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[ArcAngel9]

I did read that Chaos said he had a guilty on Toto, I didn't know JK blocked investigative roles.

Base Role

A Jailkeeper (or Jailer)'s Night Action is one that protects its target from kills, but also Roleblocks its target. Unlike Doctor, Jailkeeper's protection extends to stopping every kill that would resolve on the target by default.
Because it is a combination Doctor and Roleblocker, Jailkeeper has a myriad of uses while not allowing broken combinations or exactly confirming anyone as Town or scum. Thus, it has risen to prominence as a very popular power role.
Because it is a Roleblocker, Jailkeeper is never allowed to self-target.
This role is a non-bastard version of Paranoid Doctor.

Read from here

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jailkeeper

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Toto

That says it roleblocks the target and saves them from being killed. which means the cop positive would still happened as its not roleblocking people who targeted them. We just have a double positive on toto.

Hold. What are you saying ?

[TwoFace]

Yeah, JK'ing Toto doesn't roleblock me from targeting them, what the fuck.

pretty sure it does

[Lil Uzi Vert]

HS kill makes sense if Chaos is scum.

Why is Chaos faking a guilty on Toto, one scum down, he will only get one extra day.

I am bit surprised. It's a mad move. But there is way Chaos would get result on Toto unless I was role-blocked. A jail-keeper, Role block, Vig & cop. It's an impossible setup.

RB + JK is possible, but strongman + RB as scum roles sounds OP.

And can you all agree that I was right yesterday. All thought drama i had to go through to convince all of you. what a pain.

You were right but I was also right about Drone.

Arc for MVP!

[ChaosOmega]

No it fucking doesn't. A rolestopper is what you are thinking of.

[Naomi-Tan]

How did that cop claim go un fucking CCed then?

cause we don't have a cop in town setup to CC a red claim. duh... there is only 1 cop in the game. town or not. most likely town though given this double confirmation and given that its kinda madness to cop claim D1

[Shadow_step]

FFS. some bold and ask the mod.

[Shadow_step]

Unvote Chaos now

[TwoFace]

Yeah, JK'ing Toto doesn't roleblock me from targeting them, what the fuck.

pretty sure it does

actually I stand corrected

[TwoFace]

vote: toto

[ChaosOmega]

Jailkeeper protects and roleblocks the target, it doesn't roleblock people targeting their target.

Just look on the MafiaWiki for Jailkeeper.

[ArcAngel9]

No it fucking doesn't. A rolestopper is what you are thinking of.

Stop trying to manipulate.

Guys - Read this. Its explained here

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 58#p945058

[TwoFace]

looking at the wiki, the role that stops a jk'd target from being investigated is a variant known as alien which is not normal.

toto is who we lynch today

[Shadow_step]

@MOD, will an INVESTIGATIVE attempt on a JK target fail, or not.

[Naomi-Tan]

I did read that Chaos said he had a guilty on Toto, I didn't know JK blocked investigative roles.

Base Role

A Jailkeeper (or Jailer)'s Night Action is one that protects its target from kills, but also Roleblocks its target. Unlike Doctor, Jailkeeper's protection extends to stopping every kill that would resolve on the target by default.
Because it is a combination Doctor and Roleblocker, Jailkeeper has a myriad of uses while not allowing broken combinations or exactly confirming anyone as Town or scum. Thus, it has risen to prominence as a very popular power role.
Because it is a Roleblocker, Jailkeeper is never allowed to self-target.
This role is a non-bastard version of Paranoid Doctor.

Read from here

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jailkeeper

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Toto

That says it roleblocks the target and saves them from being killed. which means the cop positive would still happened as its not roleblocking people who targeted them. We just have a double positive on toto.

Hold. What are you saying ?

looking at your quote from the wiki you have 2 fuctions;
• you protects its target from kill actions
• And Roleblock them

This means that Toto was roleblocked and prevented from dying but investigations not being kill action would of worked as normal. you just confirmed chaos as Green. yourself as Green and double toto Red

[ChaosOmega]

Arc, how about you read your fucking role PM if you're a jailkeeper and see what it says?

