Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

[Narna]

You accused me of wasting my shot before Shiro or Ank said anything about how their roles supposedly work. If you were assuming I knew, why would you question me?

yeah the comments were a bit of a stretch. I'm trying to better illustrate this tunnel though.

[Skullduggery]

Day 4, Vote Count #7

Current Vote Count:

(0)

SirCakez

(0)

Giovanni il Pellegrino

(0)

Maxous

(0)

Creature

(0)

PeregrineV

(3)

Titus -- Creature, Not Chara, Narna

(1)

Shiro -- massive

(0)

Nahdia

(1)

Firebringer -- Nahdia

(0)

Not Chara

(0)

Ankamius

(0)

SnarkySnowman

(4)

Narna -- SirCakez, Andrius, Maxous, Titus

(1)

Almost50 -- Shiro

(0)

Andrius

(0)

massive

Not Voting:

Giovanni il Pellegrino, PeregrineV, Ankamius, SnarkySnowman, Almost50, Firebringer

With 16 votes available, it takes 9 votes to hammer.

Firebringer is V/LA until 11/26.
PeregrineV is V/LA until 11/28.

Day 4 Will End on Tuesday, November 29th, at 2 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2016-11-29 14:00:00)

[Almost50]

Titus, you're scum in this game, aren't you?

VOTE: Titus

[Creature]

lol this game

[Andrius]

Unvote

[Giovanni il Pellegrino]

Andrius, why the unvote?

Back from a 36 hour shift. Quick post, because I am really tired.

The SlySly nightkill screwed my brains even worse than this game already has. At first, I thought it was slightly random, but then it occured to me how it perplexed the game even worse. A scum team in which Narna is a member could go aggressive and lynch one of the three biggest advocates for his lynch (SirCakez, Andrius, SlySly) in order to weaken the imminent wagon against him given the Leonshade flip or a scum team in which Narna is not a member could kill SlySly so that people could think Narna is scum and lynch him. Both possible explanations have problems and I cannot think of any other serious reason for scum to nightkill SlySly.


I am not convinced on the Narna case. I want to be convinced because I feel like the slot carries way too much luggage to survive right now, but "twilight trolling" is not a valid answer against his twilight behavior and the LeonShade lynch was... logistically bad. Depending on the number of scum (4, 5, 6 (unlikely but you never know), we have 4, 3, 2 days left provided we don't find scum and a vig doesn't hit town.

If Narna is lynched and flips town, someone who was actively pushing for Leon and Narna lynch will hang.

Well, not outright hang right away, but I will/would definitely begin looking at alternative theories. This Town is divided and possibly conquered. I am beginning to think that scum don't play as monolithically as we think they do. In order to divide and conquer, one can either support one side overwhelmingly against the other, or have agents planted on both sides to stir hostility against the other. If Narna flips Town, then that will finally confirm that all Day 1/Day 2 wagons (MagnaOfIllusion, McMenno, Narna) are Town.

Comments on the rest of the day during the evening. They require reading and I have to sleep.

[Ankamius]

The SlySly nightkill screwed my brains even worse than this game already has.

Yeah, the SlySly kill bugs me a lot.

[Ankamius]

The connection doesn't seem to be reads, especially since Nosferatu was mostly suspecting the N-crew along with a lot of us (and isn't the first one who would die to protect them either).

This is really bugging me now.

[Ankamius]

Oh, I cut out the part where I said that both the zakk and Nosferatu kills bugged me too.

Well, they bug me too.

[Ankamius]

I noticed that Nosferatu also was heavily suspecting the Almost50 slot, but zakk was very adamant about that slot being 100% town, so that track is out the window along with my idea that the reason people are dying is because of their reads.

Now my working theory is that people who are proving themselves stubborn and potentially difficult to manipulate in the future are the ones dying.

That would mean that the 'town leaders' are either being manipulated or are scum themselves.

Speaking of which, the people that spearheaded the Leonshade wagon need to be flipped ASAP.

[Skullduggery]

massive has been prodded.

SnarkySnowman has required too many prods and is being replaced.

[Creature]

massive has been prodded.

SnarkySnowman has required too many prods and is being replaced.

[Creature]

Well, not outright hang right away, but I will/would definitely begin looking at alternative theories. This Town is divided and possibly conquered. I am beginning to think that scum don't play as monolithically as we think they do. In order to divide and conquer, one can either support one side overwhelmingly against the other, or have agents planted on both sides to stir hostility against the other. If Narna flips Town, then that will finally confirm that all Day 1/Day 2 wagons (MagnaOfIllusion, McMenno, Narna) are Town.

Comments on the rest of the day during the evening. They require reading and I have to sleep.

Damn, but I already had to lynch Leon (a strong townread for me) because town was pretty divided.

[SirCakez]

massive has been prodded.

