Large Normal 197: Wordplay Mafia OVER

[drealmerz7]

so....after this is all over, if dunns is scum

what are you all going to do for me? buy me ice cream? sing me a song? it won't be enough!

[Titus]

@PV, sheep me on Gear? I have made awesome progress.

@Drealmerz, I will give you an Internet hug. Who else is scum?

[drealmerz7]

like I think RK said way earlier:

the size of my list of who I am okay sr-ing at this point in the game is very disconcerting and uncomfortable

too many people I can see as scum - let's just kill something please
I've flipflopped on gear, I'm okay with his vote

if he flips town will you vote dunns with me tomorrow?

[Titus]

If I said yes, it would be a lie.

[drealmerz7]

then my will is gone

VOTE: gear

[Titus]

You can find credibility on your Dunn theory by finding his hypothetical partners.

Dunn isn't modconfirmed town. It will be hard, but merely resigning is not the solution either. Just take a less direct route. The more your reads are right, the more people listen to your less common theory.

The more your reads with that assumption are wrong, the more you reassess.

[PeregrineV]

@PV, sheep me on Gear? I have made awesome progress.

@Drealmerz, I will give you an Internet hug. Who else is scum?

Gear's 1873 looks pretty town.

Did you read my 1921? I have a reason why each person is where they are.

[drealmerz7]

I feel like I've done it to death is all.

dunns, bins, yoshi, PV/gear - if I'm right about dunn, the group is there I think

nahdia goes back and forth for me but seems to be genuine scumhunting despite some off-ness

gerry I've got town but it's not like it's a read I feel good about

[drealmerz7]

my view on this game is a huge clutter
and it's just getting worse soooo

we'll see what happens

[Titus]

Drealmerz, go back. You have almost everyone but me as scum.

Let's narrow that down. Who did dead scum discredit?

[Titus]

Here's where I'm at

Scummiest
10. Nahdia- you came across badly in the Gear interaction, very much like caught scum.
2. drealmerz7- You are in a Dunn tunnel that has been disputed via posting evidence.

Next scummiest
12. gerryoat- Aside from riding that mafwagon for 2 days straight, no actual evidence you are town
7. BigYoshiFan- The fact I still have you null means you are here.



Town
4. Road Kamelot- really reads as town to me, on the outside chance they are scum, they got me fooled.
5. Aristophanes- claim and action, on outside chance they are scum, they played a great day2 with a great claim.
11. Dunnstral
6. Gear
13. Bins
14. PeregrineV

These reads are so bad I doubt you.

[PeregrineV]

Here's where I'm at

Scummiest
10. Nahdia- you came across badly in the Gear interaction, very much like caught scum.
2. drealmerz7- You are in a Dunn tunnel that has been disputed via posting evidence.

Next scummiest
12. gerryoat- Aside from riding that mafwagon for 2 days straight, no actual evidence you are town
7. BigYoshiFan- The fact I still have you null means you are here.



Town
4. Road Kamelot- really reads as town to me, on the outside chance they are scum, they got me fooled.
5. Aristophanes- claim and action, on outside chance they are scum, they played a great day2 with a great claim.
11. Dunnstral
6. Gear
13. Bins
14. PeregrineV

These reads are so bad I doubt you.

Then doubt each one.

Who do you want to start with?

[Titus]

10. It looks like you're just throwing mud. Reasons for scumreads generally consist of answering why, not platitudes.

[PeregrineV]

10. It looks like you're just throwing mud. Reasons for scumreads generally consist of answering why, not platitudes.

Here are my previous posts on the topic of Nahdhia, inspired by her 3 days of reading drealmerz as scum, followed by today of reading him as town when he tunnels on Dunn

Spoiler: Previouly nested spoilers should be apparant

Kinda agreeing with the sentiment that dreal's latest Bant makes no sense as scum. The frustration over not being townread for punishing Transcend feels genuine but it could just be genuine frustration that a buss didn't earn him any points I'm picking up on.

You have 2 sentences that seem to be talking about the same person, but they are not.

why do you think nahdia is likely to flip scum?

it seems like she's actually putting some effort in to scum-hunting

Your first mention of Nahdia in 72 pages. To complement her in her scumhutning, where she has you pegged as scum for 3+ days

Early Nahdia]

page 7
{Dunnstral}
{Transcend}
{Road Kamelot, SpyreX, drealmerz7, BigYoshiFan}
{PeregrineV, Gear}
{gerryoat}

It really is liberating knowing I'll never have to wear clothes again

page 14
{Dunnstral}
{Transcend, MariaR}
{Road Kamelot, SpyreX, BigYoshiFan, Bins}
{PeregrineV, Gear, Gamma Emerald}
{drealmerz7}
{gerryoat}

It really is liberating knowing I'll never have to wear clothes again

end of d1

{Dunnstral}
{Transcend}
{Road Kamelot, SpyreX, Bins, MariaR}
{Gear, PeregrineV}
{BigYoshiFan}
{drealmerz7}
{gerryoat, Gamma Emerald}

drealmerz7 still just doesn't feel genuine to me at all.

END EARLY NAHDIA

And 1607 seems like a total flip.

Current Nahdia

]

VOTE: dunnstral

come with me if you want to live

is this a serious vote

Why are you so sure dreal is mafia?

