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[boring]

I meant lynched me D3 and him D4.

[eagerSnake]

Was a fun game. I was in an unfortunate slot but it was still fun sorting everyone among it.

Pretty nice knowing I was right about all my town reads and scum reads but I don't think I cared enough since I knew I was going to be lynched.

[Grendel]

Yes, podoboq, if I had my druthers, I would have killed Shadow N1 because he was going to be seen as conf. town, and I don't like to kill people openly scum reading me. I prefer to discredit them.

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Also, Dierfire and Black Void are beautiful. I'm really impressed by both of them and their thought processes.

Ah, see I was thinking that going directly after your biggest critic wouldn't be your style. But, I didn't take into account what your buddies would have wanted to do N1.

Dierfire is a really intelligent guy, but he doesn't have much pull/presence compared to other players. So he seems to get over looked more then he should be imo.

Thank you for playing with me Grendel! I'm sorry we had to be on different teams!

I really wanted us to be town together.

It was still fun though. Doesn't this make... four games in a row you rolled scum?

[Grendel]

Was a fun game. I was in an unfortunate slot but it was still fun sorting everyone among it.

Pretty nice knowing I was right about all my town reads and scum reads but I don't think I cared enough since I knew I was going to be lynched.

You can be proud in knowing that it took the whole scum team on your wagon to get you lynched after getting cc'd!

Usually no more then two put themselves on the EoD lynch. But you got the whole team!

[Grendel]

I thought you were talking about rb the player for a second

Well, I can't help rb having a common abbreviation for a username. Also can't say I know the guy beyond a couple games I followed that he was in. People talk him up enough that I'd be worried about playing against him if I rolled scum though.

I played with him as scum once and flew under his radar (though we n1ed him so it wasn't hard)

Yeah, I read desperation day.

[boring]

Yeah, with the exception of that very brief hydra I mentioned, I'm 100% scum on this site. Like, I'm too busy to play properly, but I feel compelled to play at least one goshdarned town game before I disappear for a while. Also, playing town is easier, time-wise.

[MariaR]

The thing that upset me this game was I couldn't get 2 obv towns to stop going at each other

[boring]

Don't feel bad, words can't stop a dog fight. Like Grendel said, the whole scum team helped fan the flames and pull off the lynch. And honestly, not every town would have accepted the idea of two ascetics so readily. You and implosion saw through it right away.

[Grendel]

So zoronos' play this game has been shutting down the LUV wagon day 1. Ccing Luv.
Having Boring and Prism as town. Hmm

I was going to share what I disliked about Zoronos play in the post game, but since he is likely to join us here soon I might as well voice my discontentment:

1) I didn't appreciate the tangents about how "x" play style is

undeniably bad

, when such things are largely subjective. If everybody played mafia one way, then half of what makes mafia interesting for me would be gone.

2) When LUV was at L-1, Zoro choosing to counter claim instead of hammer was really awful.

3) Zoro declaring that I'm not less likely to be scum despite getting a negative on me was bad. I have been lynched off of the premise of "If Grendel got a negative result last night why did he go into today scum reading x slot?" Like the example of a tracker I used in post 2263 was me. I fake claimed tracker in a lylo and one of the reasons it didn't hold up was because I voted to same person that I claimed to have gotten a negative result from the night prior. The player, Infinity, reasoned that if the player I thought was most likely to preform the kill didn't then it should have made me less inclined to scum read him the next day.

4) I have seen no evidence of the scum tells he used in post 2264 being things only scum do. Most of them just seem indicative of somebody who is frustrated. Last time I checked scum aren't exclusively inclined to frustration under pressure.

5) Him agreeing on several of the points I brought to the table while continuing to scum read me was what made me stop taking him seriously altogether. What more is that I'm suspicious that he simply wasn't listening to me anymore since he was agreeing with the points I made through _other_ people. Namely Implosion.

6) I will admit that the LUV assossiatites were pretty condemning. Outside of that though, him pushing my lynch with, "Grendel is using what I consider to be bad play therefore Grendel must be scum". Looked a whole lot like, "If Grendel isn't scum then he is bad town", from my perspective. It does not incriminate me at all, and just makes voting me easy even if he started getting paranoid that I might actually be town. He could ride it off as, "at least he wasn't a decent town player".