[ArcAngel9]

Jailkeeper protects and roleblocks the target, it doesn't roleblock people targeting their target.

Just look on the MafiaWiki for Jailkeeper.

Show where in wiki it says that. WIKI clearly says that "Jailkeepers not only protect their target from all kills, but also render its target untargetable by all other actions during that Night."

[TwoFace]

Guys - Read this. Its explained here

try reading the wiki which is more updated. chaos can still be legit.

lynch toto today

[TwoFace]

Show where in wiki it says that. WIKI clearly says that "Jailkeepers not only protect their target from all kills, but also render its target untargetable by all other actions during that Night."

learn to read

Variations

Some Jailkeepers not only protect their target from all kills, but also render its target untargetable by all other actions during that Night.

This variant is also known as Alien.

[Naomi-Tan]

Jailkeeper protects and roleblocks the target, it doesn't roleblock people targeting their target.

Just look on the MafiaWiki for Jailkeeper.

Show where in wiki it says that. WIKI clearly says that "Jailkeepers not only protect their target from all kills, but also render its target untargetable by all other actions during that Night."

I was going explicitly off your quote.

[TwoFace]

also

Normal Guidelines

A Jailkeeper that simultaneously blocks and protects their target is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, provided that any mutual blocking scenarios are planned for during review. Any role that receives results (such as Tracker or Watcher) but is blocked should receive a "no result" message, rather than told their target didn't go anywhere or nobody visited their target. A Jailkeeper cannot stop a Strongman from committing a kill.

[ChaosOmega]

Jailkeeper protects and roleblocks the target, it doesn't roleblock people targeting their target.

Just look on the MafiaWiki for Jailkeeper.

Show where in wiki it says that. WIKI clearly says that "Jailkeepers not only protect their target from all kills, but also render its target untargetable by all other actions during that Night."

Jailkeeper Wiki Entry

Read the whole thing that isn't a not-normal variation.

[ArcAngel9]

GUYS STOP TALKING

THIS IS THE SNAPSHOT FROM WIKI


Normal Guidelines

A Jailkeeper that simultaneously blocks and protects their target is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, provided that any mutual blocking scenarios are planned for during review. Any role that receives results (such as Tracker or Watcher) but is blocked should receive a "no result" message, rather than told their target didn't go anywhere or nobody visited their target. A Jailkeeper cannot stop a Strongman from committing a kill.


IT IS NORMAL FOR JAILKEEPER TO BLOCK ALL THE TARGETS. SEE THE ABOVE. IF A WATER TRACKS SOMEONE THAT WERE JAILED WILL RECEIVE NO RESULT. SO CHAOS IS ABSOLUTELY LYING OR OUR MOD SCREWED THE RESULT FOR HIM. I BELIEVE THAT CHOAS IS LYING.

[ArcAngel9]

Show where in wiki it says that. WIKI clearly says that "Jailkeepers not only protect their target from all kills, but also render its target untargetable by all other actions during that Night."

learn to read

Variations

Some Jailkeepers not only protect their target from all kills, but also render its target untargetable by all other actions during that Night.

This variant is also known as Alien.

LEARN TO READ FULL PAGE...

Normal Guidelines

A Jailkeeper that simultaneously blocks and protects their target is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, provided that any mutual blocking scenarios are planned for during review. Any role that receives results (such as Tracker or Watcher) but is blocked should receive a "no result" message, rather than told their target didn't go anywhere or nobody visited their target. A Jailkeeper cannot stop a Strongman from committing a kill.

[TwoFace]

GUYS STOP TALKING

YOU NEED TO STOP TALKING. YOU ARE WRONG, WRONG, WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG

[MortFeld]

Jesus christ it's like preschool again

I'm going to wait for mod confirmation.