Large Normal 197: Wordplay Mafia OVER

[Gear]

I think my interactions with transcend should point to us not being buddies, but I don't really mind people being suspicious of me. Since I protected him, while being suspicious of him.

[Gear]

I'm sure that I don't want to lynch
dreamers
Camelot
Dunnstral
Bins
Gerry
Aristo

But I can understand how people are reading Gerry as scum, since he and transcend both bussed each other while voting others.



7. BigYoshiFan
10. Nahdia
14. PeregrineV

I'll figure out who I want to vote later today.

[Road Kamelot]

HEY GUYS. SORRY FOR TUNNELING MAF. IDK WHAT I WAS THINKING. GOSH. NEXT TIME I'LL TRY TO BE LESS MISGUIDED BY NOT TUNNELING MAF

Lol

I'm sure that I don't want to lynch
dreamers
Camelot
Dunnstral
Bins
Gerry
Aristo

But I can understand how people are reading Gerry as scum, since he and transcend both bussed each other while voting others.



7. BigYoshiFan
10. Nahdia
14. PeregrineV

I'll figure out who I want to vote later today.

Dude the one w the biggest chance of flipping scum there is Nahdia and im not even sure theyre scum
Granted i COULD be wrong on Yoshis performance but if pere is scum ill eat my socks

[Nahdia]

go to bed

[Road Kamelot]

go to bed

I can never go to bed
You go to bed

[Nahdia]

i dont have a test

[Errantparabola]

Yeah Gear, youre good. I should have noticed your weekend VLA in your sig.
In future games I'll ask that players inform me of regular VLAs.

also I have a test and i'm still awake too :<

[drealmerz7]

why do you think nahdia is likely to flip scum?

it seems like she's actually putting some effort in to scum-hunting

how is PV definitely not scum for you? I'm not saying he is, but, his efforts seem lacking and while I'd been tring him all game, I still don't get a good feeling from him.

RK you are my strongest tr but I don't get either of these logics

and yeah, gears, this game has been bunked since D1, do your best to help figure it as you can

[drealmerz7]

ugh, this is giving me anxiety...the waffle on gerry is ginormous, tis why I want meta feedback on him

now I'm reading it frustrated scum through and through

more people need to play!

I hope there is progress after I get home from work, if not, I'm kicking some butts!

[drealmerz7]

EBWOP 'why do you think nahdia is most likely to flip scum from that group of gears'?' - wasn't trying to misrep you

[PeregrineV]

Explain to my thick skull the benefit to the scumteam of scum-Dunn hard-bussing claiming guilty on Transcend to lead to his quick-lynch, when previously the highest Transcend wagon was 4 votes.

I thought it was obvious. The benefit is towncred.

Who knows what goes on with transcend,, I see him likely as the type of player who is like "fuck this game, bus me, let's do it this way and we'll be sure the win!" Or a dozen other things (disagreements among scum-buddies where 1 just wants to drop out but doesn't want replaced/mod-killed, loss of WIM because his friend GE left the game, if you can't imagine it being possible, you aren't using your imagination.)

I'm trying to reconcile all I see, it's bothering me. Killing dunnstral helps clear it.

ohfuck I just had a thought...motherfuck...multiball? I'm not ready to go there yet, but it could explain a few things now that I think about it.

Show me a game or 2 where it happened before, and I might buy it.

Bussing is one thing, it does happen.
Claiming guilty on a scumbuddy with no history of being the day's lynch? No so much.

[PeregrineV]

Why can't I seem to wrap my head around this...

Explain to my thick skull the benefit to the scumteam of scum-Dunn hard-bussing claiming guilty on Transcend to lead to his quick-lynch, when previously the highest Transcend wagon was 4 votes.

i KNOW someone answered this and it was basically my answer but
towncred yo

Transcend wasnt playing the long game he basically admitted it himself after he was caught when he said his normal scum game wasnt like this
Im 100% sure he was bussed
And this was after Transcend had successfully played a part in mislynching two town
Players like that dont last long so there was no downside to scum deciding to bus
i dont rly wanna lynch dreal bc as scum his push is stupid and dangerous and attention-seeking
And i kinda see the logic behind it
But lynching Dunn today is dumb lol

Anything he said after he was caught can be ignored.

Who bussed him?

Votecount 3.3 FINAL

To celebrate the coming of Aristophanes:

That shirt makes you look like a total Doric.
Calm down, I'm only wearing it Ionically.

Transcend

(7 - LYNCH): gerryoat, drealmerz7, SpyreX, Nahdia, Transcend, BigYoshiFan, Bins

Not Voting

(5): Road Kamelot, Aristophanes, Gear, PeregrineV, Dunnstral

[PeregrineV]

Hold on i got this game mixed up w something.
There should be like... ~3 scum left ya? This is our last mislynch?

16 players usually means 4 scum.

We are at 7:3 right now.

[drealmerz7]

Who bussed him?

yep, that's what we're trying to figure out

what is your opinion on likely bussers? rather than just a paste of a post hopefully everyone read (and I had already re-highlighted in light of the question)

[PeregrineV]

Kinda agreeing with the sentiment that dreal's latest Bant makes no sense as scum. The frustration over not being townread for punishing Transcend feels genuine but it could just be genuine frustration that a buss didn't earn him any points I'm picking up on.

