Mini 1851 : Order of the Stick Mafia - Epilogue

Wisdom · Post Post #350 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:41 pm

Wraith/shadow/Leon is my first attempt at a guess

farside22 · Post Post #351 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:28 am

In post 346, SirCakez wrote:
In post 339, SirCakez wrote:
In post 337, farside22 wrote:
In post 301, Infinity 324 wrote:cakes' case is very shallow
Agreed.
Are you even reading my posts?

I didn't read your last big post. I did read your case and the lots of quotes reminded me of biker wars.

In post 349, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 218, Wraith wrote:I liked Infinity for town-lean early but as time goes on I like him less.
No he wasn't @farside

Not sure I like the wraith wagon. The wisdom vote was weird but very sloppy for scum play.

Would like other answers about whether cakez is this shallow as scum vs. town

@cakez What do you think about wisdom's response that he changed playstyle because he felt like it? Do you think that's unlikely?

I don't know who scum is, but that's ok I guess. This game I'll try a more patient approach and not judge anyone until I have a solid read on them.

Town lean is in that sentence. And he didn't explain the issues.
Speaking of which, why did you vote him in the first place?

ISO · Post Post #352 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:52 am

In post 349, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 218, Wraith wrote:I liked Infinity for town-lean early but as time goes on I like him less.
No he wasn't @farside

Not sure I like the wraith wagon. The wisdom vote was weird but very sloppy for scum play.

Would like other answers about whether cakez is this shallow as scum vs. town

@cakez What do you think about wisdom's response that he changed playstyle because he felt like it? Do you think that's unlikely?

I don't know who scum is, but that's ok I guess. This game I'll try a more patient approach and not judge anyone until I have a solid read on them.

Where did he say because he felt like it?
All he said was "because" which could mean a bunch of things.

In post 351, farside22 wrote:
In post 346, SirCakez wrote:
In post 339, SirCakez wrote:
In post 337, farside22 wrote:
In post 301, Infinity 324 wrote:cakes' case is very shallow
Agreed.
Are you even reading my posts?
I didn't read your last big post. I did read your case and the lots of quotes reminded me of biker wars.

OK since you missed it
We're you expecting an indepth, well backed up case based on posts only up to the 6th page?

Infinity 324 · Post Post #353 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:53 am

Yes, "town lean" is in the sentence "I like

d

infinity for town-lean". I don't see how that's relevant. And then he pointed out the stuff in his next post, which was 3 posts later I believe. I don't see the issue.

I voted him because...he commented on a bunch of stuff without trying to scumhunt, but his latest post made me feel a little better in that regard.

But I'm not saying he's town and a wagon on him is as good as any (except maybe cakez). So *shrug*

Wisdom · Post Post #354 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:54 am

In post 353, Infinity 324 wrote:without trying to scumhunt

this is still bullshit

Infinity 324 · Post Post #355 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:57 am

@cakez Ok, even if it's not "because I felt like it". Do you think town!wisdom could potentially want to hide his reason for changing? Don't you think scum!wisdom would've tried to give a better response? Meta changes, so "this is different therefore it's scum" seems weak and I dislike that you're not considering town motivation for changing meta.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #356 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:58 am

In post 18, Wraith wrote:Mr. Scruffy is wondering if there is a reason besides RVS that four players immediately voted Nacho.

In post 52, Wraith wrote:Mr. Scruffy feels excluded from this conversation because it seems like people are using meta to scumhunt on farside.

In post 54, Wraith wrote:
In post 53, Infinity 324 wrote:? I'm not

Do you have any other thoughts
Mr. Scruffy re-read the last page and now realizes where you were coming from.

He also says no, not at this time.

In post 121, Wraith wrote:
In post 120, SirCakez wrote:I'm late rip

VOTE: wisdom
Mr. Scruffy would like to know if this is an RVS vote or has actual backing.

This stuff is at the very least weak in terms of scumhunting motivation

Wisdom · Post Post #357 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:59 am

oh nvm i thought you were still talking about me

ISO · Post Post #358 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:06 am

In post 355, Infinity 324 wrote:@cakez Ok, even if it's not "because I felt like it". Do you think town!wisdom could potentially want to hide his reason for changing? Don't you think scum!wisdom would've tried to give a better response? Meta changes, so "this is different therefore it's scum" seems weak and I dislike that you're not considering town motivation for changing meta.

