The real folk blues [Canceled]

[Frozen Angel]

Spike : Is it me, or did that not make any sense?

Vote Count 2.34

Nosferatu (10): mhsmith0 , The Ascended Masters , SpyreX , RachMarie , Vaxkiller , Cerberus v666 , Aristophanes , Expedience , PeregrineV , davesaz
The Ascended Masters (8): Nero Cain , Vedith , SirCakez , Panzerjager , Skrub , DiamondSentinel , Albert B. Rampage , pisskop
Skrub (4): Nosferatu , Mirhawk , randomidget , kraska77
kraska77 (3): MathBlade , Varsoon , Radical Rat
Expedience (1): Klingoncelt
RachMarie (1): Killthestory

Not Voting (1): Drixx

With 28 players alive it takes 15 votes to lynch.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2016-11-04 21:10:00)

[Nero Cain]

can we get a VC?

[mhsmith0]

While not an expert at reading Math in particular, her blowup over this reminds me a lot of her blowup over "normal" roles in Wake's games that turned out to only sort of debatably being normal, with my needing to very explicitly point out that I hadn't reviewed it for normalcy so it totally could have been something non-normal (and then A50 thinking that somehow it was my idea to have the role function that way, because I'd totally override the mod's design in order to explicitly insert a non-normal function into a game he said was normalish)

[MathBlade]

I am phone posting here. I may have time to go in depth tomorow. Here is the Skrub stuff I noticed.

I have skimmed your posts and got a scumread. By analysing I mean analysing in more depth. Notice I said "analyse Skrub

more

".
It is better than nothing as voting a scumread is better than not voting at all. I will wait for my other head's opinion on the matter. Your post is a very weak rebuttal.

~Maker

You gave a weak post without any real content. It didn't give me much to reply to. What exactly did you scum read in my posts?

Lots of posts explaining why Skrub was going things. If Skrub was scum they wouldn't have done that. They wouldn't have been eager to antagonize and make suggestions. Combined with my sentiments earlier Skrub is town.

It was more gut from your tone from just skimming your posts. Like I said, I will go into more detail when I explain in depth.

Skrub's vote on MoZ is so bad

What's bad about it?

Just seemed to me like you saw the wagon building up on you and just voted for the brand new counterwagon cuz you were in a shitty spot.


Why do you think SirCakez is scum

Nah, that's what maker did. I'll go in depth on my Cakez read later

I'll go in depth on my Skrub read later.

In all honesty, you accuse me of doing a lot of things that you do yourself. Your posts seem very like you voted the most popular wagon and attempted a justification. Vifam picked up on it and you are now accusing me.
At best, you are no better than me.

At worst, this is outright hypocrisy.

If something is scummy when I do it, it's scummy when you do it. You are not somehow exempt from being scumread by your own tells.

~Maker

I didn't vote you because you were a popular wagon though. I voted you because your posts are scummy as hell. So its not outright hypocrisy, its me calling you out on bullshit. And I like how you admitted in the next sentence that you only voted me because I'm a popular wagon and that you tried to justify it. Thanks for letting us all know that you don't really have a scum read on me.

[MathBlade]

Phone borked my post:

Lots of posts explaining why Skrub was going things. If Skrub was scum they wouldn't have done that. They wouldn't have been eager to antagonize and make suggestions. Combined with my sentiments earlier Skrub is town.

[MathBlade]

Vote Kraska

Vote Kraska.

why?
I'll check back for your answer tomorrow if I remember btw.

Nos is town. Scum Nos who I have worked with would never be this blatantly lazy.

Are you sure? Nos was the epitome of laziness in Gistou.

On the contrary. He was limited posting but not lazy. He highlighted a guilty in the early game and had limited posting. Limited posting is not laziness. He was also cult and trying to fly under the radar.

As any alignment Nos limits posting. The trick is to find out why.

[Nero Cain]

Good, i think the NoS wagon is shit to. I still think TAM is scum but I'd be willing to do both RMs (maybe Rach the most) and Exp.