SnarkySnowman has required too many prods and is being replaced.

hallelujah

[Andrius]

Snowman should have been replaced a long time ago or he should have just replaced out.
I mean, I'm no better than he is right now and I'm considering leaving because my heart isn't here and I'm really not doing anything for you guys.

I'm coming around to lynching Titus but I'll probably Maedhros this one and stand aside.

I should probably mention that she knows my role. So if she's scum the entire scumteam knows my role.

I've been calling people out for not doing things and here I am.
But for some of the others, this is part of a bigger towntell of mine.

[Giovanni il Pellegrino]

Fidel Castro had to die for SnarkySnowman to be replaced.

Snowman should have been replaced a long time ago or he should have just replaced out.
I mean, I'm no better than he is right now and I'm considering leaving because my heart isn't here and I'm really not doing anything for you guys.

I'm coming around to lynching Titus but I'll probably Maedhros this one and stand aside.

I should probably mention that she knows my role. So if she's scum the entire scumteam knows my role.

I've been calling people out for not doing things and here I am.
But for some of the others, this is part of a bigger towntell of mine.

Honestly, don't even compare the way you have played this game with the way Snarky played. At least you have a thought process that we can follow, no matter how erratic it might be sometimes. Snarky basically just came, spouted a couple of four word sentences and then vanished into the night. Even SlySly, the quintessential torch and pitchfork townie this game, didn't reach Snarky levels.

I hope his replacement brings a fresh view on things, unlike our two most recent replacements...

I noticed that Nosferatu also was heavily suspecting the Almost50 slot, but zakk was very adamant about that slot being 100% town, so that track is out the window along with my idea that the reason people are dying is because of their reads.

Now my working theory is that people who are proving themselves stubborn and potentially difficult to manipulate in the future are the ones dying.

That would mean that the 'town leaders' are either being manipulated or are scum themselves.

Speaking of which, the people that spearheaded the Leonshade wagon need to be flipped ASAP.

Yeah, you are probably right about the reads bit. zakk and Nosferatu were also weird choices. zakk would definitely be "stubborn" if he lived past Day 1. Also a question. Who would zakk focus towards to if he lived past Day 1? I would guess that it would have been the rest of the MoI wagon, but I haven't played with him before, so I am far from sure.

Since you mentioned it, who would the "Town Leaders" be? SirCakez? Titus? Who else?

Damn, but I already had to lynch Leon (a strong townread for me) because town was pretty divided.

Hmm? How is this related to what I said? And why "damn"? I don't understand neither the tone or the context of your post.

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I am ok with lynching Titus. I am ok with lynching Shiro. If Leonshade was alive I would be ok with lynching Narna because of the slot's past. I will wait a bit before I cast my vote. Unless the short daytime is extended, I don't think the snarky slot will have enough time to fully catch up, but you never know.

[Andrius]

Wait timeout.
Ank.
Are you scumreading me?

[Andrius]

Honestly, don't even compare the way you have played this game with the way Snarky played. At least you have a thought process that we can follow, no matter how erratic it might be sometimes. Snarky basically just came, spouted a couple of four word sentences and then vanished into the night. Even SlySly, the quintessential torch and pitchfork townie this game, didn't reach Snarky levels.

I know but I think what I need is to freshen up my reads but this game is so huge that rereading D1 would do me more harm than good.
So reading is out.
And I'm seriously concerned Titus is scum.
But I don't want to lynch her because she seemed more town elsewhere even though in-thread seems like she's missing her heart.

[Andrius]

Day 4, Vote Count #7

With 16 votes available, it takes 9 votes to hammer.

Day 4 Will End on Tuesday, November 29th, at 2 p.m. eastern time.
Countdown: (expired on 2016-11-29 14:00:00)

FYI
Three days.
Assuming the deadline won't be extended for the replacement, that is.

[Creature]

For some reason I feel like the mod cut short the deadline.

[Creature]

Hmm? How is this related to what I said? And why "damn"? I don't understand neither the tone or the context of your post.

aka I don't want to lynch Narna to please one town part to then get them to vote real scum.

[Andrius]

For some reason I feel like the mod cut short the deadline.

This makes me want to mod a bastard game.
And do exactly what I told Skulldugg I think he's doing to me.

[Andrius]

TOWN
Ankamius
Firebringer
Maxous
SirCakez
Giovanni
Nahdia

Town
Creature
Snowman
massive

FRISK
Andrius

???
A50

Scum
Titus

SCUM
Not Chara
Shiro
Narna

[Andrius]

I can see Snowman as scum who's just lurking.
Creature's not TOWN and just Town because of the CONFIRM ME TONIGHT FOR BULLETPROOF INNOCENT which rings a particular bell I distrust.
massive's not really done much but I think he's town enough.

A50 is a toss-up for me.

Titus gets Scum category or HEARTACHE category as well.

[Andrius]

Also does anyone know who/when/where posted that claims list?
Because I can't recall who's what right now and I can't even tell you what Shiro is supposed to be anyway.