STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[farside22]

@Farside: Can you get varsoon to clarify if whatever you used to check him let's you know if someone gets passive benefits (like the bp of SCs role or the immunity to their allies actions of Titus' role) of if it tells you if it enables access to a power, OR both?

Because like he said, we've had our pt around ever since the season finale, so it seems most likely that you're misunderstanding your result(or I guess thar he's scum and has a teammate who used this power to make our pt permanent). Did you say when you received this result?

-Cerb

Not specifically but I'm aware that titus could not be killed by those in an alliance with her. My ability checked all 3 of you that night.

All I get is player has no alliance ability or I'm told if they have an alliance ability.
Ie: can only be triggered while in an alliance

Wait, so your power told you that titus couldn't be killed by those allied with her, but only returns whether or not someone has an alliance ability? Can you ask Varsoon if someone has a power they can use anytime, but which only affects allies and is thus useless when one isn't in an alliance, would show up? I'm trying to reconcile the result you have with my belief that a scum team with Shiro on it seems very unlikely to have tried to kill MoI, and the fact that the pt was indeed extended.

-Cerb

I can ask but I'm pretty sure the response will be no.

If so, why did Shiro say he didn't do anything because he wasn't in an alliance?

[mastin2]

Creature:

I would appreciate every player listing who they submitted for an alliance every stage, and whether it failed or succeeded.

[Creature]

Pregame: randomidget
Night 1: Shiro. Failed
Night 2: SnarkySnowman
Night 3: Xkfyu and Shadow_step
Night 4: grapes. Failed
Night 5: Shiro

[Creature]

If I could ally during the day, I wasn't aware.

[mastin2]

I WANNA PLAY LUCHA

Also, I've hesitated on whether to claim this but I actually know what this refers to. It's a subgame of sorts, a game within the game.

[mastin2]

dear friends
i can tamper with the stress and increase it by 4
should i ?

For what it's worth still think kraska is scum for offering this yet not following through and doing it.

[farside22]

Hmmm I'm rereading shiro's comment.

I need to find that chart of alliances done for day 3.

Moi: during Climax I can find out if a player gets any alliance bonus and I know who they are allied with.
I targetted rr, but because it was the season finale I got all 3 players info that night.
Rr saying he got no bonus is true.

[Creature]

Also, I noticed that as this is Slice of Life, all town players require one less vote to be lynched, so if you put someone at L-1 and the day doesn't end, that player is scum.

[Creature]

If someone's at L-1, don't place any more votes, let that player say his thought (or claim scum) and wait the mod.

[mastin2]

Near Town

RR – His interactions show me that he is trying to solve the game. Also the Hydra dissonance. I feel this shows that both heads are active and trying to solve the game.
TheFuzzylogic99 – Based on Math’s read since Math flipped town.
Almost50
Grapes

Null

Kraskaeaque
Xkfyu – I wanted to have a PT with him to better sort him. Part of why I am leaning scum on him is his claim he made in our PT. He’s also making no attempt to sort my alignment. I am not seeing anything in the thread that makes me think he’s town. But I have other input from Steven indicating that he is town. So I'm not sure which way to go here.

Almost Scum

Farside – I felt she was town in our PT. The things putting her here instead of the next level up is the stubbornness and game play like blowing up the Joy Ride and the weird claim. I’m not opposed to lynching her but would rather lynch from my scum pool right now.

Scum Pool

DGB – no attempts to figure the game out and weird claims/gambits.
TWIE – Haven’t seen much from him (if anything). I know this is the way that TWIE normally is, but by now I would expect to start seeing some insights into players.
Snarkysnowman

Still Processing

Shadow Step
Shiro
Not Chara
MagnaofIllusion
McMenno
Creature
Randomidget
Firebringer

Worth mentioning: Skybird knew DGB was scum at this point. So she was bussing both DGB and TWIE, sort of an inverted rule of three (two scum and one town).

We know she has two scumbuddies left.
Fuzzy/RR/(Almost)/(grapes) are in the Near Town.
kraska is in null.
farside is in near-scum.
Shadow/Shiro/Creature are in the Still Processing.

The question to ask is...where would Skybird place her two scumbuddies?
Are they both in near town? (No.) Both in Still Processing? (Extremely unlikely.)

If not, then which two categories do you think Skybird placed her scumbuddies?

