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[Foxbird]

Votecount 2.14

Saru

(2) - aronagrundy, ironstove

Thor665

(2) - karnos, Fire Assassin

LmkGuy

(1) - Lowell

Lowell

(2) - Saru, LmkGuy

bji

(3) - Nero Cain, Thor665, PenguinPower

Nero Cain

(1) - bji

Not Voting

(0) - No one!

With

11

players eligible to vote, it’s

6

to lynch!

Day 2 will end in

(expired on 2016-11-11 12:47:28).

Mod Notes:

POST-BLIZZCON OPENING CEREMONY HYPE

Searching a replacement for LmkGuy.

[Thor665]

It was super effective.

[Nero Cain]

Did you just claim you aren't town? LOL.

How can you think that without voting me? So fake

[Lowell]

Just a reminder that saru is still scum. Also saru's latest interaction with aron looks like a distancing ploy. Still, lmk first.

[Nero Cain]

What do you think of BJ?

[Lowell]

I liked his entry, he brought some good energy, particularly given Alpaca felt like such a null.

But that could just be activity bias. I've replaced in mid-game before and gotten town points bc by that point various rivalries have formed. So I'm not completely townreading him yet.

tl;dr-- basically looks town.

[Saru]

Just a reminder that saru is still scum. Also saru's latest interaction with aron looks like a distancing ploy. Still, lmk first.

I think that's like the fourth time you've refused to address my post talking about why your case is bollocks. Probably because you can't refute it.

Make a bad case, ignore response to it, and lurk 24/7. Yeah, no way you're not scum.

Lynch this already.

[Lowell]

Remind me, I'm a slow reader.

[Saru]

Remind me, I'm a slow reader.

I'm sure you can read at a fine pace. You didn't have that issue in our last game together.

What's your response to 811? You admitted you have no case on me, but just a "feeling" in 809 in regards to the malp wagon, just for context.

[aronagrundy]

@lowell: not going to what for lmk's replacement?

@iron: can you clarify your vote on saru? As of now it's just us voting him, but you've consistently scumread me. Why vote saru with me?

[ironstove]

i gave up

[Fire Assassin]

I don't know what to say about this game right now.

[Thor665]

Then sheep me for a while.
Your vote on me is unsupported, and bjj looks like scum - it will be super exciting, we could force a claim, maybe lynch him, live the dream, get all the marbles, it would be lovely.
We could also flip on Karnos if you prefer, he is being silly scummy and you're blind if you can't see it.

[Nero Cain]

Why does Bj look like scum?

[Fire Assassin]

Why does Bj look like scum?

[ironstove]

BTW fire, do you have any report or clear to provide?

[Thor665]

Why does Bj look like scum?

Utter lack of logic used to sheep onto big wagons paired with retaliatory attacks and votes.

[Thor665]

BTW fire, do you have any report or clear to provide?

Maybe you should ISO him?

[ironstove]

that would require me to put more than 1% effort into this game.

[Thor665]

Well, he's answered that question already.
Discused a theory read based on the question.
And had some people respond to the question.

tl:dr - because you're clearly not reading; he has no results to claim.

Please replace out?

[Foxbird]

Oh boy.

Prodding the following players:
- aronagrundy
- Saru
- Lowell
- karnos
- bji
- PenguinPower

Due to the, uh, amount of prods and some other factors, these won't count as "official" prods.

[Fire Assassin]

BTW fire, do you have any report or clear to provide?

No, I gave the info I have to start day. There is role blocker present among scum.

[Thor665]

Due to the, uh, amount of prods and some other factors, these won't count as "official" prods.

@FA - why are you voting me again? Could you give me a quick blurb thought on bjj and Karnos? I'd love to lynch one of them, and would love you to be voting there rather than on me.

[Lowell]

Responding to unofficial prod.

@mod

, FYI, I normally don't have internet access on weekends. I'll do my best to check in, but I'd appreciate some flexibility on this.

To answer your second question: yes, I live in 1995.

[Lowell]

VOTE: saru

I don't have a strong case-based reason here, but I do have a strong feeling that the way that day ended was no accident. I recall putting saru to L-1 to avoid a no lynch, then coming back to find some random rube dead.

Oh god, if this isn't a scum vote...

Atleast you admit you don't have a case. But your feelings are unfounded and it's a bit strange how you went from calling me a "lurker null read"(which makes no sense) to voting me because my wagon dissipated. What happened to the 3 or 4 other lynches you mentioned in 681. Why not talk about them, or do they not exist?

Either you're ignoring the fact that I had claimed when people started to unvote(which would imply they believed the claim or felt comfortable with it) or you're ignoring the fact that votes shifted to malp quickly because a) he was an easy target to wagon on because b) there was almost no time left in the day, even after an extension and because c) he wasn't around to defend himself. Neither would suggest my wagon falling apart because I'm scum, as you seem to imply. In fact, IME, most scum wagons in the early-game fall apart before a claim, rather than after. Scum don't want to be pinned into a claim so early in the game and so most scum partners would try to derail it halfway through, even subtly. Basically no one in the game was trying to actively or subtly derail my wagon D1.

I saw the claim, but I don't understand what you think it means. You're saying your VT claim is so airtight that everyone just up and decided you must be town? To your points, I would say: (a) you were an even EASIER wagon since you were almost dead and claimed VT, (b) why move from a VT claim to an unknown lurker at the last minute?, and (c) who would have it in their interest to move to an unknown lurker over you (who can defend himself, as you say) at the last minute if you're town?

Basically, I don't see how the following narrative: "I almost got lynched right at deadline, claimed VT, then a powerwagon instantly formed on a lurker who can't defend himself" absolves you.