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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:18 am

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In post 73, mhsmith0 wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
This is beeboy as scum. IIRC it's his only scum game so far on MS. it's old so not 100% but MUCH different tone and feel to his posts. Beeboy sounds here like he usually does. Therefore probably just town.
Umm try Gistou ^^;;
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:19 am

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In post 72, Gamma Emerald wrote:"Do I know these people?"
pieguyn: Seen them
Varsoon: Played with them
Luna Fox: Seen them
Gamma Emerald: Me!
Nahdia: Kinda
Wisdom: Played with them, but they don't think I know them still
drealmerz7: Kinda
SirCakez: Played with them
Aeronaut: Played with them
beeboy: Seen them
Dwlee99: Barely seen them
pisskop: Eh
mhsmith0: Kinda
But, I know you the least out of this playerlist. These peeps are all oldblood
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Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:20 am

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In post 71, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 69, pieguyn wrote:that specific post isn't town, I think, I'm town reading him for something entirely unrelated.
Oh but it is!
And i was townreading him since before, so why even bring that up?
no specific reason, I'm just getting a general feel of things.

if your reason for calling the post town is "scum don't question town reads on them", it's one of the easiest things in the world to fake.
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:21 am

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In post 77, pieguyn wrote:
In post 71, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 69, pieguyn wrote:that specific post isn't town, I think, I'm town reading him for something entirely unrelated.
Oh but it is!
And i was townreading him since before, so why even bring that up?
no specific reason, I'm just getting a general feel of things.

if your reason for calling the post town is "scum don't question town reads on them", it's one of the easiest things in the world to fake.
I am not capable of faking stuff like that tho.
Go easy on me pie senpai :<
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:21 am

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In post 73, mhsmith0 wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
This is beeboy as scum. IIRC it's his only scum game so far on MS. it's old so not 100% but MUCH different tone and feel to his posts. Beeboy sounds here like he usually does. Therefore probably just town.
why do you feel so certain making a body-of-work tone call when the game is just barely out of RVS on page 4?
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:22 am

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In post 78, beeboy wrote:I am not capable of faking stuff like that tho.
Go easy on me pie senpai :<
is this a serious assessment of your own meta?
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:24 am

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In post 79, pieguyn wrote:
In post 73, mhsmith0 wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
This is beeboy as scum. IIRC it's his only scum game so far on MS. it's old so not 100% but MUCH different tone and feel to his posts. Beeboy sounds here like he usually does. Therefore probably just town.
why do you feel so certain making a body-of-work tone call when the game is just barely out of RVS on page 4?
Therefore probably just town
How certain do you think I am at this juncture? If played w beeboy before, he sounds normal for him, and his scum game didn't. I also took a quick look at gistou but that was a hydra game for him so I'd think less relevant.
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:24 am

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In post 76, pisskop wrote:
In post 72, Gamma Emerald wrote:"Do I know these people?"
pieguyn: Seen them
Varsoon: Played with them
Luna Fox: Seen them
Gamma Emerald: Me!
Nahdia: Kinda
Wisdom: Played with them, but they don't think I know them still
drealmerz7: Kinda
SirCakez: Played with them
Aeronaut: Played with them
beeboy: Seen them
Dwlee99: Barely seen them
pisskop: Eh
mhsmith0: Kinda
But, I know you the least out of this playerlist. These peeps are all oldblood
Same here bud
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:29 am

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In post 22, beeboy wrote:Oh btw me, Nahdia, Cakez and Dwlee are an official town block
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:31 am

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In post 80, pieguyn wrote:
In post 78, beeboy wrote:I am not capable of faking stuff like that tho.
Go easy on me pie senpai :<
is this a serious assessment of your own meta?
No, I won't answer this further cause I want Luna to reply to you.
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:35 am

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In post 77, pieguyn wrote:
In post 71, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 69, pieguyn wrote:that specific post isn't town, I think, I'm town reading him for something entirely unrelated.
Oh but it is!
And i was townreading him since before, so why even bring that up?
no specific reason, I'm just getting a general feel of things.

if your reason for calling the post town is "scum don't question town reads on them", it's one of the easiest things in the world to fake.
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You seem to really like to apply your understanding of mafia globally dont you?
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:38 am

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In post 81, mhsmith0 wrote:but that was a hydra game for him
Uhh, it's not like it's hard to see the difference on his posts from everyone else's (heat didnt post, cakez was signing posts)
Regardless it's a very very very long game to read so i wouldnt blame you.
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:39 am

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In post 81, mhsmith0 wrote:How certain do you think I am at this juncture? If played w beeboy before, he sounds normal for him, and his scum game didn't. I also took a quick look at gistou but that was a hydra game for him so I'd think less relevant.
the tone and wording of the post suggest you feel pretty strongly about it, and that your stance is for the most part immutable.

