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[BlackVoid]

I'll give him a post to claim.

[BlackVoid]

You've been reading me as town since the beginning. Just trust me here. This'll work.

[Creature]

What are some advantages of making him fullclaim besides getting a read on him?

[BlackVoid]

If he's scum, I don't want him to get away by blatantly anti-town and rubbing it in our noses. If he's town, we'll still have the claim to analyze and I really don't think we should back down just because someone trolls us.

[BlackVoid]

C'mon Creature, the guy is trying to make a mockery of forum mafia. Let's not indulge him.

[Creature]

Let me see.

[BlackVoid]

He has also stated that he's going to purposefully delay his claim. I think claiming now will be to our benefit as we have time to think on it without rushing it.

[Creature]

VOTE: Cloud

[BlackVoid]

Thanks!

@Cloud, I have intent to hammer. Claim in your next post please.

[Creature]

I just hope Cloud doesn't do anything stupid.

[BlackVoid]

He knows I'll hammer if and only if he doesn't claim. I hope so too.

[CloudKicker]

Yo, congratz on outing me asshole bg 1-shot and not used, i didnt want to out because i wanted to trade myslef with a clear or investigative role. I didnt plan on outing the affix but i dont trust you to not hammer me just cause i didnt out it, heres the claim i typed earlier today. I also thought about just not posting anymore for a while just to troll you even further but i actually want to win this game and not be banned for trolling every game. To sum it up, i wanted to test sotty and to protect her/clear her etc, imo it was optimal to not lynch her straight away in any scenarios and this is also the reason why i believe she was bussed




Heres my claim without my affix,

I hardclaim bodyguard

- started typing this @ #2423

From another game and havent read titus, i believe that a protective role shouldnt crumb right ? Its not an actual crumb imo in the sens of it but i remember i tried to push the idea to actually test the tracker because Sotty couldve proved to me, i said that many times.

My whole d2 reason not to lynch sotty was because i wanted to be on her that day and maybe try to track outside, if this happened i wouldve crumbed who i was going on [sotty] to possibly clear her and wins a ml since we wouldnt have to lynch sotty anymore because she was virtually scumread by most of the town, that was essentially my plan. Also from slight setup meta on specs, i believe that town masons + track + weak-ish proctective role did made sens since theres over 1 investigative and 1 protective in most setup.

I also wanted to further get reads from a lynch outside the sotty claim because imo it was optimal in every way.

If i was on sotty and i get killed for it, sotty is clear, we win ml, her track is considered true++. I also seriously doubted that i wouldve been killed while not bodyguarding if Sotty was mafia, because i hard defended the shit out of her, not reason ti nightkill me the mason claim.

If the flip outside her was incriminating Sotty i wouldve probably no bodyguard or on the mason claim, idk i didnt actually think too much about it but that was essentially my state of mind.

The reason why i didnt want to full claim is because i expected to trade myself at somepoint in the game with another pr or a clear, claiming here just kill me pretty much and makes me completly useless. As far as meta goes and from em, protective roles should almost never claim.

When sonia said that i was hardtrying today, i even reminded her the game when i got lynched as doc because i didnt claim, that was another soft and she mightve picked it up? idk she didnt push on me.

[CloudKicker]

If you hammer me after this claim, again, should be considered a hard cc and a scumclaim for tomorow, now unvote

[BlackVoid]

Why didn't you protect Victor N1 when he claimed Mason?

[CloudKicker]

lol i fosed the guy, not wasting on non-confirmed pr or someone i think is town

[CloudKicker]

On sotty it was mostly a way to clear her + get a ml back considering she was getitng lynched, not that i tred her just that mechanically it was useful

[BlackVoid]

Okay. Protect Arona tonight. Don't try to be cute and wifom scum by waiving or protecting someone else because you think you can outmaneuver them. If Arona isn't still alive tomorrow, I'm permanently leaving my vote on you.

[CloudKicker]

Ill just die

[CloudKicker]

i mean, night killed, not by protecting

[CloudKicker]

You also know that if theres a roleblock and we ml today and ure town, we are in autoloss. So essentially you are asking mafia to put yourself in autoloss if ure town

[Raskolnikov]

I don't really see the difference between dying protecting mason or just dying as a target tbh.

[CloudKicker]

Its easy for them to hit outside and blame me with bv threatening me to autoloss if hes town + we ml

[Raskolnikov]

VOTE: goodmorning

[CloudKicker]

nvm about outside, i meant roleblock

[CloudKicker]

The scenario where BV is town + mafia roleblock = autoloss for me. So from BV, if mafia has roleblock this is a townloss