You have 2 sentences that seem to be talking about the same person, but they are not.

[PeregrineV]

VOTE: unvote

seriously I can't read gerry at all

super scummy that seems totally misguided town

I'ma not vote until some others have checked in and provided some views

I would like him to develop some more tunnels views now that transcend is gone.

[PeregrineV]

thanks!!! weeee!!!

need 5 inactives to get off their asses and play (less-so for PV since he at least appeared to attempt to do something)

I'm doing a shit-ton of stuff.

Are you possibly not reading or not understanding my posts?

[PeregrineV]

also to think that only a few d1 posts voting transcend like "ya so he's scum" and doing a "reaction test" on his is enough to clear is lol

i play with transcend a lot. He was acting weird so I pushed on it. Thus why I am town and he tried to get me lynched. I don't get how you can get a garbage read like me and him partners when we both pushed on each other.

VOTE: unvote

seriously I can't read gerry at all

super scummy that seems totally misguided town

I'ma not vote until some others have checked in and provided some views

LMAO MISGUIDED TOWN

i didnt know tunneling maf made me misguided

HEY GUYS. SORRY FOR TUNNELING MAF. IDK WHAT I WAS THINKING. GOSH. NEXT TIME I'LL TRY TO BE LESS MISGUIDED BY NOT TUNNELING MAF

What have you done for us lately?

[PeregrineV]

why do you think nahdia is likely to flip scum?

it seems like she's actually putting some effort in to scum-hunting

Your first mention of Nahdia in 72 pages. To complement her in her scumhutning, where she has you pegged as scum for 3+ days

Spoiler: Early Nahdia

page 7
{Dunnstral}
{Transcend}
{Road Kamelot, SpyreX, drealmerz7, BigYoshiFan}
{PeregrineV, Gear}
{gerryoat}

It really is liberating knowing I'll never have to wear clothes again

page 14
{Dunnstral}
{Transcend, MariaR}
{Road Kamelot, SpyreX, BigYoshiFan, Bins}
{PeregrineV, Gear, Gamma Emerald}
{drealmerz7}
{gerryoat}

It really is liberating knowing I'll never have to wear clothes again

end of d1

{Dunnstral}
{Transcend}
{Road Kamelot, SpyreX, Bins, MariaR}
{Gear, PeregrineV}
{BigYoshiFan}
{drealmerz7}
{gerryoat, Gamma Emerald}

drealmerz7 still just doesn't feel genuine to me at all.

And 1607 seems like a total flip.

Spoiler: Current Nahdia

VOTE: dunnstral

come with me if you want to live

is this a serious vote

Why are you so sure dreal is mafia?

I wanna say the fact that dreal is taking this position is town-indicative but there's so much he's ignoring that's so blatant I kind of think he's just bullshitting crazy reads to try to look like bad town.

psa: gears hasn't posted in 9 and a half days.

Stuff like this bugs me. Even worse than you wanting to lynch Dunn.

[Nahdia]

And 1607 seems like a total flip.

Me questioning someone else's certainty has nothing to do with my own position.

[PeregrineV]

Who bussed him?

yep, that's what we're trying to figure out

what is your opinion on likely bussers? rather than just a paste of a post hopefully everyone read (and I had already re-highlighted in light of the question)

He basically had a guilty claim on him. Why would anyone stay off the wagon, or not want to be csaught on it?

Votecount 3.3 FINAL

To celebrate the coming of Aristophanes:

That shirt makes you look like a total Doric.
Calm down, I'm only wearing it Ionically.

Transcend

(7 - LYNCH): gerryoat, drealmerz7, SpyreX, Nahdia, Transcend, BigYoshiFan, Bins

Not Voting

(5): Road Kamelot, Aristophanes, Gear, PeregrineV, Dunnstral

As I've already stated, the Bins hammer sucked and looked scummy.

[drealmerz7]

I didn't compliment her scum-hunting. I certainly didn't complement it. I said it SEEMS like she's putting SOME effort to it, and in relativity to the rest of most of the group, it's something - but even more to the point, all I was doing was asking someone to elaborate their reasoning for putting nahdia where they did, with a little perspective of my own for impetus of some back and forth about it.

What bugs you exactly?

You're doing shit-tons? I don't see much of anything useful from you.

[drealmerz7]

why does it suck? why does it look scummy? especially since you say "Why would anyone stay off the wagon, or not want to be csaught on it?"

[PeregrineV]

And 1607 seems like a total flip.

Me questioning someone else's certainty has nothing to do with my own position.

You did a complete 180. Do you not want me to point it out?

In addition, you thought drealmerz was bussing transcend as late as 1583 (8 pages ago).

You are now voting Gear, who was up for replacement and less scummy (according to you) than drealmerz.

I did not find your play or your iso "chock full of scumhunting goodness".

So when you start questioning someone else's scumread on drealmerz all of a sudden, and decide he's not scum anymore, it's gotta be asked about.

[Nahdia]

I'll make one more effort to explain this. I have a lot of work to do today though so I can't sit around and go through it 10 times.

1587 I'm trying to understand what dreal is doing.
1667 is where my read on dreal shifts, because he was doing something I see 0 scum motivation to do.
1607

has nothing whatsoever to do with my read on dreal. I'm questioning

Gerry

, not telling him he's wrong, but forcing him to explain himself because his language seemed very certain.