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posting. i'll read in a sec

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I regret skimming the first few pages. all i see is

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Joshz I'm gonna need you to get an avi fam. Do you need one? I can make one for you so you can upload it.

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Gerry flipped scum

ok

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Gerry flipped scum

ok

bad reaction
VOTE: Gerry

ok

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VOTE: Gerryoat

Nice ISO there m8

wow you're an expert scumhunter. voting someone because of their iso because they've only been in the game once so far. hats off to you man, please someone get this person a trophy

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uhhhh i'll read the game n a bit. prob in a few hours

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Vote Count 1.12

Biologists will tell you the Macaroni Penguin isn’t able to fly due to their wings being very stiff. Lies.

mykonian

(5): Road Kamelot, Joshz, gigabyteTroubadour, Transcend, ssbm_Kyouko

Transcend

(2): Gamma Emerald, mykonian

ssbm_Kyouko

(2): kraska77, MTD

Gamma Emerald

(1): Errantparabola

gerryoat

(1): XnadrojX

Joshz

(1): MariaR

Not Voting

: gerryoat

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

Notes: MTD currently V/LA

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-11-22 17:06:00)

i read the last VC and uh, lets not quick lynch here. i'll read the person later but still chill

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GOSH. I'm starting to get the reputaton of being useless on this site.

OKAY. From now on I'm gonna be so townie that I'll have to be n1'd every game because people are gonna be like "OMG HE'S SO TOWNIE. WE HAVE TO N1 HIM" GET READY GUYS. U JUST STARTED THE GERRY ERA.

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josh you not having an avi triggers me for some reason. plz try and get one. anyway i'm gonna read an iso on a few people and see what i come up with.

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Before I do that, I wanna say something seems off about Maria this game, but I don't wanna lynch her right now.

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tfw Rem subs out. I had some DANK Re:Zero memes for them I was gonna post all game.

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Yea PS = pokemon showdown

battle me on pokemon showdown sometime. who else plays??

Also, i kinda lean town on Josh right now for a few different reasons. MTD can you explain the scumread on him besides the argument things? I really don't see how causing arguments is scummy in itself as it can show partner or non partner reads.

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Okay, can someone explain the mykonin bw? his posts aren't even bad at all. I'm actually struggling to find a post that was bad.

everyone who's not voting mykonian:
why are you not voting mykonian?

I won't because he's town.

seems a bit forced on himself, I guess. But it was pretty early onto the game. So, I'd give that a pass.

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mykonian, I would usually agree with that. But those 2 are friends, and I actually see why he unvoted her, so I wouldn't look too much into it. There is a chance that they could be teamed, because of a series of lines that seemed a bit scripted to me, but for now I'd probably say no for now.

Is there anyone else you fos? What do you think of the people voting you? Is there any you TR that are voting you? Is there any you scumread?

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Every completed game I've been in with gamma he's been town, so he HAS to be mafia now. Law of averages

VOTE: Gamma

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First part is a joke, but the vote is not. I think that Gamma seems a bit off this game. A lot of his posts leave a lot more to desired and they seem a little half assed than usual. I'll try and quote some in a sec.

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Spoiler:

RQS Time!

1) What roles do you like? What roles do you not like?

2) What is a behavior you would lynch if the person who did it was a null read?

3) Who, if town, would you trust with your vote?

My answers:

1) I like Jailkeeper for its multiple uses. Don't like Bus Drivers or Ascetics.
2) I don't like people being inconsiderate.
3) MariaR or kraska, maybe EP or myko

I will laugh if this game become Family Mafia round 2
Wait that can't happen because I'm not scum

I FUCKING SWEAR
STOP INTERFERING WITH MY SYSTEM

I don't drink but whatever

Whatever
I was trying to see if Josh actually did shit later, thanks for making me out the plan you pieces of trash

1 has applications with claims I feel
2 was to make sure no one pissed anyone else off
3 was a "who do you consider good at scumhunting" question
Also an addendum: Add Transcend to my answer for 3

1 has applications with claims I feel
2 was to make sure no one pissed anyone else off
3 was a "who do you consider good at scumhunting" question
Also an addendum: Add Transcend to my answer for 3

why would you ask a question with applications to claims as town?? unless i'm totally misunderstanding what you just said i'm lost.