[MathBlade]

I hate all of these wagons.

I am going to bed will reread more tomorrow.

For now gut vote

VOTE: Nero Cain

[SpyreX]

Nero? Woooosh

[SpyreX]

Extended la until sat but I'll keep an eye out

[PJ.]

The Nope is for the list of 10.

I do not lynch anyone that is not in my top 5 scumreads.

If y'all don't want to lynch in my top 5 or make an argument that causes my top 5 to change I don't see a reason to move my vote.

You realize this is anti-town, right?

I think it is anti town to not lynch in your top scumreads when there is a shit ton of time left.
You want me to vote your wagon you have to convince me.
That is how Mafia works.

If everyone played like this and was obstinate as you, town would never lynch anyone and scum would win every game. Anti-town

[PJ.]

stop speccing please.

We have, for one, a claimed poison doc. poison is a belated kill right?

I forgot who claimed poison doc, who was it?

[PJ.]

what does town who don't give a fuck do?

Flake out, usually.

Except this is the same thing you did, you lurked for a WHILE then you came back and your whole thing was that you were in a lose-lose situation because if you stayed gone you were dodging pressure and if you came back it was lurker scum trying to avoid a lynch. Oh, and your first post in the entire game was "I don't give a fuck about this game imma quick hammer fools". So I'd say it's pot-kettle here at the very least.

Someone tell me why lynching a guy with no content is better than lynching a guy who has significantly more interaction with key scummy players in this game, when both ate up for the same thing?

Also compare who is on the wagons. Exp, vax, Ari all kinda scummy and the guy who started the wagon is on tam's kill list.

This is ridiculous guys, I understand nacho has a reputation for being a good player(an earned one, undoubtedly) and the town wants to keep good players, but yo, good players get scum pms sometimes too. There is more to be gained here taking out nacho then leaving him alive and I think the town can vig a few of the deep lurker scum like Nosferatu instead of letting TAM off the hook here with a really scummy power wagon on a completely random lurker.

Math, do me, your friendly neighbor, a favor here. The kraska dealie can fall in time. Right now, we need flexibility because the town is about to lose a slippery scum here if we don't unite.

[PJ.]

I still have 10 pages to read, fuck this, fuck you, it's fucking halloween, you fucks. Fuck

[PJ.]

There is no way an experienced player like Kraska would forget to claim PGO.

I'm an experienced player, I probably wouldn't have claimed pgo day 1.

[mhsmith0]

There is no way an experienced player like Kraska would forget to claim PGO.

I'm an experienced player, I probably wouldn't have claimed pgo day 1.

In a large theme that could very well be something close to role madness with a bunch of visiting town roles? Like, I can get the idea that kraska simply screwed up, but I don't see how not claiming that in this kind of game is any kind of good play.

[PJ.]

DS i understand i believe in the me that believes in you

Pedit: honestly, because I legit was not aware that was the accepted meta, I have very little experience with that role in particular despite being an experienced player. I probably would not have claimed.

[PJ.]

I think mirhawk or panzer said ds

Me mirhawk math davesaz.

[PJ.]

I said 10 pages of useless right? Just wanna see how close i get

Real close but I posted =[

[Aristophanes]

Alright, 15 pages appeared since my last check. Not gonna read them right now. Can we lynch Nos and move on now?

[PJ.]

I give up, I will work on other town reads, and see if we can come up with a consensus and get a lynch before deadline.

I have wasted too much time and energy on this, instead of reading through the ISOs like I had planned.

Bus nacho, it's easy.

[PJ.]

Alright, 15 pages appeared since my last check. Not gonna read them right now. Can we lynch Nos and move on now?

No

[Aristophanes]

Why must you air this difficult, Panzer!?

[PJ.]

Because TAM is scum and I feel that if we lynch Nos here that the town will be in an irreparable hole.

[Aristophanes]

Because TAM is scum and I feel that if we lynch Nos here that the town will be in an irreparable hole.

On D2??

And I like TAM as town, so I disagree here. I'd rather see a Nos/Skrub wagon go through.