Mini Normal 1843 - Endgame

[Creature]

Hey creature why do you clear gm again?

Because I think GM is way different to Newbie 1683.

[Raskolnikov]

Different in a very significant way moreso than how people are just different in game to game?

[Creature]

Not sure.

[Raskolnikov]

Thing is absence of previous scumtells isn't nearly as reliable as strong towntells or town-similarities. "Different" is just meh, don't know how it translates to a clear.

[Raskolnikov]

Right now the realistic lynches are probably
Sotty, hoopla, gm, and it looks like me and maybe you.

I think I'd need your support to lynch gm though. If not then it's sotty or hoop.

[MariaR]

I'd lynch gm but only to protect my other tr's when I think gm is flipping town lol

[Hoopla]

Right now the realistic lynches are probably
Sotty, hoopla, gm, and it looks like me and maybe you.

I think I'd need your support to lynch gm though. If not then it's sotty or hoop.

I don't think you're a realistic lynch today?

Anyway...

do de do doo

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Sotty

Will switch back to Jack, or to goodmorning/IAI if need be.

[Creature]

MariaR, your scumteam is Jaack, me and who else?

[MariaR]

SCOTTY IS TOWN AND WHEN SHE FLIPS TOWN TRACKER I'M GONNA GET NKED AND SCREAM TO HELL IN BACK IN THE DEAD THREAD

VOTE: Jaack VOTE:

@Creature you jaack BV

[MariaR]

VOTE: Jaack

[Creature]

Did anyone play Dragon Age mafia btw?

[I Am Innocent]

Can I just assume scum wouldn't bother putting in the time to do that?
Was leaning town on you for gm's shade but wow.

I don't understand the point of IAI doing all of that, and what the conclusions of all that work is, but I agree it's townish for him going out of the way and doing it.

I'm still not sold on the Sotty wagon and would rather be lynching gm.

Right now the realistic lynches are probably
Sotty, hoopla, gm, and it looks like me and maybe you.

I think I'd need your support to lynch gm though. If not then it's sotty or hoop.

I don't think you're a realistic lynch today?

Anyway...

do de do doo

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Sotty

Will switch back to Jack, or to goodmorning/IAI if need be.

So what changed between these posts?

[I Am Innocent]

Did anyone play Dragon Age mafia btw?

I hydra'd with Nero but flaked/never posted. Did read along. What's ur question?

[MariaR]

I wish I did cause I loved the games <3

[BlackVoid]

Okay, so it's been a ridiculously hard decision between Sotty7 and Hoopla. Ultimately, Hoopla's been sort of an enigma while Sotty7 has been more traditionally scummy as well as had the nightkill point towards her. Her lack of noticing Hoopla pushing her is another reason. Finally, I think Hoopla's early scumread on Sotty7 seems more likely to come from a town to a scum than the other way around. Between the two, I'm going for Sotty7.

For Creature, I'll briefly address the claim point - I do think leaving PRs alive is a good idea in general but since we have a Mason claim already, Sotty7 could make it through at least a couple of days before she's expected to answer questions about being nightkilled so best to just go with our reads now. If I'm wrong and just lynched a tracker, I'll feel like a dumbass sure but for now, I'm going to take the risk.

VOTE: Sotty7

[MariaR]

I like how BV says tracker is to much invest power when that's an outright lie

[BlackVoid]

So what changed between these posts?

UNVOTE:

I didn't even notice this. This is awfully convenient just when she got under pressure.

[Raskolnikov]

We already talked about this?

[MariaR]

I hate that were lynching town 2 days in a row regardless lol

[MariaR]

I have work yall do w/e I won't stop this anymore

[BlackVoid]

We already talked about this?

I thought so too but that was different. I asked Hoopla why she changed from not believing Sotty7's claim but wanting to wait to wanting her dead today. IAI pointed out Hoopla straight up townreading Sotty7 to pushing her wagon. If it's all because of the claim and a crazy theory that Sotty7 would fake a guilty tomorrow...

[BlackVoid]

VOTE: Sotty7

Too much evidence here. TwoFace nightkill directly points to her. Her D1 play has been to push a mislynch and I never got the impression she was reading BBT or GreyICE. Way too tunnely. I think I'm ready to roll the dice here. If I'm wrong, there's lots of re-assessment needed.

[Hoopla]

So what changed between these posts?

I had a similar conversation just recently...

I still think Rask and Maria are good people of the town. So, of all your reads I'd be most inclined to lynch Sotty, but that would probably just be based on the claim alone which sounds fishy to me. I really think she claims a largely unprovable decent value PR there 90% of the time as scum and almost never VT. She obviously always claims Tracker as town Tracker, but now that I think about it, given we probably have two mason claims, there's likely only one or two other town PR slots, but there's three scum slots remaining, and since she claims something like this as scum almost always, it's actually more likely this claim comes from scum just from the number of scum left vs. number of PR's left.

[Hoopla]

mmm, so someone that has been thinking about association tells and pairing; sotty and jack don't make sense as partners, right?

[BlackVoid]

No they don't. What about it?