Catching fakers

I'm pretty sure Gamma lied or made something up and I dislike his reaction because you said your "big plan" has to do with josh and when I push you you're just like "back off!"
See it's much better when I don't have to read pages full of bs

?
How is it faked

The way you worded it it sounded like you came upon something BIG HUGE and then when I pushed you on it you just said STOP YOU'RE RUINING MY PLAN AND I don't see what the big plan with Josh is after I already explained let me go quote it

Whatever
I explained that I was waiting to see if he followed through
He's posting stuff anyway so it doesn't even matter

LOL
Also how's my new sig

I think Josh's is drunk

Apparently reactive devaluation deals with rejecting proposals of enemies
I don't get how it matters here

god I hope I did this right or there will be a huge wall of text lol. But, I feel like most of this is filler/irrelevant or forced. And I didn't even quote all of it, just some that stuck out.

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I'd be happy if you could try to bundle some of your thoughts into single posts i think.

Sure thing, friend. But, in the meantime, could you please answer?

MTD can you explain the scumread on him besides the argument things? I really don't see how causing arguments is scummy in itself as it can show partner or non partner reads.

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Spoiler: transcend backtracking

Reason I'm not talking much is I feel like shit today and everything I read goes out the other ear but that's not really a good excuse.

You're right.

It isn't.

Rest of your game looks bleh as well.

Like it's not scummy, but it's objectively not towny?

ho's scum with Road Kamelot?

Surely you have other scumreads besides her... tell me what you're thinking.

Kraska I remember as being much more involved in the game I modded with her. You (transcend) have come into this game reading the first 2 pages, then making it all about me and how you want to vote me, then skimmed the next 12 and are set on lynching, doesn't look town. Josh I still haven't seen anything from and he's getting a free pass, null leaning scum. Same for gerry but he's simply not here, less intimidating. Maria would be my blind spot scum, she got off to a good start sounding reasonable, and hasn't really been challenged along the way, they tend to trip me up. Same goes for MTD, but less pronounced. Doesn't help that I like him. I think I have gamma pegged, EP looked towniest, the rest takes time.

can agree with you about MariaR.

so you have all these scumreads or at least "non-townreads" and it took me questioning your motives to out all of these???

Joshz:

How do you read for scum?

PEDIT: MariaR scumming it up more and more, page by page.

There's been some awful votes this game, but that vote on Josh was just inexcusable.

VOTE: MariaR

VOTE: mykonian

my vote was mostly a WTF are you doing anyways Claire

Hell no. You were leading up to that Maria vote, this wasn't a spur of the moment "wtf are you doing" thing. And that vote didnt pan out somehow, because this backtracking is something.

vote Transcend

This is as close as we are going to get to catching scum redhanded.

Are we seriously going to let transcend get away with this?

hey how do you put words in the spoiler = thingy. like a title thing

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Josh is indeed trying to reduce things to semantic arguments.
Also Josh is scum.

Well this implied that he was scum for doing it, no need to get all snappy MTD. Take that chill pill for real

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Spoiler: test

test

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Yea PS = pokemon showdown

battle me on pokemon showdown sometime. who else plays??

Also, i kinda lean town on Josh right now for a few different reasons. MTD can you explain the scumread on him besides the argument things? I really don't see how causing arguments is scummy in itself as it can show partner or non partner reads.

I play PS
I'm kinda good

Lol you tryna lose?

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Something seems off about me and yet Gerry's joining the same wagon as me TYEERYREXYR5XUY5

Yes, how does it make you feel that your scumread is voting the person you're voting?

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How is my content forced

It just is, and it doesn't even look like you're trying to scumhunt, more along going with the motions.

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Something seems off about me and yet Gerry's joining the same wagon as me TYEERYREXYR5XUY5

Yes, how does it make you feel that your scumread is voting the person you're voting?

Shouldn't I be asking you this question

I already outed why I'm voting him and i didn't care if you were voting him or not. I'm saying how do you feel about me, your scumread, following the person you're voting. Answer and don't deflect please.

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Gerryoat is

P r o b a b l y

Town

Why am I p r o b a b l y town? What have I done to even warrant a semi townread from you? I have only been here in 2 separate spurts. The first time I barely posted anything, and the second time was me having a bunch of sporadic thoughts in a series of of posts.