I personally find it basically impossible for that Still Sorting list to be all town, so Shadow/Shiro/Creature should have a scum name in it.
And Fuzzy/RR/kraska/farside should also have a scum name in it as a result.

[mastin2]

Every way I'm slicing it, right now it looks like Fuzzy/kraska/farside/Creature are the top candidates for being scum here.
I have a minor bias in thinking farside is town.
I have a minor bias in thinking Creature is scum.
I have a major bias in thinking kraska is scum.

[mastin2]

VOTE: Snarky
Gg

this a guilty?

Also, this is extremely out of place for someone who was scumreading Shadow_step.
It looks like scum who are hoping/trying to take advantage of a town-V-town fight.

[Creature]

Yeah, I believe kraska is most likely scum than RR.

[Creature]

If we lynch kraska, I can get results on someone of your choice.

[mastin2]

This is why we lynch TWIE first.

By the way, main thing I'm looking for is Creature's stance on TWIE post-guilty. He was saying this a lot on D3.

[Creature]

lol I doubted he was a vigilante again.

[mastin2]

What is the case on twie?

This line is concerning to me though.
It's not possible if kraska is scum, but if kraska is town then Shadow is someone I'd want to keep an eye on at the least.

[Creature]

kraska or Shiro, what's your pick?

[Creature]

8000th post, done for today.

[farside22]

An ability in the game has confirmed that Farside22 is NOT in a Masonry with Firebringer.
The Stress has increased by 1, towards 'Tragic Destiny'. The current stress is +1.

This. I notice it doesn't say it's an event though, so maybe not? IF so, all events have been claimed I believe.

-Cerb

That's not an event.
That was me. I got points for doing that.

Claimed Events

–

Creature – “Rising Tides, Crashing Skies”
RR – None left
Kraska – ???
Shadow – None
Almost50 - ???
Grapes - ???
Shiro – “Well,whatever you are don't be a stranger.”
Farside22 – “Cool Down Lap”
Fuzzylogic - “Are You In there Steven”

@farside

– Can you explain a little more in depth what your “check” entails? Thanks.

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I need to be in an alliance to use my vig ability.... I think I was blocked bc someone prob thought I might kill the wrong person,,,,,,,

Remind me again of the details of your Vig and if you have used it prior to now. Thanks!

If you need more then the what I wrote for the event let me know. As I said it was a lot longer.

Who DGB allied with during Beach-a-palooza event?

Twie

[mastin2]

Easily kraska.
But where I'm at right now.
Is basically:
If you believe that SirCakez was an all-town wagon, the scumteam is by necessity comprised of Fuzzy/Creature/Shadow/farside/Almost50.
If you believe that DGB was an all-town wagon, the scumteam is by necessity comprised of Shadow + kraska/RR/Almost.

If you believe in both the ONLY possible scumteam is Shadow + Almost50.
If you believe the first but not the second, then one or two of Fuzzy/Creature/farside is/are scum bussing DGB.
If you believe the second but not the first, then one of kraska/RR must be scum bussing SirCakez.

If you believe in neither, well then that's where things get interesting.

[mastin2]

I'm leaving for dancing, so I'll continue later.

There's so many calculations to do, but we're very damn close to having the answers we want here.

[farside22]

Full claim

I'm Kevin
Number 1 I can check if a player has an alliance bonus and know whom they are aligned with that night. During the finale I find not only about the player i target but everyone in the alliance ability as well.
I can do that 2x per game.
Number 2: I gain Kevin point. Points are earned as follows:
Stopping a player who performed an action. Players that target me. Disbanding an alliance I earn a point per player. Claiming I was mason I earned points, revoking the claimed mason ability via the mod earned points, being lynched 1x earned points and alliance with the same player earns a point.
So if I roleblock an action I'm told how many points I am at or told I didn't earn points if an action isn't stopped.
At any point I can exchange my points to have my vote added. Each extra vote cost me a KP.
20 points and I become 3rd party and leave the game.
I have one event that can only be triggered when the thing is at +1. Which is the cool down lap.
Basically it can mod confirm a player if they truthfully tell me all their abilities, no more then 10 truthful things and I gain points from it.

[Almost50]

Who DGB allied with during Beach-a-palooza event?

TWIE

[kraska77]

My event was cutfunding
Is there anything else you guys want me to claim?