The real folk blues [Canceled]

mhsmith0 · Post Post #4275 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:48 pm

In post 4273, PJ. wrote:Because TAM is scum and I feel that if we lynch Nos here that the town will be in an irreparable hole.

irreperable hole? on a day 2 lynch?

mhsmith0 · Post Post #4276 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:49 pm

like, obviously we want to lynch scum, but that seems weirdly over-done for a situation where I would presume it's gonna take at least around half of the days of the game being ML's for us to lose

PJ. · Post Post #4277 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:57 pm

The common accepted math right now is 5 5 1 17, right. Mislynch + 3 more town kills has us at 5 5 1 13. I don't like those odds. And I don't want to hope for cross kills.

PJ. · Post Post #4278 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:00 pm

On top of that, it'd be a power lynch and a lurker lynch.town would down to 56% of the game, with super limited info. That's a p big fucking hole, if we're looking at the worst case.

PJ. · Post Post #4279 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:01 pm

Like if the town doesn't get it's shit together by tomorrow, it's gonna turn into fucking battleship.

PJ. · Post Post #4280 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:09 pm

Like if we get 4 shot again today, we are literally a mathblade meltdown away from a possible 11 to 9 situation.

Aristophanes · Post Post #4281 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:11 pm

Nut TAM isn't scum. If they are the mislynch, we're in the same shitty slit.

Aristophanes · Post Post #4282 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:11 pm

Slit = spot

Wtf phlne

PJ. · Post Post #4283 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:18 pm

But TAM at least is a real lynch. Nos is a shitty lurker lynch. He has basically no interactions to parce. Nothing of note for tomorrow. Everyone on the wagon is scum, self-preservation, bad town, and/or spyrex, who just wants to see the world burn.

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #4284 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:27 pm

In post 4283, PJ. wrote:But TAM at least is a real lynch. Nos is a shitty lurker lynch. He has basically no interactions to parce. Nothing of note for tomorrow. Everyone on the wagon is scum, self-preservation, bad town, and/or spyrex, who just wants to see the world burn.

Once more, with feeling: who cares about interactions? What matters is that the person we are lynching flips scum. The Nos lynch at least makes sense versus the Skrub wagon or the current clown car wagon on me based on... what, exactly?

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #4285 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:28 pm

At the end of the day you're gonna look back and go "wow, Nacho was lynched for shitty reasons" but it's not like that's going to help you fix it and find scum, it just means you lynched me for shitty reasons.

Vedith · Post Post #4286 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:32 pm

Is Math a jester?

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #4287 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:35 pm

In post 4262, PJ. wrote:Except this is the same thing you did, you lurked for a WHILE then you came back and your whole thing was that you were in a lose-lose situation because if you stayed gone you were dodging pressure and if you came back it was lurker scum trying to avoid a lynch. Oh, and your first post in the entire game was "I don't give a fuck about this game imma quick hammer fools". So I'd say it's pot-kettle here at the very least.

I posted for the first few days. I lurked for 6 days. I want back to normal posting. The point on Nosferatu is not that he lurked period, the point is that he cares enough about the game to avoid prods and yet hasn't managed to do anything that resembles scumhunting; his pisskop read was weak and weird and his "mole + kraska" questions make no sense from town who ultimately doesn't care about the answer. I haven't been inspired by him showing up and arguing how his play is null; I don't think it looks town at all.

PJ. · Post Post #4288 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:36 pm

In post 4285, The Ascended Masters wrote:At the end of the day you're gonna look back and go "wow, Nacho was lynched for shitty reasons" but it's not like that's going to help you fix it and find scum, it just means you lynched me for shitty reasons.

But they are the same exact reasons that you're lynching nos though.

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #4289 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:37 pm

In post 4288, PJ. wrote:
In post 4285, The Ascended Masters wrote:At the end of the day you're gonna look back and go "wow, Nacho was lynched for shitty reasons" but it's not like that's going to help you fix it and find scum, it just means you lynched me for shitty reasons.
But they are the same exact reasons that you're lynching nos though.

So you're lynching me for lurking when I've done more than most players in the game. Do you know how nonsensical that is?

PJ. · Post Post #4290 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:38 pm

Only underpressure

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #4291 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:39 pm

Or are you lynching me for "not doing anything resembling scumhunting"? Because last time I checked, still been doing more of that than most players.

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #4292 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:39 pm

In post 4290, PJ. wrote:Only underpressure

I did more than you did on Day 1 when I wasn't under pressure. I did more than most players Day 1 when I wasn't under pressure.

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #4293 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:40 pm

I was busy for a week. It's not like I was posting up a storm elsewhere while lurking like crazy here.

PJ. · Post Post #4294 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:40 pm

If you want to split the difference and bus varsoon or exp, I'm cool with that. But I remain unconvinced on nos.

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #4295 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:41 pm

And I am also not lynching Nos for "only doing things under pressure", so I'm not sure where you got that impression.

PJ. · Post Post #4296 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:41 pm

I agree, he is uninterested in the game, how does that make him scum?

The Ascended Masters · Post Post #4297 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:44 pm

In post 4262, PJ. wrote:Also compare who is on the wagons. Exp, vax, Ari all kinda scummy and the guy who started the wagon is on tam's kill list.

Last time I checked, I was the one made the wagon grow, not Smith. I don't think three questionable people on a wagon mean that I am wagoning town and in general file the "look at wagon composition! you're lynching town!" since it's a biased argument feeding bias and ignores that town don't always lynch scum and scum don't always lynch town.

PJ. · Post Post #4298 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:48 pm

Except rach made the wagon grow, not you.

Cerberus v666 · Post Post #4299 (ISO) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:46 am

Panzer, did you just call me bad town?