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[Foxbird]

Votecount 4.13

karnos

(2) - Nero Cain, PenguinPower

PenguinPower

(2) - Saru, Lowell

Nero Cain

(3) - ironstove, karnos, bji

(L-2!)

Not Voting

(1) - MathBlade

With

8

players eligible to vote, it’s

5

to lynch!

Day 4 will end in

(expired on 2016-11-30 07:11:29).

Mod Notes:

None!

[PenguinPower]

How on earth would I be setting up 2 miss-lynches? If we lynch you and you come back town, do you think anyone is going to be listening to me tomorrow?

Maybe not you, but there are two of you left.

[PenguinPower]

Town

MathBlade

ironstove
bji

Saru
Lowell

Nero Cain

PenguinPower

Scum

GAH! I'm the scummiest and you took your vote off me! I don't get you.

[PenguinPower]

Town

MathBlade

ironstove
Nero Cain

bji
Saru

Lowell

karnos

Scum

[bji]

@MOD:

For clarity, can we please make PenguinPower's list NOT look like a quote of Karnos?

Fixed!

[PenguinPower]

Oops...sorry about that.

[PenguinPower]

Oh, and just want to recall this from karnos:

Sharing town reads gives scum a road map to victory.

That is dead wrong. I shared full reads lists, had multiple "scum" reads, confirmed town as confirmed town etc. And I was scum, that is the one thing you do remember correctly.

And as scum, I won because town sharing full reads gave us an easy path to victory, we just killed the people who scum read us the most and kept town alive who had poor reads.

Now, he did say he looked forward to providing his full read list eventually, but he was going to wait to do that to find the last scum by POE. We still have two scum...so, yeah.

[bji]

@Penguin: Are you town reading Nero for any reason

other

than just to disagree with those who are scum reading you?

[karnos]

Town

MathBlade

ironstove
bji

Saru
Lowell

Nero Cain

PenguinPower

Scum

GAH! I'm the scummiest and you took your vote off me! I don't get you.

You are the scummiest from my PoV because your attacks on me could only be scum motivated (I KNOW I am town, others can only speculate). However, I am also pretty sure Nero is scum. If the towny players would rather lynch Nero first, I'm fine with that.

If it makes you happy, I'll do this:

Intent to hammer Nero Cain

VOTE: PenguinPower

Now my vote is on the scummiest, but it's clear that I also wouldn't mind a Nero lynch.

[karnos]

@Penguin: Are you town reading Nero for any reason

other

than just to disagree with those who are scum reading you?

Tinfoily speculation: maybe Nero isn't actually scum, while Penguin is. Penguin thinks that by defending Nero hard, we will lynch Nero tomorrow after Penguin flips red today, and give Penguin's actual partner an extra chance to win.

[MathBlade]

Don't you dare hammer without my last will. Still at work.

[ironstove]

UNVOTE:

[PenguinPower]

@Penguin: Are you town reading Nero for any reason other than just to disagree with those who are scum reading you?

Yes. I don't think Nero would have tried to start a counterwagon as scum unless Saru was also scum (meaning I'm wrong about karnos, which I doubt). I don't think that all three scum would be on mal's mislynch D1, and Thor and karnos were on it, with karnos being the last to join. I don't think that two scum would be pushing for bji on D2. I think scum!Nero would have wanted to hop on Thor's obvious lynch D3 for towncred.

Sure, I could be completely wrong, but I don't think so.

[PenguinPower]

Tinfoily speculation: maybe Nero isn't actually scum, while Penguin is. Penguin thinks that by defending Nero hard, we will lynch Nero tomorrow after Penguin flips red today, and give Penguin's actual partner an extra chance to win.

I'm not defending Nero hard. He just doesn't work as scum with how I'm reading the game right now.

[ironstove]

Penguin if karnos is town who do you think is the remaining scum and why?

[ironstove]

Funny that you town read players for the same reasons I scum read them

[PenguinPower]

Penguin if karnos is town who do you think is the remaining scum and why?

Nero and Saru. It would explain what Nero pushed the counter wagon D1, and why Saru wasn't on it. It would help explain the no lynch D2. They have rarely been voting the same person outside of D1 start.

[PenguinPower]

Ugh...my brain hurts now.

[ironstove]

I agree. Now would you please be willing to vote Nero so we can progress the game?

[MathBlade]

Let me get my last will in. Will be done with work in approximately 5-6 hours. There is no reason to rush.

[MathBlade]

Ironstove you didn't answer my question.

[PenguinPower]

I agree. Now would you please be willing to vote Nero so we can progress the game?

That would involve me believing that karnos is town. That's hard for me to do right now.

[ironstove]

I already said I'm not claiming unless I see a reason I agree with

[karnos]

I agree. Now would you please be willing to vote Nero so we can progress the game?

That would involve me believing that karnos is town. That's hard for me to do right now.

And this is all because I voted an IC, before the IC was mod confirmed?

[PenguinPower]

And this is all because I voted an IC, before the IC was mod confirmed?

No, but it does rely solely on tone and previous experience; and, requires much more complexity of action than in the case of Nero/Saru.

Fuck it. If you're scum, I'll let you have this one.

UNVOTE: