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[LmkGuy]

Also, the site was down for me for like the past 2-3 days, am I the only person who got the downtime? I see posts that happened in the last 24 hours, so I find that really bizarre.

Nope down for me too, it just came back up for me personally. Need to refresh on what happened brb

[Foxbird]

Votecount 2.6

karnos

(1) - Thor665

Saru

(2) - aronagrundy, Lowell

Thor665

(2) - karnos, ironstove

Fire Assassin

(1) - PenguinPower

LmkGuy

(1) - Fire Assassin

Lowell

(2) - Saru, LmkGuy

Not Voting

(2) - Nero Cain, AlpacaAlpaca

With

11

players eligible to vote, it’s

6

to lynch!

Day 2 will end in

(expired on 2016-11-11 12:47:28).

Mod Notes:

The deadline has been extended by a day to account for site downtime.
This will of course also affect all prod timers.

[Fire Assassin]

Wasn't the site down for two days? I was half checking in a few times between my vla

[PenguinPower]

Yes, it was. Glad you're back. Claim.

[Foxbird]

Added another day to the deadline. Apologies.

[Fire Assassin]

Yes, it was. Glad you're back. Claim.

I though I claimed scum already?

[Lowell]

I'm back. Prodge, if that's necessary. I'd still like to see saru or lmk, but really I haven't been paying attention since the site went down. Will catch up.

[Thor665]

I'm back. Prodge, if that's necessary. I'd still like to see saru or lmk, but really I haven't been paying attention since the site went down. Will catch up.

Saru is prob town, how is he not?
Is there a case on LMK outside of the lurk?

[Nero Cain]

no unless you want to buy into the theory that he's an Alpaca buddy b/c he kinda lightheartedly embraced it and left himself some leeway to bus if needed.

[Thor665]

Is there a good argument for Alpacas scum?

[karnos]

Damned site downage combined with moving.

Why isn't Thor lynched yet?

[Thor665]

Because Aronagrundy, Lowell, Penguin, FA, Saru, and LMK are all voting elsewhere and Nero and Alpaca aren't even voting.
But you should probably repeat your brilliant case of "why isn't he lynched yet!?!" to keep selling the wagon in a totally not scum way.

[karnos]

Ok, catch up was easier than I thought.

Thor, I've given cases. You are scum though, not expecting to convince you to vote yourself, as long as the town players read and vote appropriately it's all worthwhile.

[karnos]

Saru:Thor:Nero being main scum reads prior to today.

Due to interactions, I think it's much more likely Thor is scum than Saru at this point. Scum Thor would be perfectly happy to town read Saru, knowing Saru would flip town. Scum Thor would also be happy with killing GreyICE, who was mainly pressuring Saru.

Nero is a bit odd this game. In his "suggested moves" he said to protect Thor. Why? WTF? He had literally no posts mentioning a town read or any read on Thor prior to that. Like the problem is this seems bad from any alignment. If he is town, WTF would he ask for a protect on someone with no basis- and risk of seeing Thor flip as scum due to a wrong read will make him look bad. But if Nero is scum, it creates an association with scum buddy, which might lead to both of them being sunk.

Honestly I'd be willing to lynch any of the three, but Thor makes the most sense to flip right now from my PoV. His play has been hyper-focused on me from his first post in the thread. Does town!Thor tunnel like this? I seriously no idea and no time to read through his other past games, but it doesn't seem very townie from my perspective.

[Thor665]

Due to interactions, I think it's much more likely Thor is scum than Saru at this point. Scum Thor would be perfectly happy to town read Saru, knowing Saru would flip town. Scum Thor would also be happy with killing GreyICE, who was mainly pressuring Saru.

So Saru is town who I'm buddying, and I'm killing the people who are pressuring him in order to...protect the town mislynch...

[Thor665]

Oh, and I'm bussing my buddy Nero, apparently.
Whoo-hoo.

[aronagrundy]

Prod dodge, will be down to lynch Thor if Saru isn't happening

[ironstove]

I don't have a strong town read on anyone but I'll stick with my lynch on Thor as well

[Nero Cain]

Oh, and I'm bussing my buddy Nero, apparently.
Whoo-hoo.

Since when did you scumread me?

[Nero Cain]

Is there a good argument for Alpacas scum?

not really. You can read about why I was voting him d1 in my 93. He a lurksack and just

there.

Hie says he's busy with midterms and ok sure. Do you think if Alpaca is scum his scumbuddies would fight against his wagon or lend support?

[Thor665]

Oh, and I'm bussing my buddy Nero, apparently.
Whoo-hoo.

Since when did you scumread me?

I don't - please note the post before I started posting wherein Karnos claims that's what I'm doing.

Is there a good argument for Alpacas scum?

not really. You can read about why I was voting him d1 in my 93. He a lurksack and just

there.

Hie says he's busy with midterms and ok sure. Do you think if Alpaca is scum his scumbuddies would fight against his wagon or lend support?

Tends to depend more on the partner than on Alpaca in my experience.
I don't really bus because I think bussing is dumb scum play - so if Alpaca was my buddy I wouldn't bus him, same as if someone really active and productive were my buddy.
Generally the same would go for someone like, Titus.
Meanwhile there's folks like RC who would probably bus a scumbuddy who had been mechanically declared conf. town.

In a very vague sense, if he's scum, probably a scum is bussing him - there usually is one.

[LmkGuy]

Is there a good argument for Alpacas scum?

I am also interested in this. Since my Lowel vote seems to be going no where, Ima look into this

[LmkGuy]

After a quick scan of Alpaca's ISO there isn't too much to go off. He was reasonably active at the start of the game, but dies off (presumably due to mid terms). He really hasn't posted too much, but he asks a lot of questions, without answering much himself, and also gives a lot of blanket statements.

I'm hesitant to call this scummy behaviour, but it does tend to lean that way imo. I've decided his early game play is enough to carry him through for now. It's hard to get a full read on him as he hasn't really been posting a lot of content since he started mid terms. Maybe when he gets back and starts posting I will reconsider a vote, based on his play.

[LmkGuy]

So after reading up I have to say I think Lmk is scum, he can sir back and watch the theatre of others sink each other while he kicks back and doesnt do anything

VOTE: Lmk

Pedit: Lowell what do you think of the people saying yout 180 was trash

Ok, catch up was easier than I thought.

Thor, I've given cases. You are scum though, not expecting to convince you to vote yourself, as long as the town players read and vote appropriately it's all worthwhile.

I've looked through your ISO, and your arguments against him are really spread out and not too easy to follow. I would greatly appreciate if you could give a post with all your thoughts about scum!thor. If you really want him lynched, I don't see why this would be a problem

[LmkGuy]

EBWOP: Not sure why that first quote (from alpaca) is there, pls ignore.