I emotion tested ironstove and I am fairly satisfied with the results. Still town reading him.
In post 1608, karnos wrote:22: this is where penguin says if thor flips scum, add karnos penguin also says he thinks scum resides between saru/lowell
You know what would be delicious? If the remaining scum team is karnos-Penguin, who, once Thor was lynched, decided to off the neighborizer leaving only themselves in the neighborhood so that they could coordinate by day in the neighborhood thread instead of the mafia thread. And now we're witnessing their carefully calculated plans come to fruition, complete with misreps of everything that was said in the neighborizer thread to match their agenda.
I think it's a long shot that a scum team would actually do this, but it would be just so AWESOME, I almost wouldn't mind losing to that.
If you are town you are wrong far more often than anyone has the right to be. Example:
In post 1461, Nero Cain wrote: In post 1383, Foxbird wrote:Thor665 (6) - MathBlade, aronagrundy, PenguinPower, Saru, bji, karnos (LYNCH!)
like do you really think scum would pass up the opportunity to hard bus and get town cred here?
I cannot believe you'd actually suggest that a lynch of Thor could be construed as an attemp to get "town cred", ESPECIALLY when it contradicts your assertion that hammering as fast as karnos did is scummy, and ESPECIALLY when since Thor was 1000% likely to be lynched yesterday, there is zero town cred to be gained from getting on his obvwagon.
Are we really going to let Nero slide with this half assed play? If he's scum it's like he doesn't really even have to work hard at it because no one is calling him out on his crap and forcing him make sense. If he's town he shouldn't need any motivation to work harder.
By the way, this goes for Saru and Lowell too who really need to contribute more. Lurking is not particularly alignment indicative in my experience but it is really just totally lame.
In post 1465, MathBlade wrote:
Karnos is likely scum for that horrible day end hammer that didn't let us partner hunt.
This is dumb. We can partner hunt today just as effectively as yesterday, and we didn't have to give scum any more info to assist in their NK.
What the ??? Where did THIS come from? Why the sudden 180 degree reversal on Saru after self-admitted "been after saru for days" despite Saru not even posting here today?
In post 1482, MathBlade wrote:Yes he cut the day short and didn't let us partner hunt.
For a person making an argument about days you sure are hypocritical and wrong about when you apply it.
This is still dumb.
In post 1495, PenguinPower wrote:
Except he was on Saru most of D1. And he parked on D2, which wasn't too much of a risk. And the quickhammer was just all sorts of bad after looking at D1 and D2!karnos Then there's the stuff in our Neighborhood (yes, arona neighborized me N2. Neighborized FA on N1. I asked to neighborize karnos which was dumb) that just comes across as scum!karnos to me based on meta (trying to hard to appear town).
(pp is referring to karnos)
This is such a blatant misrep I don't even know how to address it. Read Karnos' ISO. He was equally against Thor and Saru from way, way back on Day 1, and if you look at the number of times he addressed points directly to or from Thor, it's quite clear that he's intensely interested in Thor as well as Saru. So how is it inconsistent for him to have hammered one of the two players he consistently scum read?
Also I'm not going to quote them but posts
1496,
1506, and
1510 are just screaming Penguin trying to misrep and doubtcast karnos.
In post 1621, karnos wrote:Okay, re-read nero's iso. Feeling real good about the penguin:nero scumteam.
Those are my top two scum reads at this point also. Penguin looks bad to me today with the misrepping, bad logic, deflections, defensiveness, etc. And Nero has done nothing to assuage my suspicions of him based on the Day 1 wagon, not to mention the fact that he didn't vote for Thor which puts him on the wrong side of two wagons, not to mention this:
and then this:
with ZERO in between to change his mind about me, also his use of the phrase "Bj can be town I guess" almost feels like some kind of weird taunt given how much disagreement there was about what Grey meant when he used a similar phrase and how that disagreement put me at odds with many other players.
The only players who consistently make sense to me this game are ironstove and Karnos. MathBlade, while confirmed town, doesn't make much sense most of the time.
Saru and Lowell are basically lurking half or more of the time, and almost not even in the game at this point, and we need to start demanding more from them.