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I actually think xnad had more questionable votes. His reasonings for them were quickly debunked by others which caused him to switch them as quickly as he made them.

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myk's content is much better than xnad. You can't be voting myk solely because you think his votes are suspect are you? That wouldn't make much sense. Could you iso both of them and tell me which one you think is objectively scummier?

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alternatively, you could iso gamma and tell me what you think. He is voting you right now, so maybe an iso on him for you would be easier for you to see if his vote on you is justified or falsified.

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Who is town, gamma? Why is he town?

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yeah maria feels pretty scummy

How so? I think all 3 of us has said this, but I would like for you to expand your reasoning on this read. I know why I feel she is scummy, but I feel we wouldn't have the same reason. So I am curious to hear your thoughts on her.

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Something seems off about me and yet Gerry's joining the same wagon as me TYEERYREXYR5XUY5

Yes, how does it make you feel that your scumread is voting the person you're voting?

Shouldn't I be asking you this question

I already outed why I'm voting him and i didn't care if you were voting him or not. I'm saying how do you feel about me, your scumread, following the person you're voting. Answer and don't deflect please.

I'm not deflecting when I never had a sr on you in the first place you blind bat -_-

Gerry flipped scum

ok

bad reaction
VOTE: Gerry

Are you sure about that? Because it clearly states here that you did. If you changed your read, why did you? Also, can you explain the reason why you decided to say I flipped scum if you can remember? Try not to deflect anymore.

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Jailor gets to jail someome each night. Said person is immune to all night actions. Jailor gets to question that person and decide whether or not to hang them.

I assume you're from epicmafia?

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Giga, I think it would be easier if you just outed a reads list in order, as it would make it easier to follow for the lazier ones. 2 questions.

1.) Do you honestly TR Maria for this line?

I'm not trying to be towny? I'm trying to play a game

If so, why? I can assure you that the line you're are referring to can be easily faked, especially since MariaR isn't a new player who would say it more naturally. Is there past context that makes you read into that line more than you should be?

2.) What does fmott mean?

I was obviously being facetious when I was saying that the law of averages would be the reason why gamma is mafia sided, but I do like the fact that it looked as though you were actually reading in order.

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I'm starting to TR MTD, based on their tone in a few posts. Though I can't say it's that strong, it's still the highest townread I have encountered in this game so far.

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I didn't know some many people were into pokemon here, I'm excited for the new gen nerfs and buffs. Either way, Josh who would you say you TR and scumread the most. Top 2 for both

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I didn't know some many people were into pokemon here, I'm excited for the new gen nerfs and buffs. Either way, Josh who would you say you TR and scumread the most. Top 2 for both

Myk gamma

Idk town

Is it possible that I could talk you into voting Gamma instead here?

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Something seems off about me and yet Gerry's joining the same wagon as me TYEERYREXYR5XUY5

Yes, how does it make you feel that your scumread is voting the person you're voting?

Shouldn't I be asking you this question

I already outed why I'm voting him and i didn't care if you were voting him or not. I'm saying how do you feel about me, your scumread, following the person you're voting. Answer and don't deflect please.

I'm not deflecting when I never had a sr on you in the first place you blind bat -_-

Gerry flipped scum

ok

bad reaction
VOTE: Gerry

Are you sure about that? Because it clearly states here that you did. If you changed your read, why did you? Also, can you explain the reason why you decided to say I flipped scum if you can remember? Try not to deflect anymore.

I'm not deflecting it's called making a joke just like your scumhunting skills gerry

This is interesting. You're insulting my scumhunting skills, yet I'm voting the person you think is mafia? Is that a mental slip or what are you trying to say? You basically just called the person you're voting town by extension.

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Maria, you already knew I was trying to get Gamma lynched as seen here.

Something seems off about me and yet Gerry's joining the same wagon as me TYEERYREXYR5XUY5

Because of this turn of events, it kind of seems as though you're posturing and putting on an a theatre act now. Basically trying to backtrack your recent comments.

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I have no idea what that even means so I doubt I can even do what you're asking.

You don't know what which statement means? You're implying that my scumhunting skills were bad, when you knew I was voting the person you think is mafia. Thus meaning the person we are voting is town and not mafia. You then tried to claim that you were surprised by me trying to get Josh to lynch Gamma (your scumread) But, as I just proved, you already knew that. So it seems as though you were posturing to act surprised a though you didn't know that I wanted Gamma lynched, which already was proven to be acknowledged by you.

