Mini Normal 1844 Firework Mafia. Game Over

[Transcend]

IM FUCKING BETTER THAN YOU AT THIS GAME

LYNCH OUTSIDE

YOU HAVE

A FUCKING CHANCE

AT AUTOWIN

[JaeReed]

I'm not lynching outside the doc claims. What you're proposing is literally 50/50 at autowin/autoloss and I see no reason to do it.

Like, what are you gonna do if we lynch outside the doc claims, Hermie flips town, and I get nightkilled anyway? You'll have Titus as confscum but you aren't likely to find the 3rd partner, and you'll likely lynch VWXYZ even though I'm actually fairly certain he's town because of the way Cloud pushed on him.

Not to mention, I don't trust you. I don't know you're town. I heavily lean on it because of your interactions with Cloud but you've managed to drive two mislynches and your post in twilight with Cloud's trolling was really awkward, as smith pointed out at the time.

[Transcend]

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[Transcend]

how many fucking times to i have to drag your ass in these games

i literally dragged your ass in pantheon mafia even though your wincon ws really eeasy

you fucking shatthe bed in nahdia's mini normal and shadow run mafia

maybe u should listen to me again this time

[Transcend]

im not proposing 50/50 autowin/autoloss

how is it autoloss?

say you mislynch someone outside

u will figure out who is the real doc as i said before.

then you're stuck with a 4 waywhich was going to happen ANYWAYS if we lynched OUTSIDE OF DOCS

u dont understand the fucking game honestly

im literally a mastermind when it comes to strategies at mafia

[Transcend]

INSIDE OF DOCS******************

[JaeReed]

running scenarios to work out if we're any worse off. gimme a sec.

[Transcend]

alright

i'm positive i'm right though

like absolutely positive

i don't mean to be an ass

i'm sorry

[JaeReed]

Alright, so after running the scenarios, even a mislynch on Hermie is better at this stage, because we're removing an absolutely useless town that I don't think will put in the effort at lylo and is mislynch bait regardless.

The best scenario is Hermie as scum, because if he's town then we're kinda fucked. I can possibly see Io putting in the effort if she's town to consider both VW and Transcend equally but I can't see Transcend reconsidering on Io and I can't see VW putting in the effort if he's town to turn things around. I think VW is town due to the way Cloud was pushing him which was super scummy to me when I thought Cloud was confscum to me.

But yeah I can see what you're saying.

And yeah you're cool, I know you're just frustrated w/ not being listened to & the way the game has gone so far. We're cool, man.

I think your idea helps cuz it removes lynchbait/useless town before lylo at its worst, and at its best we get the other scum.

[JaeReed]

The apology is appreciated tho <3 Just I know you usually don't mean anything toxic by it when you're bein that way cuz I've seen you're generally a nice dude and know if you go too far I can just ask you to back it up

[Transcend]

no prob im also not sober

i appreciate that you think i'm nice

thank you

[JaeReed]

I'm gonna say, Io in the neighbourhood did a lot of spec before even inviting someone about how if she invited scum into the 'hood she'd be screwed over, how best to use her ability and such... and her first invite was Cloud so I doubt that was all just setup for like D3 where she'd have smith. If it was then I fucking commend her for her foresight, because I literally can't see her being scum right now.

That said, I am not 100% on Transcend, VW, and Smith.
Smith I'm more sure on because of the consistency in his play between days and in the neighbourhood. He would have had to adjust his play specifically for me while still not triggering any flags with everyone else and I really doubt he has the ability to do that with his wolf game (sorry smith).
VW is my second highest because of the way Cloud was pushing him. The way he reacted to me defending him reminded me of the way alban reacted to RC coming in during Cocktail Party (newbie game) when I was pushing alban hard and RC came in townreading him. Both Cloud and VW with their interactions on D3 made me believe strongly that VW could not possibly be a partner for Cloud.
Similarly, Cloud threw a lot of shade on Transcend for being wrong twice in a row where I feel like he could have just let it lie? He also had a lot of early interactions (sheeping votes and interactions that didn't feel forced) that make me lean towards not buddies. But that's a lighter read than the rest and I really hope it doesn't come down to that. In that case I think Io would be around though so I'll trust in her to look through things and weigh it up in the end, I think.

Thankfully Impo is conftown because I have major issues with paranoia with people I care about.

Spoiler: let us never speak of my titus thoughts bcuz let's be honest it's just me gushing

Titus is way more charismatic in real-time than I ever would have imagined. Playing against her is terrifying if she's scum here. Like, logic dictates that she should be the only lynch today but almost every fibre of my being is screaming against it and I know part of that is just that I'm finally playing with my idol, and another part is that I really want her to be of my alignment because I want to believe in her since I know she can lead us to victory if town... But really she just knows how to appeal to me and it's painfully obvious to me that she does know that, regardless of alignment. Like, it's really messing with me. I think if she's town she wouldn't mind the 1 for 1 trade though also, which is another reason I kinda wanted to lynch in the doc claims, because I trust her to give the correct theory regardless of alignment but also I think she'd value me thinking for myself as well but damnit I really actually want to trust her because everything she says makes me want to sheep. She's like a charmer or something and idunno how much of that is even me just...being me with an idol. I just... the more I interact with her the more I want to follow her and I know I need to be REALLY careful with that given the slot she replaced into and just...rip my common sense.

I'm finally in a game with Titus and I really don't want her to be scum q.q

[JaeReed]

WHY DID I POST ALL THAT ALASIFOASFJDLS NO I TAKE IT BACK STOP THE PRESSES

[Hermie]

Lynch me if you want. I'm town.


Cloud kicker talked the transcemd more then anyone else before she was hammered. In twilight zone see talked to transcend 1 time and it was something like "YOUR BAD BRO YOU GOT 3 TOWNIES HAMMERED'. To me all of her talking with trans could reasonably have been s to s. It feels like a way to get each other town read.

[Io]

I don't think we should lynch a Doctor.
At some point the Mafia has to kill one of them. If they kill Jae then we know Titus is lying and confirmed scum.
If they ever kill Jae then we get a Tracker who cannot die.
If they kill the Doc then we kill the other. It's simple.

[Io]

*never not ever.

[Transcend]

Hi

What's up

[Transcend]

I'm sober now just a giant hangover

[Titus]

Yeah, I don't see how lynching outside the Doctors does anything right now. Mhsmith0 is confirmed scum to me and this smells like a trap to mislynch Hermie and frame me.

[Titus]

I will not vote anyone but mhsmith0 today as he is confirmed scum to me.

[Io]

Yeah, I don't see how lynching outside the Doctors does anything right now. Mhsmith0 is confirmed scum to me and this smells like a trap to mislynch Hermie and frame me.

Because it forces scum to keep Jae alive by having one of their claimants be on the line.
You are confirmed scum if he or Smith dies and Smith is confirmed scum if you die.
Sure scum can sacracice you or Smith but it still benefits us a lot more to lynch someone than who is not one of you.

[Transcend]

With my method, scum absolutely CANNOT bus their partner, or they will be in auto loss.

Titus is protecting the shit out of Hermie, who, truthfully, doesn't deserve to have the shit protected out of.

I'm pretty content with my vote.

[Io]

It does not matter if he is confirmed scum to you. Keeping him alive keeps 2 power roles alive.
Stop being stuborn and play to help the town rather than declaring you will not vote today.

[Transcend]

I will not vote anyone but mhsmith0 today as he is confirmed scum to me.

You seem absolutely certain I'm scum

Why wouldn't you take a bite and lynch me? If you're right, you have auto win.

[Transcend]

And if you're wrong, you are a full doctor and the tracker won't go anywhere.