I think it's very early to commit to that kind of strong, "sorted and done" stance. one would usually stop to consider that beeboy might have improved his scum game, or that he was able to temporarily break his tone enough to where he could play a genuine-sounding RVS, and probably declare an initial town read on the slot but not be as sure and continue to pay attention to see what he does/look for off notes later before strongly committing to it.

basically I don't think "tone" is a basis for which most people would feel that comfortable declaring a read on someone immediately after the game started.
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:39 am

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In post 84, beeboy wrote:
In post 80, pieguyn wrote:
In post 78, beeboy wrote:I am not capable of faking stuff like that tho.
Go easy on me pie senpai :<
is this a serious assessment of your own meta?
No, I won't answer this further cause I want Luna to reply to you.
If you really wanna wait for my reply then just do so, im not here 24/7 and if you want to read me fairly from my replies it'd be better to wait
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:41 am

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In post 85, Luna Fox wrote:Tee-Hee i know things you dont~
You seem to really like to apply your understanding of mafia globally dont you?
I won't comment any further on this, but I really do not see how this last line was necessary.
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:49 am

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Pie can you not figure out the game on D1? We all have to play :p
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:52 am

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I can already tell this is gonna be a rough game for scumhunting
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:54 am

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In post 91, SirCakez wrote:I can already tell this is gonna be a rough game for scumhunting
I guess...

There's people like you and Varsoon whom i have a rough time reading >.<
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:54 am

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Then we have the ppl doing nothing like aero and gamma...
I hope by the time i get back from work they have posted... something.
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:55 am

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And by something i mean not unnecessary stuff like #72
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:56 am

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Vote gamma with me.
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:56 am

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The hulk is dumb neway
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Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:56 am

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In post 87, pieguyn wrote:
In post 81, mhsmith0 wrote:How certain do you think I am at this juncture? If played w beeboy before, he sounds normal for him, and his scum game didn't. I also took a quick look at gistou but that was a hydra game for him so I'd think less relevant.
the tone and wording of the post suggest you feel pretty strongly about it, and that your stance is for the most part immutable.

I think it's very early to commit to that kind of strong, "sorted and done" stance. one would usually stop to consider that beeboy might have improved his scum game, or that he was able to temporarily break his tone enough to where he could play a genuine-sounding RVS, and probably declare an initial town read on the slot but not be as sure and continue to pay attention to see what he does/look for off notes later before strongly committing to it.

basically I don't think "tone" is a basis for which most people would feel that comfortable declaring a read on someone immediately after the game started.
Relevant posts:
In post 42, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 40, Luna Fox wrote:I can't tell which of bee's posts are serious and which aren't. RIP me.
Town lean on beeboy. Worry about him later.
In post 50, mhsmith0 wrote:Agree on beeboy, pie claim probably good too. Less sure on Luna/wisdom.
In post 56, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 52, beeboy wrote:Smith is town.
Shit-poster town block gogogo
In post 73, mhsmith0 wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
This is beeboy as scum. IIRC it's his only scum game so far on MS. it's old so not 100% but MUCH different tone and feel to his posts. Beeboy sounds here like he usually does. Therefore probably just town.
These are the sort of posts that suggest it'd take a fair amount to get me off my town read. Obviously you never lock it in at this stage, but it's a read I'm pretty comfortable with.

Ps hydra games are annoying to ISO because you have to actively sort posts by who signed which instead of just clicking the ISO button and they're all from the same person. Also you can presumably have more direct feedback w your buddies in a hydra compared to most other games. So I might look at it if I start getting beeboy doubts at some point but really not a priority to do.
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:57 am

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My problem right now is like almost everyone who's posted has posted something townie, but they can't all be town
And I highly doubt all of the scum are just in the people doing nothing

so
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:58 am

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Hm
Luna for blind spot scum
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