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Yo Gerry you keep tip toeing around voting me please either put your money where your mouth is and vote me or do something useful.

This is what I mean by posturing.

1.) You see that I'm voting Gamma

2.) Acknowledge i'm voting Gamma

3.) Say my scumhunting is bad

4.) Quote a post of me asking Josh to lynch Gamma acting surprised.

5.) deflect the fact that I am asking you why you'd say my scumhunting was bad when you knew I was voting your scumread

6.) Act like I'm not doing anything useful when you just admitted that you were happy that I was trying to get your read lynched.

7.) Decide to not answer the questions and then get defensive when pushed on the reasonable questions.

These sequence of events show that either your acting scatterbrained right now, or the fact that you are falsifying reads and are contradicting yourself.

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Yo Gerry you keep tip toeing around voting me please either put your money where your mouth is and vote me or do something useful.

This is what I mean by posturing.

1.) You see that I'm voting Gamma

2.) Acknowledge i'm voting Gamma

3.) Say my scumhunting is bad

4.) Quote a post of me asking Josh to lynch Gamma acting surprised.

5.) deflect the fact that I am asking you why you'd say my scumhunting was bad when you knew I was voting your scumread

6.) Act like I'm not doing anything useful when you just admitted that you were happy that I was trying to get your read lynched.

7.) Decide to not answer the questions and then get defensive when pushed on the reasonable questions.

These sequence of events show that either your acting scatterbrained right now, or the fact that you are falsifying reads and are contradicting yourself.

See the problem with this is all the statement I've made towards you has been a joke post and I thought you knew that when I said it multiple times I guess I am a bit scatterbrained because I have no idea where all of this is coming from
the only thing that confused me about you is you're saying something feels off about me but you join a bw that I was on with no hesitation that doesn't add up to me

That is fair, but if it doesn't add up, wouldn't you be asking more questions as to why I joined your bandwagon? I asked you how it made you feel and you deflected the question until now. Why not ask why?

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I'll iso mykonian one more time, but from my first encounter with his ISO, I determined he is probably going to be a mislynch.

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Okay, I read one post that made me lean that myk is probably townsided this game. I implore those who are voting him, to delve back into his ISO and see what new information you can receive from it.

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Can you quote where you asked me how I felt about the wagon cause I don't remember that at all.

Something seems off about me and yet Gerry's joining the same wagon as me TYEERYREXYR5XUY5

Yes, how does it make you feel that your scumread is voting the person you're voting?

Shouldn't I be asking you this question

I already outed why I'm voting him and i didn't care if you were voting him or not. I'm saying how do you feel about me, your scumread, following the person you're voting. Answer and don't deflect please.

You even acknowledged it. So, I ask again, why are you being uncharacteristically forgetful this game?

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I am not touchy, I am simply pointing out contradictions when I see them. If you didn't have any contradictions to be pointed out, we wouldn't be having this discussion right now.

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You just admitted you contradicted yourself a few posts before, yet now you're saying you don't have any contradictions.

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I guess I am a bit scatterbrained because I have no idea where all of this is coming

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VOTE: maria

Okay.

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No, you just keep contradicting yourself over and over again. At this point, I can't not vote you.

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You have 0 idea what a contradiction is gerry

Okay, let's see what the others think.

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Yo Gerry you keep tip toeing around voting me please either put your money where your mouth is and vote me or do something useful.

This is what I mean by posturing.

1.) You see that I'm voting Gamma

2.) Acknowledge i'm voting Gamma

3.) Say my scumhunting is bad

4.) Quote a post of me asking Josh to lynch Gamma acting surprised.

5.) deflect the fact that I am asking you why you'd say my scumhunting was bad when you knew I was voting your scumread

6.) Act like I'm not doing anything useful when you just admitted that you were happy that I was trying to get your read lynched.

7.) Decide to not answer the questions and then get defensive when pushed on the reasonable questions.

These sequence of events show that either your acting scatterbrained right now, or the fact that you are falsifying reads and are contradicting yourself.

Hi, everyone. Is what maria did in these sequences contradicting? Yes or no

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VOTE: gamma

I guess gamma has been more scummy than maria has been contradictory.