I don't see why he'd want to hide that.
That's something that's bothering me, but no I don't think he would have.
Meta isn't the whole picture here. I think scum!wisdom tries to play more friendly and less aggressive in this playerlist. I don't think it's a coincidence he just "happened" to decide he wanted to play this game less aggressively (still waiting on a legitimate reason for that btw)

Wisdom · Post Post #359 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:07 am

i find it disturbing you're still going on about that

ISO · Post Post #360 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:10 am

i find it disturbing you never answered the question legitimately

Wisdom · Post Post #361 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:11 am

i dont answer useless questions

ISO · Post Post #362 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:12 am

ok then my vote will remain on you

Wisdom · Post Post #363 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:14 am

suit yourself

Infinity 324 · Post Post #364 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:51 am

VOTE: cakez

Maybe I'm colored by my frustration but this is shitty.

He just refuses to consider town motivation for changing meta and also refuses to consider the disadvantages of playing so obviously differently as scum when multiple people in the game have played with him before.

I think town would be approaching it differently.

Infinity 324 · Post Post #365 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:52 am

If you're actually concerned about wisdom not trying to appease you, why don't you express doubts? Or question him on other things?

Infinity 324 · Post Post #366 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:53 am

Not to mention coming in with a single scumread and making little effort to sort anyone else is shitty play from town and more likely to come from scum.

Wraith · Post Post #367 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:57 am

In post 351, farside22 wrote:
In post 346, SirCakez wrote:
In post 339, SirCakez wrote:
In post 337, farside22 wrote:
In post 301, Infinity 324 wrote:cakes' case is very shallow
Agreed.
Are you even reading my posts?
I didn't read your last big post. I did read your case and the lots of quotes reminded me of biker wars.

In post 349, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 218, Wraith wrote:I liked Infinity for town-lean early but as time goes on I like him less.
No he wasn't @farside

Not sure I like the wraith wagon. The wisdom vote was weird but very sloppy for scum play.

Would like other answers about whether cakez is this shallow as scum vs. town

@cakez What do you think about wisdom's response that he changed playstyle because he felt like it? Do you think that's unlikely?

I don't know who scum is, but that's ok I guess. This game I'll try a more patient approach and not judge anyone until I have a solid read on them.
Town lean is in that sentence. And he didn't explain the issues.
Speaking of which, why did you vote him in the first place?

Yeah I don't like this one. I clearly explained why my read had changed.

Wraith · Post Post #368 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:58 am

omgus maybe but w/e

Unvote

Vpte: farside

Wraith · Post Post #369 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:59 am

In post 348, Bulbazak wrote:Alrighty then...

@Nacho: Give me your thoughts on Wisdom when you can. I'm not sure if I'm looking at 1305 Wisdom here, or if this is the amicable scum Wisdom I've been seeing a lot lately. I'm not sure how much I'm going to be around over the next few days, but I'll try to do my best with anything else you want to talk about.

@Wraith: Why'd you stop with the Mr. Fluffy talk? I found it strange in general, but I found you stopping to be kinda abrupt.

Vote Shaddowez

I could go Wraith too, but I'm not sure it's as good a vote.

Mr Scruffy says "It was time to get serious."

Wraith · Post Post #370 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:01 am

Nacho and Kraska have moved into my soft townreads.

Still not sure what to make of Infinity.

Wraith · Post Post #371 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:01 am

In post 368, Wraith wrote:omgus maybe but w/e

Unvote

Vpte: farside

EBWOP

Vote: farside

Infinity 324 · Post Post #372 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:03 am

I love it when people refuse to look beyond the surface but I can't read them as scum for it because town do that too.

Think. Maybe scum!farside wouldn't say something that would be disproved so easily? Maybe her issue is bigger than "I didn't see that you said why you're read changed therefore you're scum"?

Wisdom · Post Post #373 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:10 am

VOTE: shadow

MagnaofIllusion · Post Post #374 (ISO) » Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:03 am

Vote Count 1.4

- as of post 373

shaddowez (2) - Bulbazak, Wisdom
Nachomamma8 (2) - Kagami, Tammy
SirCakez (2) - PeregrineV, Infinity 324
Wraith (2) -Nachomamma8, farside22
farside22 (1) - Wraith
PeregrineV (1) - shaddowez
Kagami (1) - kraska77
kraska77 (1) - Leonshade
Wisdom (1) - SirCakez

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