Mini Normal 1843 - Endgame

[Hoopla]

That's honestly not how I play as scum no need to risk hard defending a goon
VT btw

Why did you claim?

[MariaR]

That's honestly not how I play as scum no need to risk hard defending a goon
VT btw

Why did you claim?

Felt like it.
Plus if it really is a game of poe don't need to be scared of lynching me.

[MariaR]

Not like I'm ever gonna be a night kill in this game lol

[goodmorning]

creature do you think mentioning the mason in your townbloc a lot is going to make them tr you?



because that idea is actually dumb enough that it just might work

How can there be a true townblock without conftown on it?

why are you continually mentioning a townbloc at all?

Someone who's played with GM before - can you comment on the general accuracy of her reads? If she's normally accurate as town and doesn't bus as scum, having bad reads counts against her. If she's normally inaccurate as town, it isn't as telling. Accuracy is subjective but I'm just looking for opinions.

My efficacy varies wildly.

Calling the council of not dumb players to analyse 2236.

if you don't think that post is a pretty good point then you probably don't belong on that council yourself

but maybe that's none of my business.

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definitely dumb enough to work jesus christ

never thought i'd want victor back but i really really do

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Would also like to comment that BV was a major townread for me during my read and I'm confused as to why we're starting to entertain the theory that he was bussing sotty?

See also: my most recent posts on BV. Read them please.

And stop taking the consensus view of the game. You're confTown at this point, you should be a leader and not a follower.

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Stop trying to lynch Maria.

This is a fucking hill I will probably die on but I don't care.

[goodmorning]

Would also like to comment that BV was a major townread for me during my read and I'm confused as to why we're starting to entertain the theory that he was bussing sotty?

See also: my most recent posts on BV. Read them please.

And stop taking the consensus view of the game. You're confTown at this point, you should be a leader and not a follower.

quoting this again because it's important and i suspect arona might not read my full posts because they're long

[BlackVoid]

if you don't think that post is a pretty good point then you probably don't belong on that council yourself

No it isn't. The fact that I explained why and MariaR just ignored that and continued harping on it like it was a silver bullet showed me she just wanted something she could sell, and wasn't interested in trying to read me.

[Raskolnikov]

Bringing creature into the lynchpool is extremely necessary if scum don't wish to get PoE'd scorched-earth style.

[goodmorning]

if you don't think that post is a pretty good point then you probably don't belong on that council yourself

No it isn't. The fact that I explained why and MariaR just ignored that and continued harping on it like it was a silver bullet showed me she just wanted something she could sell, and wasn't interested in trying to read me.

I didn't find your explanation at all convincing and I certainly don't get how you thought it was going to change Maria's mind.

[goodmorning]

@Rask: a song that accurately depicts my feelings towards your ridiculous confbias

@BV: a song that accurately depicts my interpretation of the general feeling behind your rebuttal of maria's post

[BlackVoid]

I didn't find your explanation at all convincing and I certainly don't get how you thought it was going to change Maria's mind.

What is there to not find convincing?

MariaR claimed that I was treating Cloud and Sotty7 differently. I pointed out that I wasn't. I did look at other options besides Sotty7 D2 and finally came back to her as the best lynch. I unvoted Cloud to look at other options today and kept him on the backburner to weigh alongside everything else.

If MariaR was town, I expected her to realize that she was comparing what I did at the end of one day to the beginning of another.

What I think actually happened is that a couple of people were receptive to that argument so she is hammering it home because she thinks it resonates.

[goodmorning]

Analysis of Gamestate:
So basically we're in 2 camps atm, which I'll refer to as apples and oranges because why not.

Apples: GM, Maria, Cloud, Hoopla
Oranges: Rask, Creature, BV, arona, Jaack?

Which means we all know who's getting lynched today.

I don't know where I was going with this. I volunteer as tribute?

[goodmorning]

I pointed out that I wasn't.

How could I forget that I had given her an extra key?

[BlackVoid]

@GM, how did you forget about your Rask scumread from yesterday? The one you suddenly voted for when it looked like he could be lynched and now you are back to "Rask is conf-biasing."

You voted a lot of people that are flipped town or that I think are town or that I know to be town (Victor, IAI, Hoopla, Creature, me), but despite having Sotty7 as a supposed scumread, your vote was never seen there. Why? D1, you said you'd join the Sotty7 wagon. Why didn't that ever happen?

[Raskolnikov]

Is the hopelessness of the situation making you turn to wifom?

[Raskolnikov]

@GM, how did you forget about your Rask scumread from yesterday? The one you suddenly voted for when it looked like he could be lynched and now you are back to "Rask is conf-biasing."

She answered this, apparently it wasn't a scumread she just didn't like that I brought up the possibility of a maria lynch.

[BlackVoid]

Is the hopelessness of the situation making you turn to wifom?

No, I'm starting to wonder if you and Victor were right and GM's been screwing with me for a very long time.

[Raskolnikov]

That was directed at GM as she started offering herself as tribute. Though maria did it too to be fair.

[CloudKicker]

I am not claiming ever even with intent until its 2 days before the deadline. Hammering me here should be considered a full scumclaim and this wont change, i wont claim because theres a very fine reason that i dont want to, its better for town if i dont

[goodmorning]

@GM, how did you forget about your Rask scumread from yesterday? The one you suddenly voted for when it looked like he could be lynched and now you are back to "Rask is conf-biasing."

Because Rask obvTowned, as I pointed out here:

Rask you're acting just like 1820 can you just take a step back ffs -_-

Can't be bothered. I could have lurked this day or just stuck on GM vanity style like a stubborn mule, but I go out of my way to reach out and try to get agreement and compromise and people just hate me for it.

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Vote: IAI

BETTER QUICKLYNCH 10/10

You voted a lot of people that are flipped town or that I think are town or that I know to be town (Victor, IAI, Hoopla, Creature, me), but despite having Sotty7 as a supposed scumread, your vote was never seen there. Why? D1, you said you'd join the Sotty7 wagon. Why didn't that ever happen?

This was asked and answered about 300 posts ago:

well no, i don't

because i scumread sotty but the wagon on her is literally the worst


so i don't really know




but we shouldn't lynch a fucking pr claim day of

[BlackVoid]

I am not claiming ever even with intent until its 2 days before the deadline. Hammering me here should be considered a full scumclaim and this wont change, i wont claim because theres a very fine reason that i dont want to, its better for town if i dont

You won't last until two days before the deadline if I can help it. And no, hammering you will not be considered a scumclaim. Claim in your next post please.

[goodmorning]

I am not claiming ever even with intent until its 2 days before the deadline. Hammering me here should be considered a full scumclaim and this wont change, i wont claim because theres a very fine reason that i dont want to, its better for town if i dont

Cloud. Everyone has reacted to your refusal to claim by now. You are impeding our ability to reach a lynch. Claim.

[BlackVoid]

Because Rask obvTowned, as I pointed out here:

How did Rask obvtown? You said nothing about it in the post you quoted.

Not liking a wagon just seems like an excuse to not vote Sotty7. You haven't liked any wagon that had cropped up.

[MariaR]

joey ffs just claim even I'm getting slightly annoyed with you x)

[goodmorning]

The bit that I quoted from Rask, that's the bit they obvtowned in.


It was an extremely honest piece of self-assessment and rang true with the kind of exhaustion you feel when it seems like nobody is listening to you. Probably the most genuine thing that anyone in the entire game has posted.

[MariaR]

BV you're scumreading me for not remembering something pls my brain doesn't care to think about every fact that goes into this game I just think of something and post and if someone requests something of me I'll do it.