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Kraska, can you tell me what you're so confused about? Certainly if you've been reading the game, my vote should not surprise you.

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Not voting at this stage of the game on top of already being my second biggest scum read... bleh

Sorry hadn't decided a good vote yet
VOTE: Gerry
His vote on me is opportunistic

Oh dear, how so? You're saying it's opportunistic in which way? Let me explain to you in a way that not only will you know that you're wrong, everyone will know you haven't been reading the game for coming to this conclusion.

You imply that my vote is opportunistic. Which means I'm taking advantage of the fact that others are voting you, correct? Now, if we use this logic, there are only 2 other people that are voting you. One being Maria and the other being Josh. Since you decided to post this now, it means I'm taking advantage of Josh voting you. As you can see from this post, I voted you way before he did.

I didn't know some many people were into pokemon here, I'm excited for the new gen nerfs and buffs. Either way, Josh who would you say you TR and scumread the most. Top 2 for both

Myk gamma

Idk town

Is it possible that I could talk you into voting Gamma instead here?

I was trying to get him to vote you, and was probably the reason that he eventually flipped onto you. In the process of trying to get you lynched, I noticed that something was off about maria, which I made in a long post here.

Yo Gerry you keep tip toeing around voting me please either put your money where your mouth is and vote me or do something useful.

This is what I mean by posturing.

1.) You see that I'm voting Gamma

2.) Acknowledge i'm voting Gamma

3.) Say my scumhunting is bad

4.) Quote a post of me asking Josh to lynch Gamma acting surprised.

5.) deflect the fact that I am asking you why you'd say my scumhunting was bad when you knew I was voting your scumread

6.) Act like I'm not doing anything useful when you just admitted that you were happy that I was trying to get your read lynched.

7.) Decide to not answer the questions and then get defensive when pushed on the reasonable questions.

These sequence of events show that either your acting scatterbrained right now, or the fact that you are falsifying reads and are contradicting yourself.

Now, this process shows that while I was voting you, I ended up switching my vote to the person that was voting you as well, because of something I felt could be off about their fos about you. Now, Gamma. I want you to answer me this. If you claim that I was being opportunistic on the vote that I ended up influencing on, what was the reason for me to question Maria in her motives that led up to her questioning of my vote on you? Furthermore, I would like you to explain how come you didn't seem to think Josh was the one being opportunistic, as he was the one who originally switched his vote after the confrontation between Maria and I on our vote on you.

Gamma, now that you have read this, there is no way that you can possibly believe that I was trying to take advantage of the fact that the person who I was trying to get to vote you, voted you. As I was the reason he most likely decided to switch anyway. It is also key to point out that Josh said he would vote you if there was more than 2 people voting you, he'd switch his vote to you. Which in turn, I ended up unvoting, leaving one vote on you. He then seemed to contradict himself and vote you regardless of his past motion. How come you did not find this suspect coming from him? It seemed to fly over your head, and you seemingly decided to target me instead.

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christ, put giga's list upside down and you come scarily close to mine.

Are you implying you have me as mafia? Or am I mistaken. This should be humorous.

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Now more than ever am I certain Gamma is mafia sided. He couldn't even formulate a response when I engaged him. He decided it was best to just unvote and to say "his response to my vote was ok"

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I would appreciate it if you all voted for Gamma as he is scum-aligned. I think that I liked ssb reaction to being on L-1. That feels like town to me. I am shocked that more people are not unvoting. Which make me ponder if there is more than 1 mafia on that bandwagon.

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Transcend, I feel like you are defending Gamma for little to no reason. Can you go more in depth about the townread? If Gamma flips an important Mafia Power Role, then I will be more inclined to lynch you tomorrow if you cannot explain.

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Can you vote Gamma please.

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Vote Gamma, he is mafia. Look at how hard it is to get him lynched when his content was not any good at all. I'm starting to believe Transcend is the partner.

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ssbm, if you're not already, could you please place your vote on Gamma.

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wooooo. i should have just continued tunneling maria when i knew she was contradicting herself. sorry gamma at least i softed PR enough to be killed as VT

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wooooo. i should have just continued tunneling maria when i knew she was contradicting herself. sorry gamma at least i softed PR enough to be killed as VT

do you always get killed n1

fear kills

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kraska mvp tho