obviously were, wtf were you thinking. Giving no resistance to your lynch.

Shadow_step · Post Post #235 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:55 am

In post 233, Dierfire wrote:Zoronos said to suspect me if he died.

He was obviously going to die

Claimed PRs die, that's how it works.

Dierfire · Post Post #236 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:59 am

Well, if he'd prevented the kill, then he wouldn't have died!

Shadow_step · Post Post #237 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:01 am

Then we'd have won already

Shadow_step · Post Post #238 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:02 am

Really disappointed with your setup spec given you've modded a mini normal.

Shadow_step · Post Post #239 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:03 am

In post 225, Grendel wrote:Why is Implosion being so lazyyyyy...

So much this

podoboq · Post Post #240 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:05 am

From the Mafia PT:

In post 232, Prism wrote:
Kill: Implosion

I was half tempted to kill nn instead but naw

We've got another 41.5 hours of waiting, but here's the one remaining night action straight from the horse's mouth.

Dierfire · Post Post #241 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:07 am

In post 238, Shadow_step wrote:Really disappointed with your setup spec given you've modded a mini normal.

In what regard?
I don't think that the game would be unbalanced if you were VT.

Shadow_step · Post Post #242 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:24 am

You shouldn't have allowed the shade on Zoronos.

Shadow_step · Post Post #243 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:26 am

Killing nn would be shooting himself in the foot.

Shadow_step · Post Post #244 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:29 am

What BV and nn need to think tomorrow is if Prism was so spot on with his scum reads and was much more townier than Maria why was maria killed instead of Prism.

Dierfire · Post Post #245 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:38 am

Zoronos was widely believed after claiming. I don't think that he was ever in danger of being lynched.

The volume of posts in the game may make it difficult for them to accurately analyze the N1 kill.

Dierfire · Post Post #246 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:41 am

I forgot even some of the things that I wrote D1.

If I'd found my 1405 again, I'd have been less certain about BlackVoid (although I don't know that I'd have been more certain about Prism or nn30).

Grendel · Post Post #247 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:34 am

Subject: Mini Normal #1838 - Night 5

Prism wrote:Mafia doesn't have an ascetic for reasons listed by Implosion. I obviously disagree on the strongman point-scum having no counter to not just one but two cops and a jailkeeper does not seem balanced to me. X-night/oneshot strongman seems likely to me and while I hope Zoro jailed DF but the way he said "If boring flips a blocking role" does not inspire me with confidence that he didn't jail me or BV instead. People seem to be viewing ascetic as a negative utility role which is not necessarily true-any separate title for role has power in itself, but there's more. Purpose of the ascetics was to counter the scum neopolitan. While it works against town's cops too, I find it difficult to see a setup in which scum only has neo, where it has town counters via ascetics and JK (three ways to block), and scum has no counter to cops or JK except through JK jailing a cop.

Gee, I can't wait for the remaining two townies to completely miss the post where scum!Prism drives home that "Zoronos probs didn't jail Dier last night", and that "Dier is probably a strongman anyway so..."

Also notice how hard Prism pushes Night actions/kill speculation on previous days, but here he just out right dismisses it! lol.

Outside of that post, and 3126, Prism contributed nothing of substance to the game D5.

Grendel · Post Post #248 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:36 am

@Dierfire

Great job defending yourself?

I mean, I wasn't much better, but...

Grendel · Post Post #249 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:44 am

Subject: Mini Normal #1838 - Night 5

implosion wrote:He's not a full strongman. That's *WAY* too powerful. Makes the jailkeeper a negative-utility PR until he dies.
He's not a full roleblocker. Also way too powerful, and mutual roleblocks are often avoided as a design principle.
He's not an x-shot strongman because he'd likely have used his shots already and I still think it seems too much.
He's not an x-shot roleblocker for the same reason, he'd already have blocked on previous nights I think.

I've been burned way too recently by taking the paranoid approach of "well, this person would have to be a mafia strongman to be scum, but that's probably the case." Literally that exact line of thinking got me to mishammer at 3p lylo, and it got me thinking about pr pseudoresults in general. That game was somewhat different because it turned out that the jailkeeper claimant was scum but the principle is the same. I think we need to trust the jailkeep. My instinct is that {cop, deputy, jailkeeper, ascetic, ascetic} vs {neapolitan, goon, goon} is balanced enough. It's only three town power roles; that's basically the bare minimum that will be accepted in a 13p mini normal anyway.

I'm gonna need to re-evaluate everything here, I think. Which is a little awkward since I'm V/LA Sunday-Friday. But hopefully I'll be able to find time/energy during that. If not then I will afterwards.

HOW CAN IMPLOSEN MAKE A POST LIKE THIS THEN ACTIVELY WORK AGIANST IT BY VOTING THE PERSON THAT _THIS_ POST SHOULD HAVE CLEARED???

AND NOT HAVE BEEN AT ALL SUSPOUS OF HIS TERIARY SCUM READ PUSHING AN OPPOSING CASE TO GET DIER LYNCHED?

HOLY BALLS IMPLOSEN!

Like this game should have been a cakewalk for you!

You also didn't hard defend BV nearly enough because that is 100% the target mislynch tomorrow imo.