I wanna say the fact that dreal is taking this position is town-indicative but there's so much he's ignoring that's so blatant I kind of think he's just bullshitting crazy reads to try to look like bad town.

psa: gears hasn't posted in 9 and a half days.

[/END CURRENT NAHDIA

Stuff like this bugs me. Even worse than you wanting to lynch Dunn.

And 1607 seems like a total flip.

Me questioning someone else's certainty has nothing to do with my own position.

You did a complete 180. Do you not want me to point it out?

In addition, you thought drealmerz was bussing transcend as late as 1583 (8 pages ago).

You are now voting Gear, who was up for replacement and less scummy (according to you) than drealmerz.

I did not find your play or your iso "chock full of scumhunting goodness".

So when you start questioning someone else's scumread on drealmerz all of a sudden, and decide he's not scum anymore, it's gotta be asked about.

I didn't compliment her scum-hunting. I certainly didn't complement it. I said it SEEMS like she's putting SOME effort to it, and in relativity to the rest of most of the group, it's something - but even more to the point, all I was doing was asking someone to elaborate their reasoning for putting nahdia where they did, with a little perspective of my own for impetus of some back and forth about it.

What bugs you exactly?

I assumed you were reading the same game as me.
You want to lynch Dunn who netted us Transcend.
You find effort in Nahdia's posting. A read of her ISO makes that hard to reconcile that opinion.

You're doing shit-tons? I don't see much of anything useful from you.

Are you possibly not reading or not understanding my posts?

I'll make one more effort to explain this. I have a lot of work to do today though so I can't sit around and go through it 10 times.

1587 I'm trying to understand what dreal is doing.
1667 is where my read on dreal shifts, because he was doing something I see 0 scum motivation to do.
1607

has nothing whatsoever to do with my read on dreal. I'm questioning

Gerry

, not telling him he's wrong, but forcing him to explain himself because his language seemed very certain.

Possibly just update this, and we can discuss where and why everyone moved.

{Dunnstral}
{Aristophones}
{Road Kamelot, BigYoshiFan}
{PeregrineV}
{Bins, Gear}
{drealmerz7, gerryoat}

Here's where I'm at

Scummiest
10. Nahdia- you came across badly in the Gear interaction, very much like caught scum.
2. drealmerz7- You are in a Dunn tunnel that has been disputed via posting evidence.

Next scummiest
12. gerryoat- Aside from riding that mafwagon for 2 days straight, no actual evidence you are town
7. BigYoshiFan- The fact I still have you null means you are here.



Town
4. Road Kamelot- really reads as town to me, on the outside chance they are scum, they got me fooled.
5. Aristophanes- claim and action, on outside chance they are scum, they played a great day2 with a great claim.
11. Dunnstral
6. Gear
13. Bins
14. PeregrineV

drealmerz goes from saying nothing to or about Nahdia, to soft defending, to suddenly finding her miraculously healing scumhunting powers have been in use all along.

Read and get back to me.

[Nahdia]

I explained at the time exactly where and how my read on dreal shifted. The way you interpreted it initially was at best a misunderstanding and at worst willful ignorance in order to make a push.

[Nahdia]

But I mean, you just decided to ignore that. So, good for you.

[Gear]

I think we should lynch Yoshi for hammering on day one, for putting transcend in the range where he could self hammer, and for that bullshit case on Bins.

If Yoshi flips scum, then I want to lynch Camelot for her unvote of Yoshi, since her explanation of that move makes little sense to me at this point.

[Gear]

On the other hand if Yoshi is town, I'd bet that the scum team is in Nadia, Peregrine, Gerry and Bins

[Gear]

If I had to pick one to be town there it would be Nadia since she seems to care who gets lynched today

[Gear]

Also guys I already explained that Transcend tried to rush yoshi into hammering by saying he'd doc him if he did. yoshi is prob town

If Yoshi is town, this is pretty likely to be scum Gerry telling us that he knows Yoshi is town, since this reasoning is incomprehensible.

[PeregrineV]

I explained at the time exactly where and how my read on dreal shifted. The way you interpreted it initially was at best a misunderstanding and at worst willful ignorance in order to make a push.

Yes, 1667. After Transcend was lynched and drealmerz starts pushing a Dunn lynch using craplogic. You found his craplogic town after 3 days of finding him the lowest scum.

My interpretation:
I supposes the Mafia Mutual Bussing Society worked until you lost a buddy.

[PeregrineV]

But I mean, you just decided to ignore that. So, good for you.

It did so stretch the limits of credibility.

[PeregrineV]

I think we should lynch Yoshi for hammering on day one, for putting transcend in the range where he could self hammer, and for that bullshit case on Bins.

If Yoshi flips scum, then I want to lynch Camelot for her unvote of Yoshi, since her explanation of that move makes little sense to me at this point.

On the other hand if Yoshi is town, I'd bet that the scum team is in Nadia, Peregrine, Gerry and Bins

I barely read Yoshi as slight town, and your finding associatives from his flip.

[PeregrineV]

....and WAY out front in my quest to have the most posts this game.

BOOM!

[gerryoat]

So seriously to gerrygoat, what are your current reads on all living players and why and howfor did you reach those reads?

Was this ever answered by Gerry?

Don't really care right now. It's not important. I already have my scumread and that's all that matters. No one really stands out as townie to me other than Dunn i guess.