Mini Normal 1843 - Endgame

[BlackVoid]

He's scum and deliberately wasting time so that there's a last minute scramble.

[CloudKicker]

@BV im pretty sure appealing to get me hammered when ure not convinced that i am scum, by your own words, is even more anti town than to not claim a role

[CloudKicker]

lol @ BV

[BlackVoid]

No it isn't.

[BlackVoid]

You've had way too many chances. There's no way I'm ever entertaining a lynch outside of you unless you claim.

[CloudKicker]

BV you realize that i am town and just cause i dont abide by the meta doesnt make me mafia, i dont need last minute scrambles to win as scum, i wouldve claimed already and faked a check or something

[CloudKicker]

Then im glad you dont have hammer on me !!

[CloudKicker]

The way ure reacting reminds my of my lil sister and its too funny just to give you what you wants, i was typing my claim post like 5 min ago but trashed it lmao

[BlackVoid]

I don't care what you would have done as scum. Claim now and I'll consider your scumreads. Rask and Hoopla were people that I was looking into as well before you started this distraction. If you are town, either you can claim and we can focus on actual scum or you can waste a day getting lynched and then we focus on scum tomorrow. Your choice.

[Hoopla]

By the way, I think refusing to claim at L-1 with intent is anti-town. I don't think continuing to demand that claim is anti-town.

In fact, I'd argue that you showing up and suggesting that he could be town, implicitly trying to let him off is anti-town. Because by doing that, you are undermining the mechanics through which we get claims. You are essentially creating an environment where the next person we pressure can get out of a lynch by refusing to claim.

I mean, it's annoying that he hasn't fully claimed yet, and I still want him to full claim, but getting more annoyed and doing an even more antitown thing in hammering him (or requesting hammers) doesn't achieve anything.

The irony of the situation is him doing this has revealed (in my eyes) that he's actually prob-town, and thus despite the act of doing an antitown thing, he has probably provided a net positive to the town. I don't like the way it has come about, and don't want him to keep stalling, but it has happened. You're letting your ire of the situation overlook the silver lining here and seeing the town tell for what it is.

[Raskolnikov]

As much as I love my policies, he did say he'd claim when arona requests it which should be in a few hours. Can wait until then at least.

[CloudKicker]

Hey looks whos actually towntelling now, its hoopla holé holé

[BlackVoid]

That already happened. Arona specifically said that he wanted the claim.

[CloudKicker]

reinforcing my reads that hoop/bv isnt a thing

[BlackVoid]

No she isn't. Letting you off isn't towny. Telling you to claim isn't scummy. You fall into the trope of people doing dumb things hoping to catch scum and then saying that people who voted them are scum.

[BlackVoid]

By the way, I think refusing to claim at L-1 with intent is anti-town. I don't think continuing to demand that claim is anti-town.

In fact, I'd argue that you showing up and suggesting that he could be town, implicitly trying to let him off is anti-town. Because by doing that, you are undermining the mechanics through which we get claims. You are essentially creating an environment where the next person we pressure can get out of a lynch by refusing to claim.

I mean, it's annoying that he hasn't fully claimed yet, and I still want him to full claim, but getting more annoyed and doing an even more antitown thing in hammering him (or requesting hammers) doesn't achieve anything.

The irony of the situation is him doing this has revealed (in my eyes) that he's actually prob-town, and thus despite the act of doing an antitown thing, he has probably provided a net positive to the town. I don't like the way it has come about, and don't want him to keep stalling, but it has happened. You're letting your ire of the situation overlook the silver lining here and seeing the town tell for what it is.

If you want him to full-claim, not following up on that by not hammering isn't going to get you one. You should be hammering right about now.

[CloudKicker]

No she isn't. Letting you off isn't towny. Telling you to claim isn't scummy. You fall into the trope of people doing dumb things hoping to catch scum and then saying that people who voted them are scum.

And ure falling into the trope of people voting town bro, whos anti town now ? this gimmick also gaves me reads and still does

[CloudKicker]

Next person to show true intent i will claim, despite its funny to troll bv i dont really want to get lynched for it

[CloudKicker]

Just believe me its better i dont at least later into the day

[BlackVoid]

Can someone give intent again and actually follow-through with it?

[Hoopla]

Actually, now that I think about it...

I think Cloud is prob-town enough to the point where I don't care if he claims or not, since I don't want to lynch him any more. Just as long as it happens before or during massclaim -- whenever he feels it's best.

[BlackVoid]

You are being extremely anti-town.

[CloudKicker]

Its scummy that you should actually try to entertain the possibility that theres a reason why i prefer not to claim and that it is town motivated, you should try to read beyond the scope of the environnement where town gets claims

[CloudKicker]

Actually, now that I think about it...

I think Cloud is prob-town enough to the point where I don't care if he claims or not, since I don't want to lynch him any more. Just as long as it happens before or during massclaim -- whenever he feels it's best.

love you, town points for you

[Hoopla]

BlackVoid. He's pretty likely town and we're not lynching him today regardless of what he claims. So he might as well not fullclaim until massclaim or whenever he feels like it.