Points 4, 5, and 6 also fuel the my feelings that Zoronos want for my blood

was

personally charged. Scum reading me for Night analysis when Prism not only did the same, but was much more adamant about it. Saying that outside of me Dierfire was most likely scum when

I was the one who brought Dierfire onto every bodies radar

. Tacking largely Non-ai tells onto a response just because I was frustrated. Ignoring many points I made over the course of the game. I'm pretty convinced that Zoro forced himself to believe that I was scum out of sheer want, and not based in actual evidence.

In the end though I'm not too angry. I do hope that if Zoro bothers to acknowledge this post he'll explain his thought processes behind his plays this game. Also, hope he is not so quick to scum read somebody just because he doesn't like how they approach the game in future.

[Grendel]

Yeah, with the exception of that very brief hydra I mentioned, I'm 100% scum on this site. Like, I'm too busy to play properly, but I feel compelled to play at least one goshdarned town game before I disappear for a while. Also, playing town is easier, time-wise.

Idk, I think I get lazier as scum then town.

[Shadow_step]

If I was zoronos, I'd probably CC LUV doc claim with a doc claim inspite of being a JK so that scum have to come after me first and Gamma could have got another clear or a guilty.

[Shadow_step]

Cop in a mini normal is the most powerful role in the game followed by watcher. I'd do anything in my power to save that role.

[Shadow_step]

Like Grendel said, acceptable play also would have been to simply say "I don't believe you" and hammer LUV

[boring]

If you'll recall, he almost instantly regretted outing himself. I think he realized that he played into our hands.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

boring you played great. It was me who was quite awful honestly and let you guys down.

[eagerSnake]

Was a fun game. I was in an unfortunate slot but it was still fun sorting everyone among it.

Pretty nice knowing I was right about all my town reads and scum reads but I don't think I cared enough since I knew I was going to be lynched.

You can be proud in knowing that it took the whole scum team on your wagon to get you lynched after getting cc'd!

Usually no more then two put themselves on the EoD lynch. But you got the whole team!

True... even after being CC'd I was able to form a viable low-effort counter-wagon on the only scum PR and force the entire scum team to vote me

[Shadow_step]

Nothing to be proud of, nothing you did caused that. It was only because most people thought that you'd be crazy as scum to gambit like that.

[eagerSnake]

Nothing to be proud of, nothing you did caused that. It was only because most people thought that you'd be crazy as scum to gambit like that.

Lol.

[podoboq]

Nothing to be proud of, nothing you did caused that. It was only because most people thought that you'd be crazy as scum to gambit like that.

Most people, but not you, who was too stubborn to accept that two players could have the same role and both be town.

[Grendel]

If I was zoronos, I'd probably CC LUV doc claim with a doc claim inspite of being a JK so that scum have to come after me first and Gamma could have got another clear or a guilty.

hmmm, that sounds like an interesting play.

Have you been in any games where the jk fake claimed doc before?

It makes sense, but I don't think I've ever seen anybody try it.

I think that the only negative coqusquence would be the scum team seeing through the claim, and killing the cop anyway. (b/c cop +doc would be an unlikely combo)

[Grendel]

If you'll recall, he almost instantly regretted outing himself. I think he realized that he played into our hands.

True, but he also said that he was willing to talk about it once the game was over.

[Gamma Emerald]

missed 158
point 3 was a game I played

[boring]

boring you played great. It was me who was quite awful honestly and let you guys down.

Nah, I made some dumb plays day 1, from which I could never fully recover. You outted Zoronos, and basically the only argument against Grendel Day 3 was that he looked like your buddy. Your Day 2 performance was great.

[Grendel]

missed 158 point 3 was a game I played

Giving credit where credit is due; Gamma played the biggest part in getting me lynched in that game. He was the cop.

Its just that Infinity was the lylo kingmaker, and his first reason of believing Gamma's claim over mine was that I voted a negative result at day start.

[Gamma Emerald]

missed 158 point 3 was a game I played

Giving credit where credit is due; Gamma played the biggest part in getting me lynched in that game. He was the cop.

Its just that Infinity was the lylo kingmaker, and his first reason of believing Gamma's claim over mine was that I voted a negative result at day start.

This guy deserves credit for nearly having me fooled.
I was going to argue that your reads had too few scum because you knew you were before I realized massclaim was happening.
Me and the scum team also nearly chose the same target twice (they switched n1, I switched n2)